Byakuya769
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It's more prevalent. And the military feeds into it. Got to try and help the guys that like to give commanders a chance to shine.
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It's more prevalent. And the military feeds into it. Got to try and help the guys that like to give commanders a chance to shine.
Good god... this is getting just silly. I mean either Romney's team just doesn't give a fuck about the truth, or they're just that dumb and lazy that they can't pick out people that don't have these hangups. Is it really that hard to find someone that didn't get a ton from the government? Or maybe it's really telling that he can't... Perhaps that means most businesses do.
You know... I would support this. Not because I think we need a ton of gun control or anything (I'm actually pretty open on gun rights), but because I fucking hate starting a conversation and having one half of it be "Well, it's our right in the constitution," and then nothing gets said. Half the conversation just ends there.
Well we need real gun law reform. Especially around the sale of firearms.
empty vessel
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That's necessary now that the Supreme Court has misinterpreted it into a provision granting the right to kill American citizens.
Absolutely. Effective gun control is sorely imperative. And an integral component of an effective gun control policy would restrict handguns. Prohibiting assault weapons should be obvious. Still, handguns are used in the preponderance of homicides. If we do not restrict access to handguns, the problem will persist.
speculawyer
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Such projection. Kinda like when you took Obama quoting McCain and used it in the ad to make it look like Obama was saying what he was actually quoting. And when you took the 'you didn't build that' sentence completely out of the context by eliminating the previous sentence about roads & bridges.
Edit . . . BTW, what did Dems take out of his current release tax forms and 'distort'? There is no distortion needed . . . all you have to do is point out that he makes $20Million and pays a lower Fed tax rate than a school teacher. No distortion, that's just reality.
speculawyer
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Well, I wonder how the Telegraph will handle this. Will they release the name of the supposed advisor that said that? Will they back off? BTW, the Telegraph is a conservative-leaning paper so it can't just be written off as a liberal-smear job.
speculawyer
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The old 'gateway drug' theory. And worry about the Soviets. Romney somehow manages to act older and more square than McCain.
Yeah... I mean marijuana isn't really an issue I personally care about at all. I've never done the stuff and likely never will (though who knows, I guess). Still, I hate seeing people with really hard lined stances on things like that. I think the discussion on our drug policy should at the very least be pretty nuanced. The fact that he's just saying it's all bad, and that he'll fight "tooth and nail" against it, even medical stuff, seems really out of touch to me. Also a really silly phrasing when you consider a lot of the energized section of the republican party nowadays was Ron Paul supporters. I guess he's not even trying to court them in the least.
Hail to the king, baby.
Aaaand there goes the GOP's only chance of winning the youth vote.
It really makes no sense for them to oppose it.
I... wh... what? What was Beck's response to that? Did he even bat an eye? I'm really curious now.
It's not as though the Obama Administration has been lax on medical marijuana.
Watch it all.
Dude goes full Bachmann.
And that my friend, was for a short sweet moment the great white hope of the GOP.
PhoenixDark
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like Obama?
I think it makes perfect sense when you acknowledge that his religion is against most drugs like that, even caffeine. I don't agree, but I think its understandable why he would think that way.
What do you know, looks like they just shut down a bunch of stores in California. This article is a pretty good read guys!
The beauty of this is that it perfectly encapsulates that the message is weightier to these idiots than the facts. They simply haven't ever bothered to think about what they're spewing. It is simply enough that Obama/Clinton whatever is in charge. Fuck the other team. The other team is subhuman evil filth. Why? Doesn't matter. Other.
I wasn't bringing it up as some sort of point of difference, just as a "hey Romney said this, make of it what you will" sort of thing. I know vaguely that Obama hasn't been good on the marijuana front either. Has he really fought medical marijuana though? I'm curious. As I said before, it's not really a political point I follow or am invested in much at all.
I don't remember who, but I could have sworn some GOP congressman or Governor said during the GOP debates that the Republican party has strayed off the path, and a third party needed to come about, I could be crazy though.
What I want to know is when did this all happen? I have relatives who talk of what seems like a GOP with ideas that make sense, for the most part. who started all the us vs them mentality? I mean I know its always been around to a degree, but its just gotten so bad in recent years...
Jon Huntsman - The sanest one in the primaries this year
The us vs them mentality seems (to me) to come from the news as entertainment field. Fox News, talk radio, and lately channels like MSNBC have all contributed to that sort of thing. On top of that, the congress and the country gets more polarized as inequality goes up.
Fox News is pretty terrible, but didn't Fox News come about because of a pretty big left slant in the Media? Or if not really big, a noticeable slant. Then other networks like, CNN sort of drifted back into the middle of things?
A lot of it seems to start rearing its ugly head with the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and the political witch hunt that followed.
NullPointer
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The GOP motto.
He and the DOJ have closed down dispensaries despite them doing everything above board. Maybe Obama isn't cracking down on them as much as he could, but he's still no friend.
I don't smoke at all, but legalizing pot has immense advantages and no downside other than what already exists with cigarettes and alcohol. It's kept illegal mainly through corporate interest.
Fox news started by Rupert Murdoch, who did want an answer to CNN's "left wing slant," and he put Roger Ailes, a former Republican Party strategist, in charge. He was a man who always had a problem with the media and wanted to cut out the middle man, in a way, between candidate and audience.
This is a pretty interesting (and long) read on Ailes and Fox News
Yeah, I know that stuff. I do personally think it should be legalized. It's just not something that I'm as passionate about right now. Maybe I'm wrong for not being passionate about it...
speculawyer
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http://news.yahoo.com/3-hospitals-wipe-limit-medical-bills-colorado-movie-004009848.html
So we have one party that (occasionally) tries to reduce guns and successfully passed a bill to get more people healthcare.
And the other party is committed to allowing anyone to buy any gun any time and campaigns on repealing the program that has got more healthcare out there.
I just find it a bit mind-boggling that so many people actually think more guns and less healthcare is the way to go. That is what we really need . . . more guns and less healthcare. Healthcare is the shitty thing to have . . . we need more guns. Go Figure.
NullPointer
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We shouldn't have to be passionate about it to overturn the criminal prosecution of those who cultivate or distribute or partake of this almost completely harmless weed that anybody can grow on their own. It'd make more sense to criminalize caffeine.
Its a low hanging fruit and its fucking shameful and backwards and against any conception of liberty that we go to such lengths to demonize it.
It honestly pisses me off that this is even an issue.
speculawyer
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Normally, I'd dismiss something like that as a silly conspiracy theory. But it turns out that a major funder of the against some pot legalization referendum was beer companies and beer distributors. Gotta fight the competition I guess.
http://www.republicreport.org/2012/...sts-are-getting-rich-off-of-the-war-on-drugs/
If only there were a gun that could heal wounds.
Wow... that's some fucked up stuff. Not just the beer companies being against it, but the police union stuff. I guess it makes sense, but still... really shameful, I must say. Lobbying to keep people behind bars and to lock more people up just so your paycheck is higher? Kind of sickening, really...
NullPointer
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I'm not passionate about it either since I have no interest in weed personally, but I think keeping it illegal is as downright stupid as denying gay marriage. All the arguments against it are just bullshit, but stupid and hateful people buy into them.
Prohibition created gang wars and career criminals, but people with vested interests clung to keeping booze illegal until things changes enough that their support base was completely broken. It's amazing how blind and selfish people can be when they can so do in a group.
Not just no, but the concept of a "liberal media" comes from Nixon-era with-us-or-against-us logic.
Step two is using this accusation to push your own ideology as a "balance".
NihonTiger90
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Which makes sense, since that's exactly where Ailes started. He was a strategist/propagandist for Nixon.
Agreed.
Ugh. The gains are so obvious from the parties in opposition, it's just disappointing. It reminds me of this loosely
a private prison management company is offering to buy prisons in exchange for various considerations, including a controversial guarantee that the governments maintain a 90% occupancy rate for at least 20 years (old)
On the weed note, I don't care about weed on a personal level (do I plan to use pot?), but it should be legalized.
Aaron Strife
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October surprise, decriminalizing marijuana
There's a new Romney ad targeting the African American community
And Romney had a gun flub today
Also, I found this slightly interesting:
And Romney had a gun flub today
Also, I found this slightly interesting:
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Romney's visit to London has been a total disaster - irritating everyone and everything. He just doesn't understand that we moan about things and are grumpy - it is just what we do. However someone not from here doing it - completely unacceptable and rude.
Wait, is this the next part of the conspiracy theory that the Colorado shooting was a government setup? Really, can you think of a more perfect scenario to both push for more restrictive gun laws AND universal healthcare? Be on the lookout, this is making the rounds:
It's what he does.
I'm just interested to see how long before it hits the mainsteam talking heads. Maybe it won't.
Infinite doors. Infinite clowns.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That's actually a good point. If he had good credit and lied about his income he could probably get a serious amount of credit really fast.
OK, let's talk about Obama planting veterans on campaign stops for "surprise" visits at diners to talk about healthcare:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...eterans-at-portland-diner-were-likely-plants/
Yeah, might not have been a good idea to have bios of the guys to give to the press pool on hand if you actually want to stage it as a surprise.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...eterans-at-portland-diner-were-likely-plants/
Yeah, might not have been a good idea to have bios of the guys to give to the press pool on hand if you actually want to stage it as a surprise.
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