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[booyakasha]

Pokemon Steel and Cobalt could be some pretty good names.

Those sound cool but steel is a pokemon type, and I don't think they would do that. Or we could all be completely wrong and they continue the trend of two word for the name of the game like Heart gold and soul liver.

 

[Gravijah]

I'm gonna take your latter sentiment and translate it. Assuming that i am a parent and my childs (the target market) pokemon games doubles from the usual 35 to 70 dollars (an example), you are goddamn right that i am not only going to do a double take but that little johnny aint getting shit.

I'm assuming that in japan pokemon games cost 40 dollars and i know ff games costly roughly 80 dollars.

Again, ff is on a console where the entry price is not as nice while the ds is relatively cheap and its games cost roughly half of that of a console one.

The only factor that i'm neglecting is pokemon's youth appeal which ff will never have.

OK how about this, 2 Pokemon games together is the same price as the cost of an FF game in your argument. Divide Pokemon sales in half... Are they still higher than FF?

 

[trinest]

I'm thinking this is about something like Ranger or Dungon but a new series and not the "main" games.

 

[udivision]

I'm thinking this is about something like Ranger or Dungon but a new series and not the "main" games.

At this point you really don't have a reason too =/

 

[Zilch]

I'm thinking this is about something like Ranger or Dungon but a new series and not the "main" games.

Pretty much everything including direct translations of the PR and the director's blog indicates that this IS a new "main" game, though.

I will eat my HAT if it isn't!

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

OK how about this, 2 Pokemon games together is the same price as the cost of an FF game in your argument. Divide Pokemon sales in half... Are they still higher than FF?

5.87 mil divided by two is...roughly 3million. While higher (a bit) than the ff sales that the one user presented, that's a shit load of lost sales. Plus, you forgot to account for the fact that a console is more expensive...

Why am i even talking about this? It's common sense. Cheaper games on cheaper machines sell more especially if they've garnered an audience. Now can we get back to gen 5 hype.

 

[Unicorn]

Just wish all the new pokemon will only be evolutions of existing ones so every pokemon could be viable for metagame team creation.

 

[Boney]

Where's my Drill Dozer 2 huh Game Freaks! Or better yet, new original game.

 

[AwesomeSyrup]

I almost hope this doesn't come out this year because two Pokemon RPGs would suck way too much of my time up.

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

The games will definitely be out this year in japan. The better question is this: will anyone hold out for the eventual third game?

 

[Black-Wind]

Where's my Drill Dozer 2 huh Game Freaks! Or better yet, new original game.

Get that shit outta here. >_>

The games will definitely be out this year in japan. The better question is this: will anyone hold out for the eventual third game?

No, but I will hold out to see if DS2 is coming before I buy a DS to replace my broken one.

 

[Gravijah]

Get that shit outta here. >_>

plz n ty

 

[mr_chun]

What you're arguing though just isn't going to happen. GameFreak aren't going to trim down the size of the roster, and the games are only going to get bigger from now on. Now what I'd personally like is for the future games to have a BIGGER starting Pokedex. With the next games going to have near 600 Pokemon, give me wider varieties in the routes. I think the "normal" Pokedex should be at least 300-350.

Edit: Also, my view on what Pokemon is very loose. I think Pokemon strives to be for everyone and any changes that are made have to take into account everyone. Battlers, collectors, type collectors, people who love specific pokemon, etc etc

Which is precisely why I said this.

obviously my views aren't going to be taken into consideration, so no need to get your panties into a wad

I get it. I'm just saying that that's what I personally would like in a Pokemon game.

 

[Teknoman]

Needs more Pulseman II.

 

[Bizzyb]

Unless neo is lying to us or mistranslated, it's a new, original game. So that means it won't be a remake of Crystal.

Means absolutely nothing if it plays exactly like the last 3 pokemon's before it. They really need to do something with this series and it's formula. It's worse than the Zelda situation.

 

[Black-Wind]

Needs more Pulseman II.

Make a 2D Pikachu that plays LIKE Pulsman and you have yourself a more likely outcome.

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

Means absolutely nothing if it plays exactly like the last 3 pokemon's before it. They really need to do something with this series and it's formula. It's worse than the Zelda situation.[/QUT

The game apparently has some game play innovations up its sleeve.

 

[udivision]

Too bad the "situation" prints money.

 

[trinest]

The games will definitely be out this year in japan. The better question is this: will anyone hold out for the eventual third game?

I will this time around, I'm going to be busy playing HG/SS + I'm not that big of a pokemon player anymore.

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Wasn't there about a 2-year wait between D/P and Plat? I don't think I could hold out that long.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Wasn't there about a 2-year wait between D/P and Plat? I don't think I could hold out that long.

Assuming the usual year-long delay between Japan and other regions and the two year gap before the third version, regions outside Japan would have the third version by 2013. And by then they might be getting ready to announce/release Ruby/Sapphire remakes in Japan. :lol

 

[Unicorn]

And by then they might be getting ready to announce/release Ruby/Sapphire remakes in Japan. :lol

Dear God NO!!!

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

Dear God NO!!!

Hate to break it to you dude but they are definitely coming.

 

[Unicorn]

Hate to break it to you dude but they are definitely coming.

Oh I don't doubt it, I just want to live in and enjoy my state of denial for as long as possible.

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

Does anybody actually believe that this game is going to be something along the lines of "MindCrystal"? I'm reading other forum posters thoughts on the announcement and let me tell you that there are some dense people in the world.

Their reasoning why these games aren't gen 5:
--Anime isn't close to being over
--Should be a ds2 release
--Definitely going to be the third game in the hg/ss saga
--Too soon
---Spin off

My biggest qualm is their ds2 argument. A poster on the bulbagarden forums actually called the ds "old and tired". Are you freaking kidding me!? That shit sold over 3mil units in december.

Another take on the ds2 argument is that nintendo always has a new pokemon ready to go with the release of its systems. WRONG!!! D/P came out almost years into the release of the DS.

These people know nothing about sales. Why release gen 5 on the ds? Because that shit would extend the life of the ds deep into the farthest reaches of space. I regret the day the Iwata mentioned the DS2 cause people just won't shut the fuck up about it.

 

[Gravijah]

Does anybody actually believe that this game is going to be something along the lines of "MindCrystal"? I'm reading other forum posters thoughts on the announcement and let me tell you that there are some dense people in the world.

Their reasoning why these games aren't gen 5:
--Anime isn't close to being over
--Should be a ds2 release
--Definitely going to be the third game in the hg/ss saga
--Too soon
---Spin off

My biggest qualm is their ds2 argument. A poster on the bulbagarden forums actually called the ds "old and tired". Are you freaking kidding me!? That shit sold over 3mil units in december.

Another take on the ds2 argument is that nintendo always has a new pokemon ready to go with the release of its systems. WRONG!!! D/P came out almost years into the release of the DS.

These people know nothing about sales. Why release gen 5 on the ds? Because that shit would extend the life of the ds deep into the farthest reaches of space. I regret the day the Iwata mentioned the DS2 cause people just won't shut the fuck up about it.

R/S also came out... 2 years after the GBA debuted?

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

R/S also came out... 2 years after the GBA debuted?

Exactly! And last gen has shown that a system's best games come out late into its life cycle (for the most part).

Edit: And nintendo didn't hold back R/S just because they had the DS releasing in a year and a half.

 

[Slavik81]

Those sound cool but steel is a pokemon type, and I don't think they would do that. Or we could all be completely wrong and they continue the trend of two word for the name of the game like Heart gold and soul liver.

They should name future games after internal organs. Pokemon Spleen and Pokemon Liver. Hell yes.

 

[Kyzer]

Does anybody actually believe that this game is going to be something along the lines of "MindCrystal"? I'm reading other forum posters thoughts on the announcement and let me tell you that there are some dense people in the world.

Their reasoning why these games aren't gen 5:
--Anime isn't close to being over
--Should be a ds2 release
--Definitely going to be the third game in the hg/ss saga
--Too soon
---Spin off

My biggest qualm is their ds2 argument. A poster on the bulbagarden forums actually called the ds "old and tired". Are you freaking kidding me!? That shit sold over 3mil units in december.

Another take on the ds2 argument is that nintendo always has a new pokemon ready to go with the release of its systems. WRONG!!! D/P came out almost years into the release of the DS.

These people know nothing about sales. Why release gen 5 on the ds? Because that shit would extend the life of the ds deep into the farthest reaches of space. I regret the day the Iwata mentioned the DS2 cause people just won't shut the fuck up about it.

That's weird. The anime IS close to coming to an end, if anything. In Japan Ash already has a fully evolved team and the opening features almost all of the legendaries in the series.

 

[hemtae]

Speaking of R/S, I wouldn't mind if they were to do something similar to those games in that only 200 or so of the pokemon are available to be gotten, but a lot of GAF probably disagrees with me seeing as how much hate those games get.

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

To be honest i didn't like the way the nintendo completely alienated players from over 150 pokemon with the release of R/S. You couldn't get a charmander until late 2004. Hell no.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Assuming the usual year-long delay between Japan and other regions and the two year gap before the third version, regions outside Japan would have the third version by 2013. And by then they might be getting ready to announce/release Ruby/Sapphire remakes in Japan. :lol

Why the hell would they need to remake R/S? It's aged pretty well....aww fuck who am I kidding I'll probably Blazing Ruby and Star Sapphire version. >_>

 

[mooooose]

I never understood complaints like this. You guys act like more variety is a bad thing...no one is forcing you to catch all of them anyway and "Gotta catch em' all!" stopped being the tagline YEARS ago. I feel most of the people complaining about a large number of pokemon have never played the game online against other people...

It's not a complaint at all. I just think it would be interesting and give them more inspiration into putting thought and care into the designs when there are only 150 slots.

 

[BurritoBushido]

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Why the hell would they need to remake R/S? It's aged pretty well....aww fuck who am I kidding I'll probably Blazing Ruby and Star Sapphire version. >_>

The game would be over a decade old by then, and who knows what Gen 5 may do.

I always thought people felt Fire Red/Leaf Green were the only remakes so far that had a purpose other than being an up-to-date version of the original anyway. But I haven't been following HG/SS's content too much, so maybe it does do something.

Granted I was (half-)joking when I said that anyway.

 

[Unicorn]

The game would be over a decade old by then, and who knows what Gen 5 may do.

I always thought people felt Fire Red/Leaf Green were the only remakes so far that had a purpose other than being an up-to-date version of the original anyway. But I haven't been following HG/SS's content too much, so maybe it does do something.

Granted I was (half-)joking when I said that anyway.

There was some convoluted mess in order to get G/S pokemon in D/P, so a full-fledged remastering of the best pokemon generation is fully welcomed and justified.

 

[Gameboy415]

That's weird. The anime IS close to coming to an end, if anything. In Japan Ash already has a fully evolved team and the opening features almost all of the legendaries in the series.

He finally let Pikachu evolve?!

I hope this is just an updated game (like Crystal) instead of a 5th gen release....I haven't even started Diamond or Pearl!

 

[Rocksteady33]

He finally let Pikachu evolve?!

I hope this is just an updated game (like Crystal) instead of a 5th gen release....I haven't even started Diamond or Pearl!

http://serebii.net/anime/characters/ash.shtml

 

[Jeels]

I love the visual style of the DS games, but I would like to see it pushed even further.

 

["IAMBEEFLESS"]

He finally let Pikachu evolve?!

I hope this is just an updated game (like Crystal) instead of a 5th gen release....I haven't even started Diamond or Pearl!

Was supposed to be a gif with someone shaking their head...

 

[AKingNamedPaul]

This really isn't as funny as it is to me, but the Rock's expressions won me over.

 

[Jeels]

He finally let Pikachu evolve?!

Ohohoho, like that would ever happen!

 

[lordfroakie]

He finally let Pikachu evolve?!

I hope this is just an updated game (like Crystal) instead of a 5th gen release....I haven't even started Diamond or Pearl!

New Opening the guy was talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mXM7QARJr8

 

[Cruceh]

http://serebii.net/anime/characters/ash.shtml

This reminded me of butterfree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z44MUW4Qil4
I cried so much when I first saw that episode and every time I saw it since. :'(

 

[Jeels]

New Opening the guy was talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mXM7QARJr8

Wow, that video really makes legendary's feel not so legendary. What happened.

 

[seady]

The only changes they made since the very first game that are (kind of) relevant are:

Day/Night cycle
Two Pokemon per team battle at once
Pre-Evolution
Online Trading/Battle

Other than that, other things are mostly unimportant or simply aesthetic... (even the aesthetic wasn't that updated really, the battle is still with almost no background)

 

[AKingNamedPaul]

The only changes they made since the very first game that are (kind of) relevant are:

Day/Night cycle
Two Pokemon per team battle at once
Pre-Evolution
Online Trading/Battle

Other than that, other things are mostly unimportant or simply aesthetic... (even the aesthetic wasn't that updated really, the battle is still with almost no background)

farming berries, battle items, battle tower, added types, abilities, tons of game changing moves, the list does go on. It really does.

 

[Jeels]

farming berries, battle items, battle tower, added types, abilities, tons of game changing moves, the list does go on. It really does.

adding more items, types, and abilities is kind of standard in RPG sequels anyway though. I think the poster was trying to highlight changes that would make the game feel substantially different.

 

[AKingNamedPaul]

adding more items, types, and abilities is kind of standard in RPG sequels anyway though. I think the poster was trying to highlight changes that would make the game feel substantially different.

not more items, hold items in general were huge, as well as the physical/special shift. The first games had no pokemon abilities, so this was another huge change.

 

[jman2050]

farming berries, battle items, battle tower, added types, abilities, tons of game changing moves, the list does go on. It really does.

Not to mention the changes to the stat system, like splitting the special stat and tweaking the way stats are built up, the physical/special split, the increasing important of battlefield conditions.