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What an odd cover photo. Doesn't go at all with the accompanying text.
Mitt Romney told Jewish donors Monday that their culture is part of what has allowed them to be more economically successful than the Palestinians, outraging Palestinian leaders who called his comments racist and out of touch.
What an odd cover photo. Doesn't go at all with the accompanying text.
the problem isn't with the statement the Jews have been successful because of their culture. It's the comparison to the palestinians and complete ignorance of any history.While on paper rather disgusting, there is some justification in that isolated cultures, usually religious minorities, can be disproportionately successful. Jews are the classic example throughout history, but particularly in Weimar Germany where they dominated many of the upper echelons of the professional class. Similarly Philadelphia (and NE coast in general) saw very prosperous Quaker communities.
Obviously what he said is tasteless and highly undiplomatic.
juxtaposition.
I hate that word.
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-07-30/romney-courts-donors-before-leaving-israel
Throughout his presidential campaign, Mitt Romney has been running away from the individual insurance mandate in the Affordable Care Act even though a mandate is a cornerstone of the former Massachusetts governors health care reform law. If Im President of the United States, were gonna get rid of Obamacare and return, under our constitution, the 10th Amendment, the responsibility and care of health care to the people in the states, Romney said during a GOP presidential debate.
But during his trip to Israel, Romney inadvertently praised the individual requirement and universal health care. [F]or an American abroad, you cant get much closer to the ideals and convictions of my own country than you do in Israel, he said. And according to The New York Times, Romney spoke favorably about the fact that health care makes up a much smaller amount of Israels gross domestic product compared to the United States:
Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the G.D.P. in Israel? Eight percent, he said. You spend eight percent of G.D.P. on health care. Youre a pretty healthy nation. We spend 18 percent of our G.D.P. on health care, 10 percentage points more. That gap, that 10 percent cost, compare that with the size of our military our military which is 4 percent, 4 percent. Our gap with Israel is 10 points of G.D.P. We have to find ways not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to fund and manage our health care costs.
Israel spends less on health care because of a universal health system that requires everyone to have insurance.
Every Israeli citizen has the obligation to purchase health care services through one of the countrys four HMOs since government officials approved the National Health Insurance Law in 1995. People pay for 40 percent of their HMOs costs through income-related contributions collected through the tax system, and the state pays the remaining 60 percent. And by many standards, Israelis are getting better health care than U.S. citizens. The infant mortality rate is much lower, and its mortality rate due to heart disease is half the U.S. rate.
Orly Manor, dean of the Hadassah-Hebrew University Braun School of Public Health, said U.S. officials could learn a lot from the Israeli system. The quality is high, and the outcomes are good. And it seems that, following his trip to Jerusalem, Romney would agree.
The M1 Abrams tank has survived the Cold War, two conflicts in Iraq and a decade of war in Afghanistan. No wonder it weighs as much as nine elephants and is fitted with a cannon capable of turning a building to rubble from two and a half miles away.
But now the machine finds itself a target in an unusual battle between the Defense Department and lawmakers who are the beneficiaries of large donations by its manufacturer.
The Pentagon, facing smaller budgets and looking towards a new global strategy, has decided it wants to save as much as $3 billion by freezing refurbishment of the M1 from 2014 to 2017, so it can redesign the hulking, clanking vehicle from top to bottom.
Its proposal would idle a large factory in Lima, Ohio, as well as halt work at dozens of subcontractors in Pennsylvania, Michigan and other states.
Opposing the Pentagons plans is Abrams manufacturer General Dynamics, a nationwide employer that has pumped millions of dollars into congressional elections over the last decade. The tanks supporters on Capitol Hill say they are desperate to save jobs in their districts and concerned about undermining Americas military capability.
So far, the contractor is winning the battle, after a well-organized campaign of lobbying and political donations involving the lawmakers on four key committees that will decide the tanks fate, according to an analysis of spending and lobbying records by the Center for Public Integrity.
Sharp spikes in the companys donations including a two-week period in 2011 when its employees and political action committee sent the lawmakers checks for their campaigns totaling nearly $50,000 roughly coincided with five legislative milestones for the Abrams, including committee hearings and votes and the defense bills final passage last year.
After putting the tank money back in the budget then, both the House and Senate Armed Services Committees have again authorized it this year $181 million in the House and $91 million in the Senate. If the company and its supporters prevail, the Army will refurbish what Army Chief of Staff Ray Odierno described in a February hearing as 280 tanks that we simply do not need.
It already has more than 2,300 M1s deployed with U.S. forces around the world and roughly 3,000 more sitting idle in long rows outdoors at a remote military base in Californias Sierra mountains.
The $3 billion at stake in this fight is not a large sum in Pentagon terms its roughly what the building spends every 82 minutes. But the fight over the Abrams future, still unfolding, illuminates the major pressures that drive the current defense spending debate.
These include a Pentagon looking to free itself from legacy projects and modernize some of its combat strategy, a Congress looking to defend pet projects and a well-financed and politically savvy defense industry with deep ties to both, fighting tooth-and-nail to fend off even small reductions in the budget now devoted to the military a total figure that presently composes about half of all discretionary spending.
Romney praises Israel's Universal Healthcare System. Including the individual Mandate
OMFG, hahahahaha. This dude just doesn't stop. Bwhahahaha
And this guy thinks he can win? He's basically insulted every country he's visited at this point. Dear god, what is he going to say in Poland?
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-07-30/romney-courts-donors-before-leaving-israel
A single small facepalm pic? You're fine.Sorry, but there is nothing else to say to that. (I'm not gonna get banned for that right? I didn't see no facepalms in the FAQs or anything, but I figured I should check)
Romney praises Israel's Universal Healthcare System. Including the individual Mandate
OMFG, hahahahaha. This dude just doesn't stop. Bwhahahaha
To be fair, Mitt didn't specifically praise universal health care, he just praised the fact that they spend less for better health outcomes.Romney praises Israel's Universal Healthcare System. Including the individual Mandate
OMFG, hahahahaha. This dude just doesn't stop. Bwhahahaha
Romney praises Israel's Universal Healthcare System. Including the individual Mandate
OMFG, hahahahaha. This dude just doesn't stop. Bwhahahaha
Congress - and people in general, really - need to underestand that sooner or later, your work WILL become outdated/obsolete, and that goes for pretty much everyone in manufacturing and service industries.
that weapons system? Old and bloated.
That air traffic control system? doesn't fulfill the needs of modern air travel.
That car? Completely inefficient.
The sooner everyone realizes that when it's time to move on, it's time to move on, the better.
its another case of "we hate stimulus spending, unless its the military, then its not stimulus spending, its just the military"
Imagine had the federal government spent the billions from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on infrastructure. High-speed rail zig-zagging through the country, aging telecom and data lines replaced with fiber optics from end to end, roads as smooth as a baby's bottom, dilapidated housing projects from the 60's and 70's replaced with energy efficient buildings, etc.
Hell, a fraction of the military budget could have been used to feed the hungry and clothe the poor for years to come. How messed up are our priorities as a society?
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-07-30/romney-courts-donors-before-leaving-israel
Imagine had the federal government spent the billions from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on infrastructure. High-speed rail zig-zagging through the country, aging telecom and data lines replaced with fiber optics from end to end, roads as smooth as a baby's bottom, dilapidated housing projects from the 60's and 70's replaced with energy efficient buildings, etc.
Hell, a fraction of the military budget could have been used to feed the hungry and clothe the poor for years to come. How messed up are our priorities as a society?
This is only going to make him more endearing to the base.
Imagine had the federal government spent the billions from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on infrastructure. High-speed rail zig-zagging through the country, aging telecom and data lines replaced with fiber optics from end to end, roads as smooth as a baby's bottom, dilapidated housing projects from the 60's and 70's replaced with energy efficient buildings, etc.
Hell, a fraction of the military budget could have been used to feed the hungry and clothe the poor for years to come. How messed up are our priorities as a society?
Despicable fact of society. We are truly animals until we take care of our poor and sick.
You're right.Imagine had the federal government spent the billions from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on infrastructure. High-speed rail zig-zagging through the country, aging telecom and data lines replaced with fiber optics from end to end, roads as smooth as a baby's bottom, dilapidated housing projects from the 60's and 70's replaced with energy efficient buildings, etc.
Hell, a fraction of the military budget could have been used to feed the hungry and clothe the poor for years to come. How messed up are our priorities as a society?
This is only going to make him more endearing to the base.
You're right.
It's pretty messed up that we're the wealthiest country in the history of the world, and yet our domestic quality of life is well below other first world countries in a variety of areas. Health care, education, public transportation, energy infrastructure, environmental preservation, and the list goes on.
We used to tackle problems as a nation with a "why not?" attitude. Now, everyone's only concerned with their own self-preservation above the overall welfare of the nation.
Oh yeah, my bad.Teamwork? Last I checked America was built on individualism by individuals who never worked together or collaborated for the greater good
You're right.
It's pretty messed up that we're the wealthiest country in the history of the world, and yet our domestic quality of life is well below other first world countries in a variety of areas. Health care, education, public transportation, energy infrastructure, environmental preservation, and the list goes on.
We used to tackle problems as a nation with a "why not?" attitude. Now, everyone's only concerned with their own self-preservation above the overall welfare of the nation.
It's truly depressing to think about. People are more than willing to have ridiculous amounts of military waste yet the moment someone gets an extra hundred dollars of food stamps the world stops because someone is screwing over taxpayers.Imagine had the federal government spent the billions from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on infrastructure. High-speed rail zig-zagging through the country, aging telecom and data lines replaced with fiber optics from end to end, roads as smooth as a baby's bottom, dilapidated housing projects from the 60's and 70's replaced with energy efficient buildings, etc.
Hell, a fraction of the military budget could have been used to feed the hungry and clothe the poor for years to come. How messed up are our priorities as a society?
CHEEZMO;40435969 said:B-b-b-but rugged individualism is the American way, so it can't be bettered!!
Counterpoint: guns are cool and awesome, feeding poor people is boring.It's truly depressing to think about. People are more than willing to have ridiculous amounts of military waste yet the moment someone gets an extra hundred dollars of food stamps the world stops because someone is screwing over taxpayers.
Counterpoint: guns are cool and awesome, feeding poor people is boring.
"But if we cut the military budget, our country will be invaded instantly and the poor will have nowhere to live! We can't do that!"
--Republican
It's hilarious because geographically the US is probably the best positioned country in the world for defense purposes. The only way you could improve upon it would be if you put mountains around the perimeter.
Hmm.. there's a thread now on Romney's statement of Israeli culture being better. I really kind of think there should be one on his praise of the healthcare system in Israel. Think that'd be too much Romney for OT?
What an odd cover photo. Doesn't go at all with the accompanying text.
Sure thing.A single small facepalm pic? You're fine.
Hell, that story deserves two.
Wrong. That makes us Capitalist.
No only is Israel's healthcare universal, it's also severely underfunded, so he's off point twice.Romney praises Israel's Universal Healthcare System. Including the individual Mandate
OMFG, hahahahaha. This dude just doesn't stop. Bwhahahaha
Health officials, including Medical Association Chairman Leonid Edelman, claimed that the health system is missing NIS 9 billion in public funds. "These are not required to provide Israeli citizens with a grand health system but to provide the basic care stated in the State's laws."
The signatories further claimed that Israelis spend more on private health care than in any other country providing its citizens with national health insurance.
"We feel the pain of those patients who are forced to wait hours, days and months for vital medical care and feel the frustration of the doctors, nurses and other staffers who are unable to administer the medical care they have been trained to give."
The AJA is as follows:
The White House provided a fact sheet which summarizes the key provisions of the $447 billion bill.[15] Some of its elements include:
Cutting and suspending $245 billion worth of payroll taxes for qualifying employers and 160 million medium to low income employees.
Spending $62 billion for a Pathways Back to Work Program for expanding opportunities for low-income youth and adults.
$49 billion - Extending unemployment benefits for up to 6 million long-term beneficiaries.
$8 billion - Jobs tax credit for the long term unemployed.
$5 billion - Pathways back to work fund.[15]
Spending $50 billion on both new & pre-existing infrastructure projects.
Spending $35 billion in additional funding to protect the jobs of teachers, police officers, and firefighters
Spending $30 billion to modernize at least 35,000 public schools and community colleges.
Spending $15 billion on a program that would hire construction workers to help rehabilitate and refurbishing hundreds of thousands of foreclosed homes and businesses.
Creating the National Infrastructure Bank (capitalized with $10 billion), originally proposed in 2007, to help fund infrastructure via private and public capital.
Creating a nationwide, interoperable wireless network for public safety, while expanding accessibility to high-speed wireless services.
Creating additional regulations on businesses who discriminate against hiring those who are long-term unemployed.
Loosening regulations on small businesses that wish to raise capital, including through crowdfunding, while retaining investor protections.
In total the legislation includes $253 billion in tax credits (56.6%) and $194 billion in spending and extension of unemployment benefits (43.4%).[15]
So yes, only $35B is specifically earmarked as state and local level public sector jobs, but if you think any state can take on ~$1B (each state's share of the $50B) in infrastructure overhauls, over $0.5B in school and community college overhauls, and the various other infrastructure projects in the AJA without:
1. needing to expand their own regulatory workforce
and
2. freeing up resources already committed to those infrastructure projects and the like that can then be turned back to the already cut public services
Then you're being rather obtuse.
The fact that it's over half tax cuts is dumb, but the ~$200B that isn't is going to the right kinds of things.
I would assume that's how much they spent on buying spots to air the ad.Super PAC Touts Romneys Olympics Leadership With $7.2 Million Ad Buy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdWyxXBQvyM&feature=player_embedded
They spent that much on that ad?
the problem isn't with the statement the Jews have been successful because of their culture. It's the comparison to the palestinians and complete ignorance of any history.
it's dog whistle politics for racists anti Muslim voters. That Muslims are by their very nature incapable of being successful by themselves. They need to west to teach them. See his comments about the bush's freedom agenda the other day.
Imagine had the federal government spent the billions from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on infrastructure. High-speed rail zig-zagging through the country, aging telecom and data lines replaced with fiber optics from end to end, roads as smooth as a baby's bottom, dilapidated housing projects from the 60's and 70's replaced with energy efficient buildings, etc.
Hell, a fraction of the military budget could have been used to feed the hungry and clothe the poor for years to come. How messed up are our priorities as a society?
Super PAC Touts Romneys Olympics Leadership With $7.2 Million Ad Buy
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/super-pac-touts-romneys-olympics-leadership-with-72
They spent that much on that ad?