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Pokémon Go |OT 3| "No Officer, I'm a Passenger"

robochimp

Member
When's that? Is he up next or after moltres?

I'm wondering bc I'm saving all my 10km eggs for double xp, candy and stardust.

Zapdos starts August 7th, we had been getting events about every two weeks. I'm just guessing I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see an event until after the first legendary rotation.
 
An update on the upcoming Pokémon GO Safari Zone Events in Europe

Trainers,

In order to guarantee the best possible gameplay experience for European Trainers, we have decided to postpone the events in Europe scheduled for August 5 (Copenhagen and Prague) and August 12 (Stockholm and Amsterdam) until a date later in the Fall. No other scheduled events are affected including the event scheduled for Yokohama, Japan on August 14 and the events scheduled for September 16 in France, Spain, and Germany.

We apologize for any inconvenience and hope you understand that our priority is to ensure a great experience for Pokémon GO Trainers in Europe and around the world. Trainers that might have questions regarding the Safari Zone events should visit the help center.

As a special surprise, we understand that some Pokémon that are rarely seen in Europe will be appearing soon in certain European cities for a brief time. Keep your eyes peeled!

Stay tuned for more information, we will update you as soon as we have the new dates.

Sincerely,
—The Pokémon GO team

Guess who had bought flights and hotel for Amsterdam! Tbf its not like there isn't much to do over there and I'm sure these regionals will be around that time. Not too salty, I just need a good Amsterdam tracker.
 

Rygar 8 Bit

Jaguar 64-bit
My pokedex is at 229 caught. Hows everyone else doing?

232 only missing porygon 2 just need the upgrade item, unown and artacuno

my seen is 240


edit: also really wish teir 4 and 5 raids were summonable by players instead of random spawns sort of like a lure for stops you would drop the summon item on the gym and spawn a raid on it would really solve the spread out player base and allow the community to come together and make their own events
 

Firemind

Member
My Valor neighbourhood will not like this new update lol

Any recommendations for good monsters to use against Lugia?
Tyranitar basically. Lugia can also have Hydro Pump, so Gyarados with double dark moves are fine to use too since it resists water and Tyranitar doesn't. Golem, Lapras and Cloyster are fine too. And Houndoom if you happen to have a high cp one. And Articuno if you caught some.
 
My pokedex is at 229 caught. Hows everyone else doing?
235 caught, 240 seen. I only need 2 more Pokémon, excluding the original 3 non-North American region exclusives (I caught Heracross and Corsola on a trip to Florida): Forretress and Cleffa. But I have the candies to get Forretress whenever I want, so effectively I only need Cleffa.

I'll evolve my Pineco into Forretress when I either 1) get a better one (the only one I ever caught sucks and I've never hatched one) or 2) hatch a Cleffa. If the latter ever happens it would be a "fuck it, completion time!" moment, haha.

But seriously, it's been over 7 months since it was introduced, I'm apparently never hatching Cleffa lol.
 

zulux21

Member
Guess who had bought flights and hotel for Amsterdam! Tbf its not like there isn't much to do over there and I'm sure these regionals will be around that time. Not too salty, I just need a good Amsterdam tracker.

while I don't really feel the chicago pokemon go fest has much grounds for a lawsuit given they eventually mostly turned it into a fine event from what I have heard.

that move, even with intentions to make it better, no doubt will land them another lawsuit as a 6 day warning is not enough and many people may not be able to cancel to change their plans without losing or needing to spend more money.
 

GulAtiCa

Member
When's that? Is he up next or after moltres?

I'm wondering bc I'm saving all my 10km eggs for double xp, candy and stardust.
You already have a bunch of 10k eggs after 1 day? Lol

Anyways, go hatch them. They won't do this special with all active for a long time again. And just doing another 2x event will be a little while. So at this point, pointless to hold onto those eggs and not hatch them all.
 
I'm at 233 caught 238 seen.

Need a god damn sun stone to evolve a Sunflora, and have enough candy to evolve Blissey but holding out for a good Chansey.
Then an Articuno and I'm done wth the Euro Dex.
 
You already have a bunch of 10k eggs after 1 day? Lol

Anyways, go hatch them. They won't do this special with all active for a long time again. And just doing another 2x event will be a little while. So at this point, pointless to hold onto those eggs and not hatch them all.
OH no I only have 1. Was just gonna start stocking up. But yeah I'll just start using them.
 

Joni

Member
Had a great birthday today, went out playing Pokémon GO with a friend - who very likely forgot it was my birthday. We did four Articuno raids and a Tyrannitar raid. Found some nice players everywhere, even managed to split up into 3 20-person groups at one. Friend had bad luck, didn't catch anything, but I managed two Articuno and a Tyrannitar. I'll give those to him when we have trading.

It cost me a lot of potions, but it gave me 4 Fast TM, 3 Charge TM and 51 Rare Candy. Now comes the process on deciding. Do they go to Articuno or the level 20 Tyrannitar? Don't have Stardust so it is not an important decision until I run out of space.
 

t26

Member
228/238

Other than the region exclusives, I have the items and candies to evolve everything. Just trying to get a high IV version first. The only one I am missing is Tyrogue.
 

Busaiku

Member
226 with 234 seen.
I have enough candy for a Pupitar and Larvitar, but I only have 2 Larvitar. Waiting on a 3rd one and some more candy so I can have all 3 (for living Pokédex).
Have enough for Scizor and Politoed as well, but I need the items.
 

border

Member
SPOILER: Your Pokemon's IV Doesn't Really Matter

Someone on Reddit went ahead and proved what I have long contended -- obsessing over IV is pointless. Ultimately your IV makes very little difference in terms of damage output, damage received, or total HP.

As far as I can tell, the IV obsession is just a relic of the hyper-competitive scene in the Gameboy/DS games where everyone was trying to min-max to ridiculous extremes. Combat and damage formulas in Pokemon Go however do not really bear out much difference as IV increases though.

Obviously, evolve and power-up the best Pokemon you can find......but if you have a 60-70% Mareep, there's really not much point in waiting around for one with better IVs. Don't delay upgrades and evolves just for the sake of IV.

The larger issue is that it's probably smarter at this point to prioritize a Pokemon's level when deciding what to evolve. If you have a Level 16 Eevee that has 100% IVs and a Level 27 Eevee with 75% IV, it's probably smarter to evolve the Level 27. If you evolve the 16, you will have to spend 60,000 dust just to make it marginally better than the one that was already 27.
 

c-murph

Member
SPOILER: Your Pokemon's IV Doesn't Really Matter

Someone on Reddit went ahead and proved what I have long contended -- obsessing over IV is pointless. Ultimately your IV makes very little difference in terms of damage output, damage received, or total HP.

As far as I can tell, the IV obsession is just a relic of the hyper-competitive scene in the Gameboy/DS games where everyone was trying to min-max to ridiculous extremes. Combat and damage formulas in Pokemon Go however do not really bear out much difference as IV increases though.

Obviously, evolve and power-up the best Pokemon you can find......but if you have a 60-70% Mareep, there's really not much point in waiting around for one with better IVs. Don't delay upgrades and evolves just for the sake of IV.

The larger issue is that it's probably smarter at this point to prioritize a Pokemon's level when deciding what to evolve. If you have a Level 16 Eevee that has 100% IVs and a Level 27 Eevee with 75% IV, it's probably smarter to evolve the Level 27. If you evolve the 16, you will have to spend 60,000 dust just to make it marginally better than the one that was already 27.

Doesn't matter now but when they introduce actual fighting into the game and rework the system... Most definitely will matter.
 

Firemind

Member
Attack stat is the only stat that matters now. Getting an extra point of damage off your basic attack and charge attack could mean the difference between succeeding or failing a raid.

Tbh before tms existed, moves were the most important factor. Now that tms exist, there's no endgame other than ivs, completing the pokedex and getting to lvl. 40. Gyms are kind of a joke.
 

border

Member
Doesn't matter now but when they introduce actual fighting into the game and rework the system... Most definitely will matter.

Given what they have done with gyms, I would expect the opposite.

PVP will have more normalized stat calculations so that segment of the game isn't completely monopolized by the power-users.
 

t26

Member
They could introduce breeding or trading where you want prefect IV. I will say 14 and 15 IV isn't going to be making a huge difference, but when I am only using 6-10 Pokemon I am not going to invent any more stardust in a 75% Pokemon. If I have prefect IV Pokemon that I will be using a long time I don't mind investing the stardust at a low level.
 
Guess who had bought flights and hotel for Amsterdam! Tbf its not like there isn't much to do over there and I'm sure these regionals will be around that time. Not too salty, I just need a good Amsterdam tracker.

Actually in Amsterdam now. There was an Articuno right outside my hotel but it's raining and noone else is around, so I obviously failed. How the hell am I going to get 20 random people showing up for this?
 
while I don't really feel the chicago pokemon go fest has much grounds for a lawsuit given they eventually mostly turned it into a fine event from what I have heard.

that move, even with intentions to make it better, no doubt will land them another lawsuit as a 6 day warning is not enough and many people may not be able to cancel to change their plans without losing or needing to spend more money.

It is what it is, I can't cancel Flights + Hotel but for 4 nights it costs me £200 altogether, not breaking the bank and was an excuse for a mini break. If I can catch a non-europe regional I'll be happy during my time there but I'm not throwing my toys out the pram. Amsterdam is fun enough anyway!
 

border

Member
Just pay attention to the attack stat. A 15/10/10 is better than a 10/15/15 even though the latter has better overall %.

As long as Attack is greater than 8, it doesn't look like it makes that much difference. For the faster quick moves like Bite and Pound you get max damage even if Attack is 1-2. A high Attack can net you a few extra damage points on a Charged Move, but even in the context of a raid that probably doesn't amount to a whole lot.
 

Firemind

Member
As long as Attack is greater than 8, it doesn't look like it makes that much difference. For the faster quick moves like Bite and Pound you get max damage even if Attack is 1-2. A high Attack can net you a few extra damage points on a Charged Move, but even in the context of a raid that probably doesn't amount to a whole lot.
You also save stardust. For every point in attack iv you save 2/3 power ups. So a 10 attack iv might cost you an extra 10 power ups for the next damage breakdown of your quick move.

So your argument that a 70% high level is smarter to evolve than a 100% lower level is not entirely correct. You save more stardust at the same level but at the cost of performance. It's not marginal since DPS matters in raids, especially since they award you extra balls for total damage output. HP and defense matters little I agree. In fact it might pay off to have less defense to build up your charge meter more quickly.
 

CassSept

Member
I was always surprised when I saw people saying that they have candies for Pokemon X but they're not evolving it until they get 90%+ IV mon. I usually check if it's in the top IV tier (82%+) or not and don't even check the exact IV (except for Pokemon like Dragonite/Tyranitar given how rare and hard to get they are), I don't see the point considering the way combat works in the game.

Nice to see confirmation that obsessing over IV is useless.
 

border

Member
. You save more stardust at the same level but at the cost of performance. And DPS matters in raids, especially since it awards you extra balls for total damage output.

The performance cost is negligible compared to the huge Stardust sink it takes to move a low level/high IV pokemon up to a higher level.

If we're talking about trying to perform an extraordinary feat (solo'ing a Tier 3 raid, taking down a Tyranitar with just 2 people), then all this min-max stuff may have some value.

But normal Raids are won and lost because enough people show up (or don't show up). DPS matters, but getting in an extra 100-300 damage over the course of a fight doesn't matter a whole lot when you're only one out of 6-20 players. I personally don't see the point in burning Stardust and maxing out IVs for some vague goal like "You might get more Premier Pokeballs."

If other people think it's worth it then that is cool for them. It just seems like a lot of blood, sweat and tears poured into something that actually doesn't make much difference. But since everyone pretty much has to invent their own goals for the endgame, I understand if they want to make great IVs a goal.
 

Firemind

Member
Eh, I just like to think the popularity of raids won't last forever. A lot of people I meet just want one for dex completion. In the long run, you might have to do raids with a handful of people. I did Articuno raids with 7 people multiple times over the week.

And my point was that you shouldn't solely focus on the % of a Pokemon's total ivs. Attack currently has more weight than defense and stamina, so a 70% with higher attack might be more preferable than a 90% with lower attack.
 

Ashodin

Member
the only reason to go for perfect IVs is to have bragging rights imo

Like this fuckin' dude

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(perfect IV yeahhhhhhhhh)
 

GulAtiCa

Member
Oh nice! I did 5 Legendary raids this morning with a group of people. Was fun. Caught 2 Articunos and a Lugia. My Fiancee finally got her own Lugia now! She's starting to do better with attackers. She has 2 Tyrantiars (1 raid + 1 evolved), a Ampharos, 2 Articunos and a Lugia now. Will likely have her evolve a few Eevees soon. Need to find a Geodude nest..
 
So I'm trying to get more Poké Balls but it says my bag is full. I'm guessing each potion is an individual count and not a whole group counting as one slot?

Also, I caught a Ditto!
 

kiri

Member
So I'm trying to get more Poké Balls but it says my bag is full. I'm guessing each potion is an individual count and not a whole group counting as one slot?

Also, I caught a Ditto!

You'd be right. The higher level you get, the less you needs Pokéballs for.

Have an even mix of Potions + Pokéballs (assuming you fight at gyms a lot, otherwise focus on balls).
Then, Super Potions/Great Balls,
Then, Hyper-Max Potions/Ultra Balls etc.

Don't toss any TM Machines or evolve items, rare candy is also very helpful as are revives, especially when it comes to raiding.
 
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