TheSlySoul
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That seems to be a good strategy. I am not using my jewels for anything yet.
Pac-Man Monsters has the best timer ever. Got so much done with it.
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Pokemon Shuffle |OT| Every Day I'm Shuffling
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Ι lost my coin doing that. My precious coin.
Coins count as disruptions, so if you have a pokemon that eases disruptions, it might get rid of the coin too.
Well I decided I should use that free disruption delay on Mega Mewtwo and try and beat him for once. Got him on the last go. Good thing I bought the extra turns as well.
Not looking forward to having to try and S rank it as well.
Managed to catch all Pokémon on the main stages so far and up to Articuno on the EX stages.
Not looking forward to having to try and S rank it as well.
Managed to catch all Pokémon on the main stages so far and up to Articuno on the EX stages.
toythatkills
Member
You'd have been better off waiting, to be honest. There's no point using items unless you plan to S-rank the stage because otherwise you just have to go back and use more items later - you should have just waited until you could afford to go all out the first time and use everything to S-rank it so you don't need to go back and do it again.
Quoting to thank you for this strategy. I couldn't beat him during my first try (I was very close tho) but the second time went smoothly and I could catch him.
Froakie doesn't seem that hard but I always run out of moves. I can't manage to make a lot of combos :/
Yep let him fill up the board, once you get your mega just focus on your other pokemon and let slowbro match whenever it happens but don't really aim for it. He's one of my favourite megas, Slowbro, Gengar & Ampharos do some good work for me.
Mega Ampharos really helped beat down keldeo. Of course I still can't catch it lol
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Welp. I caught everyone, again, in normal stages.
Nothing much to do? Well, aside from waiting out for the rest of the daily stages...
Nothing much to do? Well, aside from waiting out for the rest of the daily stages...
toythatkills
Member
S-rank everything, expert stages, level up a bunch of Pokémon so you're prepared for the harder stages that are bound to be on the way.
Man, Fennekin is being a jerk. Probably approaching 20 catch attempts at 20-30% and still nothing.
Hooray for the tried and true "complain on GAF" method! Next try it captured at 9%!
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Finally caved and used the free disruption delay and bought a mega start on Onix. A ranked, 50% catch rate, and caught him.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
...That's exactly what I did on Onix today, too.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
20+ attempts and I realized it was not worth my time to keep trying. Some of the stages are SO weighted against you...
TheSlySoul
Member
I have a feeling the % is odd. I missed some at 80% and caught some at like 15%.
toythatkills
Member
That's how chance works.
toythatkills
Member
Just in case people haven't realised this, I'm almost 100% sure that there's a small quirk in the combo system which could have a decent effect on your score.
Basically, as far as I can tell, if you switch two Pokémon and make two matches at the same time, the one you moved with the stylus counts as the first in the chain, and the one that you switched with counts as the second in the chain - even though they actually move at the same time.
What this means is that if you're switching two Pokémon to make a match of three and a match of four, you need to be moving the Pokémon in the match of three so that the match of four counts second and you get more points for it than if you'd done it the other way round. Also, if you've got stronger Pokémon, you need to be moving the weaker Pokémon so that the stronger ones get a bigger boost by being second in the combo than the weaker one would.
This quirk also works in other areas. For example, if you've got two Pokémon with abilities, only the Pokémon you physically move will trigger, as far as I can tell. And if you've got a Pokémon evolved, it will trigger either before or after the other match you make at the same time depending on which of the Pokémon you are physically moving. This can have a pretty major effect in that sometimes you can be making two matches, but if you move the evolved Pokémon first it can cancel out the other match by making one of the parts of it disappear as part of its skill.
Anyway, that may or may not be helpful. It may not even be true, but I've played around a bit and I'm almost certain that it's the case.
Basically, as far as I can tell, if you switch two Pokémon and make two matches at the same time, the one you moved with the stylus counts as the first in the chain, and the one that you switched with counts as the second in the chain - even though they actually move at the same time.
What this means is that if you're switching two Pokémon to make a match of three and a match of four, you need to be moving the Pokémon in the match of three so that the match of four counts second and you get more points for it than if you'd done it the other way round. Also, if you've got stronger Pokémon, you need to be moving the weaker Pokémon so that the stronger ones get a bigger boost by being second in the combo than the weaker one would.
This quirk also works in other areas. For example, if you've got two Pokémon with abilities, only the Pokémon you physically move will trigger, as far as I can tell. And if you've got a Pokémon evolved, it will trigger either before or after the other match you make at the same time depending on which of the Pokémon you are physically moving. This can have a pretty major effect in that sometimes you can be making two matches, but if you move the evolved Pokémon first it can cancel out the other match by making one of the parts of it disappear as part of its skill.
Anyway, that may or may not be helpful. It may not even be true, but I've played around a bit and I'm almost certain that it's the case.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
You actually nailed the mechanic. Ability activation depends on only the Pokémon that is being physically moved to begin a match.
In fact, for activation and matching order, the one that got dropped by the stylus always come first.
toythatkills
Member
Yeah, I noticed it for Mega Skills right away, but I wasn't really sure how it affected abilities and points scoring and stuff. The more I played around though, the more it seems to make a pretty huge difference which Pokémon you physically move.
It seems insignificant, but it's worth making sure you're doing things the right way around - especially if you've been having trouble with a stage. If I'm right, it can be worth hundreds of points at the end of a 15 move stage. So yeah, there it is, just in case people hadn't noticed those little details!
Hooray! A fortunate catch on Froakie just finished off my captures, so I now have all 185 Pokemon currently available! I'll keep up with the dailies and do the check-ins+weekend Meowth for coins, but I'm effectively done for now once again! (Not going to bother putting in the effort to get all the S-ranks on these new stages, especially as I suspect some would essentially need coins to be doable...)
toythatkills
Member
But what if there's another Pokémon after Mewtwo?
Robin64
Member
toythatkills
Member
I really like those 15 second stages. They actually feel more doable than the longer ones because you only have to focus for a short amount of time, there's less time for you to mess up in.
I thought they were gerbils.Bears? Thought the argument was always dogs vs cats.
It's dogs
Edit: And I just went into Raikou stage blind. That was bad.
I meant to type "beasts"Bears? Thought the argument was always dogs vs cats.
It's dogs
DAMN autocorrectYea I prefer the 15 second ones too, they're the only ones I can really do consistently.
Blackquill
Member
It's actually the best mega...
You just need to have enough Slowbro in your grid and use him when there is more than ten of them.
I S-ranked Zoroark ages ago and I still can't catch it
I've given up on it. I did manage to catch Raikou though! That makes Sceptile, Swampert and Raikou today. Awesome! Gonna try Suicune next
Caddywompus
Member
Optimize just selects your most power types for the match. You have to take into consideration abilities and which Pokemon are worth leveling up. I caught Scyther before Scizor both have the same abilities but Scyther is stronger cause he was on my team longer but I don't see the point of leveling him up when Scizor will eventually have a Mega Stone. Same goes for your Mega Gauge filling Pokemon, Jolteon was at level 4 for me til Dedenne came around with a base power already at 60, Dedenne is at lvl 5 now but if someone new comes along with a base power of 70 he'll get kicked to the curb. But I'll have to manually do the kicking when I Optimize.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
I believe the first 12 rows are actually fixed, so there's two moves that you probably should always do at the beginning.
Robin64
Member
Which moves?
Cute Dragon Here
Member
You should be able to make two T-shaped matches with your own support Pokémon in the first turn, and there should be another T-shaped match (5 rows tall, two columns to the left) for Farfetch'd in the second turn.
After the first few rows, though, the Pokémon are randomly generated. You might clear it in 2 turns if you end up stringing a super combo with these two moves.
S-rank clear is 5 moves remaining minimum. That will give you a coin toss, or slightly less, chance. Clearing with 8 remaining gives you about 75%.
TheSlySoul
Member
Robin64
Member
I think only moves left matter when it comes to catch % and rank. Score is just an extra that seems to do nothing.
TheSlySoul
Member
I think it depends on the Pokémon as well.
Sometimes moves means little others it is score.
Edit: I am talking out of my butt. Thought score contributed to the base catch %.
Robin64
Member
Each Pokémon has a base % catch, and then each move you have left over adds a set % to that too.
So an example Pokémon might have 5%, with each move left over giving 4% more. So finish with 5 moves left and you have a 25% catch chance.
TheSlySoul
Member
Ah, gotcha.
So overall does score contribute to anything but ranked battles?