Metroid Killer
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Hmm no I don't think so, I don't see any trucks there.Gravijah said:
I foresee that soon Echoes will make his own torture image of Palmer...
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I foresee that soon Echoes will make his own torture image of Palmer...
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Yeah, well I may be factually wrong about Swampert's fighting ability, but Swampert's sheer suckitude drowns this fact in a limpid pool of fail.Firestorm said:
I said before that I know that Swampert isn't an objectively bad pokemon. I just feel that there are better water types out there and that he and his pre-evolutions are as ugly as sin. Also, I have min/max tendencies when I train and everything about it is just... so-so. I mean, yeah, it has the HP and OK defenses, good type coverage and Stealth Rock, but he's just not for me, OK?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Anybody got a SoulSilver Groudon that I could borrow for a few minutes? I'd just like to catch Rayquaza and be done with legendaries until the wi-fi Lati@s is released.
I'm pretty sure you can just Surf around from the port.Metroid Killer said:
Anyway, I'm doing a bit of grinding against the Elite Four in preparation for Red. Then, I can RNG a Kanto starter, and get the Blue Orb
I'm going to be at the England qualifier (why do they call it a qualifier? It's basically the UK nationals), with my little brother. I still haven't actually started breeding/catching/training my team yet, but I do have it planned out. It shouldn't take too long with RNG abuse
^ IMO, the Pokewalker course that has it is the best. You can try Rock Smash-ing in Vermilion City as well.
Oh and that piece of duck Kingler.... Endure -> Salac Berry activates (+1 Speed) -> Flail. If it weren't for Garchomp's good defenses I would have died -_- he killed Starmie and Breloom in one hit.
BUT PAlMER-2nd IS THE BIGGEST CHEATER EVER :'(
I'm seriously not sure whether to take Primeape or Breloom with me. Primeape has Close Combat, U-Turn, Ice Punch, and Punishment. With a Focus Sash he can be very supporting and reliable. On the other hand, Breloom has Spore, Superpower, and the amazing Facade which, after one turn, will hit for 140.
645: I wish I can help, but I'm at work for the next 6 hours.
Oh, I will. And the A.I. is so freaking cheap! I substituted Primeape with Breloom (Spore, Seed Bomb, Superpower, Facade). My strategy is to Spore an opponent and kill it with anything. To my greatest luck, 3 enemies in a row (one in each match) had a Vital Spirit Pokemon as a lead, which means I can't spore it. Because I haven't memorized all the Pokes/Abilities, I won't know it until I spore them, only then to have a message telling me that they resist sleep.Metroid Killer said:
Oh and that piece of duck Kingler.... Endure -> Salac Berry activates (+1 Speed) -> Flail. If it weren't for Garchomp's good defenses I would have died -_- he killed Starmie and Breloom in one hit.
BUT PAlMER-2nd IS THE BIGGEST CHEATER EVER :'(
I'm seriously not sure whether to take Primeape or Breloom with me. Primeape has Close Combat, U-Turn, Ice Punch, and Punishment. With a Focus Sash he can be very supporting and reliable. On the other hand, Breloom has Spore, Superpower, and the amazing Facade which, after one turn, will hit for 140.
645: I wish I can help, but I'm at work for the next 6 hours.
Metroid Killer
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How many times have you fought Palmer2? Damn it must suck to him as it takes quite some time to reach him.
Only once. I can't even begin imagining the horror of losing again :lol I knew that he has Heatran and Regigigas, but didn't know about Cresselia. I didn't know anything about their moveset as well, so that nasty Focus Sash + Explosion caught me by surprise -_-
I just killed him the first time. Let's hope I manage reaching him again. Primeape with a Focus Sash is my only hope of survival. He will KO Heatran, and if Cresselia shows up I'll U-Turn and bring in Garchomp, as he will outspeed her without problems. And because of Regigigas's ability, I will also outspeed him and probably kill him (or bring him very low).
Edit: Wow, Primeape with Focus Sash is a TOTALLY different beast. Slaking comes, 2HKO (he was dumb enough to use Yawn, my ability prevents sleeping). Lickylicky OHKOd with CC as well. Wailord is 2HKOd with CC, thanks to Focus Sash that let me endure the Surf.
Highly recommended. Starmie + Primeape + Garchomp = omg.
I just killed him the first time. Let's hope I manage reaching him again. Primeape with a Focus Sash is my only hope of survival. He will KO Heatran, and if Cresselia shows up I'll U-Turn and bring in Garchomp, as he will outspeed her without problems. And because of Regigigas's ability, I will also outspeed him and probably kill him (or bring him very low).
Edit: Wow, Primeape with Focus Sash is a TOTALLY different beast. Slaking comes, 2HKO (he was dumb enough to use Yawn, my ability prevents sleeping). Lickylicky OHKOd with CC as well. Wailord is 2HKOd with CC, thanks to Focus Sash that let me endure the Surf.
Highly recommended. Starmie + Primeape + Garchomp = omg.
I have heard a lot of shitty things concerning the Battle Frontier and their cheating AI but MY GOD once you experience it you will realize by yourself how broken it is. This fucking Tower is the most broken "challenging rooms" I have EVER witnessed in RPGs. Edit: IN ALL GAMING.
- Floatzel uses Double Team SIX FUCKING TIMES and Starmie CAN'T hit him EVERY single time!
- Foe's Starmie kills Primeape with Psychic. FINE! Go, my Starmie. Mine has 30 IV in speed and ev-trained in speed and special attack. Yet, Foe's Starmie managed to hit with Confuse Ray. FIIINE! Starmie then hits itself FOUR TIMES IN A ROW. Dies. Go Garchomp. Confuse Ray, and he hits himself ANOTHER THREE FUCKING TURNS IN A ROW.
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What in the FUCKING fuck? WHY? FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GAME.
I quit everything Pokemon-related because of this piece of broken shit.
Fucking Game Freak. Instead of designing a superb AI they cheat their way out with out-of-the-world broken RNG. All they do is cheat their way even through their fucking life.
Fuckers.
Edit: this is just a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit of what I'm going through in the Battle Frontier. Once you beat Palmer the first time the game simply CHEATS against you. No fucking way my monsters hit themselves seven fucking turns in a row while Starmie had like 25% and would simply be annihilated with ANY move.
- Floatzel uses Double Team SIX FUCKING TIMES and Starmie CAN'T hit him EVERY single time!
- Foe's Starmie kills Primeape with Psychic. FINE! Go, my Starmie. Mine has 30 IV in speed and ev-trained in speed and special attack. Yet, Foe's Starmie managed to hit with Confuse Ray. FIIINE! Starmie then hits itself FOUR TIMES IN A ROW. Dies. Go Garchomp. Confuse Ray, and he hits himself ANOTHER THREE FUCKING TURNS IN A ROW.
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What in the FUCKING fuck? WHY? FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GAME.
I quit everything Pokemon-related because of this piece of broken shit.
Fucking Game Freak. Instead of designing a superb AI they cheat their way out with out-of-the-world broken RNG. All they do is cheat their way even through their fucking life.
Fuckers.
Edit: this is just a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit of what I'm going through in the Battle Frontier. Once you beat Palmer the first time the game simply CHEATS against you. No fucking way my monsters hit themselves seven fucking turns in a row while Starmie had like 25% and would simply be annihilated with ANY move.
Metroid Killer
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Oh my :lolupandaway said:
It's funny how an innocent game like pokemon can make you ragequit. The thought of getting to Palmer2 hasn't even occured to me, since I just grind the BF and that's it. Waaay too much cheat for me to enjoy it at this point(I still haven't EV trained mind you).
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Citation needed. I won't believe it until I see proof. Bullshit luck is to be expected in Pokemon, no matter how improbable.upandaway said:
And not to rub it in, but the CPU doesn't even start using its best teams until at least battle 50.
Give me like 10 minutes and that would be great.thefil said:
EDIT: FC is 4082-7707-6833.
EDIT 2: Hooray!
No matter how improbable? It does matter. That's the whole basis to me saying it's cheating. Immediate citation, I guess, is Echoes saying he didn't go through confusion as much as he did. It's just one time, yeah, so it remains to be seen if he really did have an insane one-time stroke.Sixfortyfive said:
You don't know, for example, that the game didn't cheat against you if you didn't give it the chance.
MNC said:Oh my God, I finally start to get the hang of Voltorb flip and it's immensely fun, I managed to get to Lvl 5 highest
This might be what you're after.
Unfortunately I didn't save Starmie's fuckfest battle as I was too busy raging from the inside, but here's something equally shitty:
Video ID: 55-41110-04016
Basically:
My Primeape uses Punishment
Gallade uses Drain Punch
Primeape uses Punishment, MISSES
Gallade kills Primeape
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Garchomp Swords Dance
Gallade uses Ice Punch, Garchomp survives!
Garchomp uses Earthquake, MISSES
dies
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Starmie uses Surf, MISSES
Gallade attack, she survive
Starmie uses Surf, it fucking damaged Gallade. YEAH LIKE A SURF WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HIM AFTER ALL THIS MISSES. I would have killed this piece of shit if ANY of the other moves hit. 2 Surf would have done it. But no, they make you hit only when you have 1 HP so they can laugh at your own misery.
3 misses in a row with 100%-accuracy moves is COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. Period. I don't give a crap if he's holding Bright Powder. Had it been this broken, people would have used it ALL the time.
Fucking fuck.
Video ID: 55-41110-04016
Basically:
My Primeape uses Punishment
Gallade uses Drain Punch
Primeape uses Punishment, MISSES
Gallade kills Primeape
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Garchomp Swords Dance
Gallade uses Ice Punch, Garchomp survives!
Garchomp uses Earthquake, MISSES
dies
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Starmie uses Surf, MISSES
Gallade attack, she survive
Starmie uses Surf, it fucking damaged Gallade. YEAH LIKE A SURF WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HIM AFTER ALL THIS MISSES. I would have killed this piece of shit if ANY of the other moves hit. 2 Surf would have done it. But no, they make you hit only when you have 1 HP so they can laugh at your own misery.
3 misses in a row with 100%-accuracy moves is COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. Period. I don't give a crap if he's holding Bright Powder. Had it been this broken, people would have used it ALL the time.
Fucking fuck.
Metroid Killer
Member
Ok time to do some EV training, can you guys confirm if i got this right?
When having a pokemon with PKRS and the Macho Brace:
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 1 HP ev = 4 HP EV
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 2 HP ev = 8 HP EV
When having a pokemon with PKRS and the Power Weight:
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 1 HP EV = 10 HP EV
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 2 HP EV = 12 HP EV
When having a pokemon with PKRS and the Macho Brace:
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 1 HP ev = 4 HP EV
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 2 HP ev = 8 HP EV
When having a pokemon with PKRS and the Power Weight:
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 1 HP EV = 10 HP EV
Battling against a pokemon that gives out 2 HP EV = 12 HP EV
Mafro, I'm sure you can learn it anytime you want, no limits.
And it seems I'm not the only one being cheated with Gallade :/ I swear to god I don't give a crap about BP anymore, I just wanna kill that piece of fucking shit Palmer for the 2nd time.
Yep! If you need Power items tell me, I have like 70 BP.Metroid Killer said:
And it seems I'm not the only one being cheated with Gallade :/ I swear to god I don't give a crap about BP anymore, I just wanna kill that piece of fucking shit Palmer for the 2nd time.
Metroid Killer
Member
If you don't mind I could use a Power Bracer and a Power Anklet. In the long run they are much more usefull compared to the macho brace.Echoes said:
So getting 252 HP can be 24 battles against a pokemon that give out 1 HP EV and then 1 battle against a pokemon that gives out 2 HP EV = 252 HP EV, right?
Damn every step into the more hardcore areas of pokemon is crazy :lol
Metroid Killer
Member
Awesome! Getting online then
Edit: In the room now
Edit: In the room now
Yeah you are right, but they are so expensive so I guess that if you are gonna EV train a whole team you are quickly gonna run out of money, no? Then again grinding E42 is pretty much a daily event now...Colkate said:
Metroid Killer
Member
Ok then. Last EV related question for now. Once you've filled out all the EVs, the only thing that'll remove the EVs in any sort of way is if you give them the special berries. So you can safely battle any random pokemon after getting the EVs you want?
Just so you know: Misdreavus has 31 IV in HP and SpDef , and Riolu has Crunch (an egg move). You could breed the Lucario-then for the perfect nature, and you can breed a perfect Misdreavus if you're not satisfied with this one's nature (have her hold one of the Power items to pass down the IV).
Have fun training, bro
Edit: Yep, you got it right.
Have fun training, bro
Edit: Yep, you got it right.
Metroid Killer
Member
Awesome thanks a lot Echoes!!
and you just happen to give me my favorite ghost pokemon and a riolu which I didn't have
and you just happen to give me my favorite ghost pokemon and a riolu which I didn't have
The Black/White thread vanished -- has this been posted yet? Apologies if it has:
edit- Just occurred to me that people might not be posting it because links to vids like this might be against ToS somehow. Not going to link it, but it looked like first footage of Black/White gameplay on a Japanese game show.
edit- Just occurred to me that people might not be posting it because links to vids like this might be against ToS somehow. Not going to link it, but it looked like first footage of Black/White gameplay on a Japanese game show.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Echoes said:
I've noticed the same thing with this game, the whole random aspect of the battles has been almost eliminated and everything is severely stacked in favour of the opponents Pokemon. Critical hits in particular are incredibly predictable now with other trainers and wild Pokemon seemingly getting them once every two or three attacks, where you can only get a critical hit when the attack would have knocked out the enemy Pokemon regardless.
It's something I've noticed creeping in since the R/S/E and Collosseum days and one of the reasons I lost interest in the franchise.
Got a Chansey swarm on Route 13. ^_^
So I had planned on trying to get Lucky Eggs for the next four hours and fortunately enough, I already have 6 Lucky Eggs within half an hour. :lol
I only really need two for myself, does anyone else want one? I can't trade right now since I'm at work (hence the reason why I had planned to use the next four hours to get Lucky Eggs) but I can definitely give some out after 5:30pm PST. I'm not sure how many I'll have by the end of today but I'll try to Thief as many as possible.
So I had planned on trying to get Lucky Eggs for the next four hours and fortunately enough, I already have 6 Lucky Eggs within half an hour. :lol
I only really need two for myself, does anyone else want one? I can't trade right now since I'm at work (hence the reason why I had planned to use the next four hours to get Lucky Eggs) but I can definitely give some out after 5:30pm PST. I'm not sure how many I'll have by the end of today but I'll try to Thief as many as possible.
No, the Battle Tower is pretty bullshit. It almost always rolls high on anything that requires a virtual dice roll. This means you should never use moves that can miss, have a sturdy Pokemon if possible (or something fast + strong enough to kill a Pokemon before it uses OHKO moves), and some sort of counter for Bright Powder / Double Team. There's this entire metagame around beating the Battle Tower really as the strategies need to take into account extreme bias towards the CPU.Sixfortyfive said:
My own experience was in Pearl where Palmer's Rhyperior for some reason was 252 spatk with a +spatk nature and OHKO'd my Dragonite two times in a row - something only possible if he rolled 100% on his damage calculation.
The random element does not really exist in Battle Tower. The further you get, the further it falls in your opponent's court.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Echoes said:
Couple of things I have noticed (but may just be SSS or observer's bias):
When an AI Pokemon spams DT, it seems like you miss for several turns in a row followed by moves connecting for a few consecutive turns.
The game seems to increase the hax factor once you've reached/surpassed your personal best. I've seen crazy hax happen as early as the 4th set but only on my first time through that part of the tower.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
battle tower isn't cheap, they just get lucky sometimes. I clean up house in there and the only thing that stops me when i'm far in is ohko moves.
Neko Godot
Member
I could use one, I'm getting pretty bored waiting around for a Chansey swarm myself.Bii said:
Exactly how do the EV reducing berries work? Like how many EVs do they remove? I want to EV train a couple of pokemon I used for the main quest as they have good natures, but is this really feasible? Also, is there any way to figure out the EV spread of pokemon if you didn't track EVs from the beginning?
Azure Phoenix
Member
Bii said:
Would you be able to hang on to one for me please? I'm in the UK so 5:30pm PST is too late for me (works out at 1:30am), but I don't mind waiting until a more suitable time to trade with you.