Ben Nelson was more Republican than the Republicans that ran against him.
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Ben Nelson was more Republican than the Republicans that ran against him.
What?!
He is probably the most accurate political forecaster around, he rarely messes up and the times he does (by the slightest of margins) he is honest and shows why the error occurred and how he adjusts to compensate for it in the future.
I get that you think Obama is going to lose but there are other metrics to use, Nate's projections being false, irrelevant or inaccurate is not one of them.
Mitt Romney: Arab Spring Could've Been Avoided By Bush's 'Freedom Agenda'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/mitt-romney-arab-spring_n_1710038.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/mitt-romney-arab-spring_n_1710038.html
I don't listen to him as much, since he went on NYT, he's been writing way more words per story, and I don't like his writing. The site itself (538) doesn't present the information as clearly as it did prior to the move, and he said fucking Rick Perry was a lock. Basically I skim through his articles saying "yeah, yeah, where's the percentages?"
Guileless
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Estimates of drone strike deaths vary, but on the high end they are in the low thousands. You could also attribute deaths in Libya during the NATO action to Pres. obama's foreign policy if you were so inclined. That's not even counting deaths in Afghanistan from conventional military actions. I am sure we will begin to see reports about Iranian civilians starving or being denied medical care due to sanctions.
Either way, dumb billboard.
Black Republican
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i dont think brown will lose his senate seat too.
ClassyPenguin
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How can someone be this obtuse?
adamsappel
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DC isn't a singular market, though; it covers Maryland and Virginia, too. Maryland is another lock for Obama, but Virginia is hotly contested. However, I don't know anything about what ads they are running. Wow, I really don't watch much tv anymore.
LOL
*rubs eyes*
Wait, this is today? Mitt is so f'n resilient.
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it's from yesterday..still
Seriously. The last Republican that ran against him ran an anti-hunting ad against Nelson.
A Republican ran an anti-hunting ad against a Democrat
That is how Republican Ben Nelson is.
Why not? YOUR guys do it too.
cartoon_soldier
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The worst part is that why this makes no sense will be lost on the majority of public and media back home.
Black Republican
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early voting battle ground states dates :
Ohio will be really interesting
Ohio will be really interesting
Frank the Great
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lol didn't romney promise to not criticize barack on this trip?
cartoon_soldier
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Basically, as long as he criticizes him without taking his name, Media is good.
cartoon_soldier
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One, it is gallup.
Two, that is actually less than 2008 and 2004 for the Dem candidate.
gutter_trash
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LOL, this makes no sense!
I think Mitt has a fundamental misunderstand as to what the Arab Spring was...
PhoenixDark
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Obama fails quite well on his own, I don't have to root for it. He'll go down in history as an inconsequential one term president after republicans destroy the health care law and Romney rides a recovery into re-election
Oh you!
PantherLotus
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I think it is (or at least, eventually will be) an unpardonable foreign policy blunder to describe the Arab Spring as anything but a good thing, as hard as transitions have been -- even if that puts forces in power the US don't necessarily prefer.
gutter_trash
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freedom is not true freedom when it's done by grass roots revolts to overthrow US friendly dictators
CHEEZMO
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Dont you mean the Islamist Spring???
cartoon_soldier
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But the Muslim Brotherhood!
Republicans have made sure almost half the country thinks the Arab spring is bringing Al Qaeda back to power
The Technomancer
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Wait really? Please tell me that's not true, I'm pretty out of the zeitgeist on stuff like this.
RustyNails
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Exactly. He has absolutely no clue what happened in the past year and half.
Aaron Strife
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There you go again.
Rasmussen's wisconsin senate poll caught me completely off-guard: they have Tammy Baldwin leading Tommy Thompson by 7 (48-41). Eric Hovde actually comes closest at 45-42.
Their polls are bunk but I'll take one showing Baldwin up even if it's from rasmussen.
The foreign policy debate is going to be a glorious thing to behold.
How can you type health care, Obama and inconsequential in one sentence? Even if he were a one term president, and I suspect that as usual you're wrong, he'd still be the only black president, the most ambitious and successful in terms of health care and gay rights in history and the guy who got Osama Bin Laden. I know you hate him, but at least acknowledge he's important and consequential historically.
Then you can be wrong again later.
RustyNails
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Iran nuclear bomb Iran nuclear bomb Iran nuclear bomb Israel Israel Israel. That's your Miit Romney's entire foreign policy conversation during the debates.
PhoenixDark
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Because a Romney presidency would likely guarantee the law is gutted?
Aaron Strife
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I think that would say more about Romney's presidency than Obama's.
Congratulations, your biggest achievement was undoing universal healthcare.
That still doesn't make Obama inconsequential.
After first making it succeed in Mass, based on states rights, but using states rights to undo it everywhere else.
cartoon_soldier
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Just see how Eric Cantor defended Bachman.
PhoenixDark
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that most of the country doesn't support
gutter_trash
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I hope Mitt maintains this line of thought for the debates, can't wait for him to define the word "freedom"
Most of the country doesn't understand it.
cartoon_soldier
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If you followed the polls, you will notice that a lot of them don't want to repeal the law but make changes to it. That they all like the individual segments of the law, just don't like it when the law is put forward as a whole. That they don't believe the answer is, repeal and everything is good. That some of the opposition is also from people who don't think the law goes far enough.
Where is Romney's replacement law since he has pledged to repeal Obamacare on the 1st day? If Romney and GOP want to be responsible for 25 million Americans not having insurance because people are believing the lies they told them about it, so be it.
Aaron Strife
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If we're going by the polls than 56% of the country wants lawmakers to move on from the issue.
I'm going to make a bold prediction and say healthcare is here to stay. Sorry PD.
Actually that would be a good drinking game, take a shot every time he mentions nuclear bomb in Iran or Israel. It would probably result in liver failure two questions in.
What is it telling us, though? Perhaps they consider the race a lock? It's impossible to determine because of the paucity of data.
Wait, I thought the inane argument was the "freedom agenda" catalyzed the Arab Spring? Now it would have prevented its occurrence? Aside from the laughable notion that Obama abandoned democracy promotion, USAID-OTI, the MEPI, and other various programs all received funding increases, he's contradicting the arguments propagated by his ideological kinsmen. When he inevitably clarifies, I'm sure he'll predicate this on Obama's supposedly supine response to Iran's Green Revolution. And that will be a regurgitation of the tired criticism where Obama could have fixed everything with stronger rhetoric-an argument the redoubtable A27 lucidly explicated before he was banned.
For those who feared the thread would suffer from a lack of trolling after Kosmo's ban, no.
Romney's handle on foreign policy is an absolute disgrace, and I'm not even sure at this point whether the blame lies with his advisors or the candiate.
Condoleezza Rice and others from the Bush administration waxed long and hard about Bush's 'Freedom Agenda' being the impetus for the Arab Spring, and now the GOP is moving towards the line that Obama failed Israel by not following this 'Feedom Agenda' and allowing the AS to occur. It's so woefully disingenuous and childish.
Well he did pick his advisors, so he should get the blame for it. Frankly most of the things that have gone wrong for him so far shouldn't have blown up the way they did, a decent team would have cut most of this off at the pass. If this is the job the team to get him elected is doing, then frankly I'm a little worried what his team to run the country would look like.
RustyNails
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Yeah. Obviously, Romney's knowledge of the topic is negligible. But his advisers have been woeful failures. Really, team Romney is awful. Further, I think the difficulty stems from a broader dilemma confronting Republicans. After the repudiation of Bush's foreign policy, the party's platform has been rudderless. Any scholar with a modicum of intellectual credibility has abandoned the neoconservative dogma. The strident isolationist minority hasn't gained traction. There's little coherence and Romney's being forced to assert his policies. Effectively, he's having to lead. And he's failing.
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