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Pokemon Shuffle |OT| Every Day I'm Shuffling
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Barrylocke
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I do remember people were once saying Mega Gengar was bad when they got there. I guess people just needed to get the hang of him.
I'm not quite there yet though. I just got my butt kicked by Zoroark a few times. I think I can catch Dragonite with my party though, so I'm going for it right now. If I can catch Articuno too, I'm going to try my luck on Rayquaza.
I have no clue what I'm going to do with Keldeon though, especially as the deadline looms closer.
I'm not quite there yet though. I just got my butt kicked by Zoroark a few times. I think I can catch Dragonite with my party though, so I'm going for it right now. If I can catch Articuno too, I'm going to try my luck on Rayquaza.
I have no clue what I'm going to do with Keldeon though, especially as the deadline looms closer.
shadow2810
Member
Actually Mega Ampharos is the worst, the lightning is so random that it's not even funny.
Yeah. I'm trying to use it to beat Milotic, but it takes ages to build up, even with Dedenne on board, and the randomness of the effect just isn't helping.
Robin64
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TheSlySoul
Member
http://serebii.net/shuffle/pokemon.shtml
Dragonite (80) and Haxorus (70) would be your best choices.
Mega Amphros, Dragonair, Dragonite, and Druddigon pretty much.
You could try using a team full of Pokemon with Dragon types and the Dancing Dragons ability (increases damage done by any Dragon types in a combo).
Strange, mine haven't reset after the update.
ladyluthien
Member
Got Rayquaza pretty easily, Zorua was the one I was having trouble with for a couple days. Finally caught it at 27% whew! On to the next one!
Still need to catch Rayquaza on my PAL system.
Still need to catch Rayquaza on my PAL system.
yeah I can't beat xerneas at all.. he's the only one I haven't managed to eat even once :/
Really tempted to just use a complexity -1, but knowing my luck I won't even capture him..
Lone_Prodigy
Member
What's the best strategy for starting out? I'm at level 50 and I've just been plowing through since the Pokemon worth capturing are at the higher levels.
I also Optimize all my battles.
I also Optimize all my battles.
TheSlySoul
Member
Oh yeah you guys were right, Dancing Dragons wrecks Rayquaza. Too bad I missed!
Barrylocke
Member
Rayquaza's not hard to fight. I can at least get it down to about 10 turns left. I just need a lucky catch. I've been using Glalie (may try Altaria though to see how it compares), Articuno, Dragonite, and Azumaril, who I'll probably swap because lolOpportunist.
I still don't know what the fizzityuck I'm gonna do about Keldeon in time though.
I still don't know what the fizzityuck I'm gonna do about Keldeon in time though.
younglink7
Member
Mega Start, Disruption delay, and Extra Moves are your best friends for an S-rank. But, if you're at a level where you can't even beat the stage 3-4/5 times without these, perhaps just wait until you've gotten some decent 'mons later this week - especially Ampharos for this level.
Rayquaza is so much easier than Onix even with the disruptions. A lot of it comes down to if you have the right Pokémon at high enough levels though. But I was still able to beat it without fail on my old 3DS which is only up to Main Stage 95.
S ranking it is obviously much tougher than just beating it, but the disruptions aren't to the point of frustration.
I've finally got all the Main Stage Pokémon, that bloody Froakie probably took me almost 30 games to catch. At times I was cursing the game's RNG so much for consistently letting it escape, even with 20-30% catch rate. Finally got it with a 10% rate in the end.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Well, the number of shakes is a complete illusion anyway. It's a system with binary outcomes; there is no "almost winning," you either win or don't. Like slot machines. You can't "almost" win those either.
Barrylocke
Member
Ive been meaning to point this out. I often see people say "I almost caught it" or "Damn it it got to 3 shakes that time!". It really doesnt seem to mean anything in this.
Try holding down b as hard as you can to increase your chances at capturing him.
My remark was less about how it breaks out in terms of how "close" I get, and more about how it's dealt the same version of the "fail" outcome for about ten games now and counting. I fully understand how the animations are just there to provide flavor to a luck-based outcome; I'm just making a jab at how peculiar the RNG has been on me with this stage.
Going into more detail: Caught Rayquaza with 16 turns left, team of Altaria (mega), Glalie, Azumarill, and Slurpuff. No items. Guess the RNG was with me that time because I just kept getting continued combos whenever I made my moves.
I thought it was rapidly press A?
Nah, you hold down on the d-pad, then press and hold B right as the ball snaps shut.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
S-ranked all 165 stages and captured everything with 38 hours on the clock exactly.
I'm freeeeeee!
(no I haven't noticed the undiscovered 17 mons and 3 Mega Stones in the Pokemon List yet, shhhhhh)
I'm freeeeeee!
(no I haven't noticed the undiscovered 17 mons and 3 Mega Stones in the Pokemon List yet, shhhhhh)
TheSlySoul
Member
Well I am stuck at Zoroark. Any tips would be nice.
Mega Lucario wrecks it.
But not when he blocks the two center columns... (I'm trying to catch him and even with an S Rank I can't do it T_T)
Well in the mainline Pokémon games, the game actually makes a decision at each shake whether the Pokémon should break out or not. Do we know the actual logic process for catching Pokémon in this game, or are we basically just guessing?
Conrad Link
Member
Stuff you Keldeo.
Can't even beat him, let alone capture him!
Can't even beat him, let alone capture him!
Stuff you Keldeo.
Can't even beat him, let alone capture him!
Same here. I even went for a mega start and +5 on one, and not even close.
Japanmanx3
Member
Man besides EX stages I can catch anything on the Special side...missed the Mega Lucarionite tho because I didn't have a good team at the time. But Ampharos of all things really has it out for me...20+ moves left and no capture...great ball on top of that at 84%...no capture...threw my n3DS...
I really wish it was easier to catch EX mons tho...they are ridiculous...
Into a soft pillow on my bed...then I wept silently...
I really wish it was easier to catch EX mons tho...they are ridiculous...
Cute Dragon Here
Member
I think I'll probably spend the wait for new stages with getting more EX Pokémon before Mewtwo.
I think I got it at the first try with M Lucario at 40-50 %, maybe more.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Does it? I always thought it was determined as soon as you threw the ball. That's interesting; it gives more credence to the "almost made it" text in the games.
Yep, there are four calculations for it.
One when you throw the ball, then one after each shake. If it passes the calculation, then it moves to the next.
Critical capture halves this and just has the initial and a single shake.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Do note that the shake check as we know it really started in Gen 3; Gen 2 fudged shake checks only on failure and Gen 1 didn't really do anything like that at all.
Also, in Gen 5, there are only three shake checks; Gen 6 returns it to four, but the formula is tweaked so that you'd get the same overall probability as Gen 5. (Due to this, catch rates in Gen 5+ are likely to be higher under the exact same conditions)
And, finally, to correct one bit: critical captures always result in one shake check being conducted. The first shake always occurs in such captures. Note that the above "tweaked formula" property causes CCs to be more effective than it was in Gen 5 because it skips 75% of the checks instead of 66.7%.
I'm inclined to believe that the shakes in this game are operating on a combination of listed percentage, skew towards 50%, and some Gen 2-style shake checking for failures...
Barrylocke
Member
Either way, unless the shake mechanic is in which would potentially mess with the actual listed percentages, I don't really pay much attention to shakes here beyond flavor.
toythatkills
Member
S-ranked all 165 stages and captured everything with 38 hours on the clock exactly.
I'm freeeeeee!
(no I haven't noticed the undiscovered 17 mons and 3 Mega Stones in the Pokemon List yet, shhhhhh)
I guess everyone's stats are doing this. How have we caught more Pokémon than we've played stages?
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
I would guess that the temporary Special stages are not permanently reflected in those stats.
I think I got all the daily pokemon then since its repeating now.
I still can't beat haxorus because I don't know the trick to it.
My life has been a lie.
I still can't beat haxorus because I don't know the trick to it.
My life has been a lie.