esmith08734
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Question, albeit a stupid one, but how do I check Pokemon's attack power?
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I hate M Glalie.
I've gone back to trying to S rank every stage because this is a wall I've yet to climb.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
The benefit to doing this is that you'll catch more Pokemon and level a team up to take him down. I'm working on catching Sawk now.
CapNBritain
Member
I just tried a team with Mega Altaria, Haunter, Zoroark, and Absol. Lost both times, but I think I'll stick with it and see if I get any better with them.
I've fought Gengar over 50 times by now. It's pretty frustrating.
Edit:
Just tried two more times. First time I won with 3 moves left, which is decent (of course, I didn't catch Gengar). Second time I only did 40% damage. This new team seems to rely a lot on luck. If the disruption Haunters line up with my own, and if there are enough Altarias to set off the Mega early, then I have a pretty good chance. But I don't know if the chance of these events happening is any better than the steady damage of my all Dark team.
Anyone catch Gengar with a good team, or was it mostly luck?
Either tap on a Pokemon while on team selection (tap the Pokeball icon instead of just Optimize,) or tap the menu button on the main map screen (where the StreetPass dot appears) and tap Pokemon List.
No Sableye? Gengar is weak to it so I guess it would make your life easier.
Uh... remember what I said about not wanting to know what the 15 second EX stages are like?
I tried fighting Entei. Lost the first try but beat it the second try. It's not necessarily difficult, but... I won with 2 seconds remaining. Want to know how much those two seconds increased the catch chance?
How are you even supposed to catch it :L
So yeah...
I've got all the EX pokemon before it (except Blaziken) at least.
I tried fighting Entei. Lost the first try but beat it the second try. It's not necessarily difficult, but... I won with 2 seconds remaining. Want to know how much those two seconds increased the catch chance?
0%. That's right, and it only has a 1% base catch rate.
So yeah...
this is accurate.
I've got all the EX pokemon before it (except Blaziken) at least.
CapNBritain
Member
Originally I had Sableye but I was advised to use a Mega that had better clearing power. Altaria does a better job of breaking up the blocks and I try to get her to Mega immediately. But if her Mega doesn't trigger a lot of combos then it's all a waste. So far it's a 50/50 win rate, either winning by 2-4 moves or doing under 50% damage. Rarely anything in between. Doesn't seem as good as my other team with Sableye but I will stick with it for a few more Hearts,
Did you use a +time bonus?
Because I'm pretty sure they don't count toward the catchability bonus.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
I think this game desperately needs a sound test or music player. The music is just soooooooo good.
Nope, no bonuses. I'll try again in 10 minutes and see if I can get better than 2 seconds, but if that much time doesn't add any catchability I don't know how this is possible.
If I'm remembering correctly it adds percentage for multiples of three for those 15 second ones. So if you did one second better you would've gotten some.
Okay, that's weird.
I beat Suicune within 8 seconds and remember the catch rate increasing to +30% and I did manage to catch it.
So I don't see why Entei would be different considering all legendary dogs seem to follow the same format.
Edit:
Now that's just really evil if true
That's... a pretty silly way of doing it, but ok.
Yeah, just beat Entei with 8 seconds remaining as well. It actually increased to 41%, not 31. And thankfully I caught it.
So it's not super terrible after all, just have to do well.
The worst part is that those aren't even the worst, IMO. Still have yet to beat Blaziken.
And I've officially whittled the catches down to just massive pains. In addition to Blaziken as mentioned above, there's Togekiss which I'm working on and seems the most doable, Zoroark which is also insane, and Xerneas which has been a pain as well. Still need to unlock the last two EX stages as well.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Sometimes it just feels like the catch rates in the game are biased towards 50% for any non-100% values. Does it feel the same to you guys, too?
It's like the exact opposite of the thing that semi-recent Fire Emblem games do with regard to accuracy.
Has anyone ever actually tried to,tally up the actual probabilities?
It's like the exact opposite of the thing that semi-recent Fire Emblem games do with regard to accuracy.
Has anyone ever actually tried to,tally up the actual probabilities?
Is there a trick to S-ranking Grovyle (stage 72)? Or do you just have to get lucky? I Googled and found a suggestion to use Treecko (which does only 1/2 damage) to take advantage of the other Treeckos in the stage but I couldn't make that work either.
It's very frustrating to keep wasting hearts trying to S-rank this annoying stage. I hate F2P. Just let me buy the damn game! Yes, as a matter of fact I would like some cheese with my whine! XD
It's very frustrating to keep wasting hearts trying to S-rank this annoying stage. I hate F2P. Just let me buy the damn game! Yes, as a matter of fact I would like some cheese with my whine! XD
You have to put theecko in the last slot so it triggers the combo from the start, this way you can beat it in 2 turns and get a higher chance to catch it. This also gives you an S rank.
Thanks, but it chooses the 'mon for each column randomly. I put Treecko in the last slot this time and it didn't assign it to any of the three starting columns.
The first time I tried it (earlier today) it did happen to put it in one of the columns so it started off with a match but I still couldn't clear it with an S rank. Ah, but I remember now it was the first column so it took down only one of the two walls. That's probably why it didn't help me S rank the first time I tried it.
If there is no trick, I just have to keep wasting hearts on this dumb level until I get lucky. Sigh. More cheese, please.
CapNBritain
Member
Switched my Gengar team to Mega Sableye, Haunter, Absol, and Zoroark. Won 3 times in a row with 1-3 moves left (but still didn't catch him). Sableyes mega move doesn't clear as much as Altaria's but it works decently enough when combined with Haunter's clearing power. I've played this Gengar level around 60 times now...
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Complete luck on getting this combo, lol:
Starwolf_UK
Member
I think there might be confirmation bias going on of how common <50% chances are but maybe it rolls twice for some lower odds to make you feel lucky.
Alternatively the %ages could be completely meaningless (I'm remind of streetpass garden when it would say such and such a plant is 80% chance when it reality it was 0% because the seed shape you can see what not the seed for such a plant so it really was the other 20% chance 100% of the time).
ShadowElliot
Banned
So, finished off Mega Mewtwo Y...
And that's it? The game's over? Besides Extra stages and collecting every Pokemon?
And that's it? The game's over? Besides Extra stages and collecting every Pokemon?
There is more content coming later on it seems.
entremet
Member
S ranks
I'm there at Mega Mewtwo Y right now. Not as frustrating as Mega Glalie but I'm still having a tough time delivering the final blows. Guess I know where to spend my remaining coins.
ShadowElliot
Banned
Complexity -1, Mega Start, and Disrupt Spell (whatever the name is) helps.
I used the free Complexity -1 for it.
I'm gonna use the last one (I think it was Disruption Delay). Gonna see if I need more power-ups if that one alone does not work.
CapNBritain
Member
Finally beat Gengar! Just like with Zoroark, it was the last game before bed after days of trying (2 days at 30 tries a day for Zoroark, 3 days at 30 tries a day for Gengar). Setting Haunter definitely helped as with the Mega Sableye, Haunter, Zoroark, and Absol team I had an 80% win rate. Stages like these just take (a ridiculous amount of) time I guess.
Agreed. I can't believe I've played it for over 12 hours. It's highly enjoyable, and IMO the IAP aren't intrusive (or necessary) at all. But (and I haven't yet), I'd be totally fine with dropping a few quid on some extra hearts if I had a burning desire to play for longer in one sitting.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
So I think I'm going to admit defeat and just use coins to get through Mega Glalie. His ice block disruption really is designed to be unfair. Add in the fact that you have to juggle 6 Pokemon (presumably 4 of which are super effective and 2 of which do ~22 per 3 match), and you've got yourself a stage that I'm nearly convinced was designed to force you to use coins.
I have gotten him to a sliver of health, but it really and truly was 100% luck. Skyfalls are the ONLY way to beat him without items, and even then, you are at the mercy of RNG. I've had rounds where huge skyfall chains have triggered yet still only done <50% damage to him.
So with that, once my 5 hearts are regenerated for the day, I'll be going all out on him and spending coins like a boss to move past that dude.
I have gotten him to a sliver of health, but it really and truly was 100% luck. Skyfalls are the ONLY way to beat him without items, and even then, you are at the mercy of RNG. I've had rounds where huge skyfall chains have triggered yet still only done <50% damage to him.
So with that, once my 5 hearts are regenerated for the day, I'll be going all out on him and spending coins like a boss to move past that dude.
