Yeah, it's a boon for the near term. Buy beyond his reelection, the prospect of the eurozone recession intensifying remains a ghastly specter. But that's a problem for his second term.
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lol, looks like the Wisconsin Senate race could be a mini version of the Presidential race
Apparently Hovde is getting called out for not releasing his tax returns, for using loopholes, and he's even got a holdings fund based in the cayman islands.
Apparently Hovde is getting called out for not releasing his tax returns, for using loopholes, and he's even got a holdings fund based in the cayman islands.
yeah, that was the main point, it was a boon for his re-election. The shit will hit the fan end of this year, early next when Greece finally decides to exit/gets kicked out
RustyNails
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thezerofire
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I miss Bloom CountyFor the VP my money is on
Ghost_Protocol
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OK, gotta admit, this one made me laugh.
This might be the first republican/conservative jab at Obama that's legitimately funny.
Why's it a chocolate cake?
Why are the balloons gay?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
edit: Nevermind, might be in bad taste.
Dog whistle.
Why are the candles atheist?
Maybe we should privatize social security.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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It would be nice to have that money back in my check. Too bad only the Amish have an opt out and some people before some long past cut off date.
Porn star Jenna Jameson endorses Mitt Romney:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ndorsement_n_1737769.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Jenna Jameson said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ndorsement_n_1737769.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Can someone point me to economic data that shows spending cuts increase hiring?
I'm fairly certain there isn't.
Then put in Palin for Secretary of State!
empty vessel
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You can have that money back in your check and have the social security program at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive. The social security program prevents having to deal with the social problem of having many impoverished elderly people. There is no reason to end it.
empty vessel
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"Well because, if you take a trillion dollars for instance, out of the first year of the federal budget, that would shrink GDP over 5%. That is by definition throwing us into recession or depression."--Mitt Romney, a couple months ago.
PhoenixDark
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Nowhere in that article does it say there's a rumor about this. It's the author's opinion
RustyNails
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When Obama breaks even and crosses the number of jobs lost, Republicans will simply move their cutoff date to that period and claim Obama created only 20,000 jobs or so.
The Technomancer
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Favorite comic ever...
PantherLotus
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Black Mamba
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Because we saw the greatest growth ever after Bush's tax cuts.
Wait, no, it was the worst among all 10 post WWII cycles. Whoopsie
(also 12 million jobs with what europe is doing is so stupid no matter what type of dumb economics you subscribe to).
Yeah, but if you only take out $450 billion out of the federal budget with $300 billion in tax cuts for the wealthy and middle and lower class tax raises, THEN you'd see 12 million new jobs.
DUH. DON'T BE DUMB.
She can see Iran from here.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Honestly, it kind of disgusts me that politicians can say this type of stuff and so many people will actually believe them. I'm actually surprised more don't do it.
"Oh yeah, Mitt? Well if I'm president I'll bring in 20 million new jobs! In your face!"
Spending cuts worked in the UK.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...-prepares-to-file-lawsuit-against-holder?lite
Keep fucking that chicken.
PantherLotus
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The McCain rumor, if true, makes me think the Romney camp thinks his campaign is in trouble. Admits a weakness on foreign policy at the very least, but at worst could indicate that nobody is taking Romney seriously.
Ironically, it would be the equal and opposite reaction of picking Sarah Palin. Rather than looking like a poor decision maker, Romney would look smaller next to 5-foot-nothin' McCain, overshadowed in both wisdom and experience. Like a nicer Dick Cheney.
Ironically, it would be the equal and opposite reaction of picking Sarah Palin. Rather than looking like a poor decision maker, Romney would look smaller next to 5-foot-nothin' McCain, overshadowed in both wisdom and experience. Like a nicer Dick Cheney.
Aaron Strife
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It sounds like he'd just be following in Kerry's footsteps.
But this time he'd actually go through with it.
South Dakota's congressional race:
Uh-oh, she's under 50. Another pickup for the Democrats
But this time he'd actually go through with it.
South Dakota's congressional race:
Uh-oh, she's under 50. Another pickup for the Democrats
Flying_Phoenix
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Technically there's Sweden. But they more do replaced spending cuts with government stimulus. Imagine if Obama balanec put the stimulus on the books.
TacticalFox88
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Harry Reid said:
Cold blooded. hahahaha
Damn, Reid just doesn't let up.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Romney insists he paid taxes every year
Talkingpointsmemo observantly wonders whether Romney can clarify that he's talking about income tax.
Talkingpointsmemo observantly wonders whether Romney can clarify that he's talking about income tax.
"Im happy to go back and look, but my view is Ive paid all the taxes required by law."
speculawyer
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Harry Reid as the bulldog. I didn't see that coming. He is the most mild-mannered guy. When he talks he sounds like he is quietly talking in library.
I've mentioned this before on GAF, but the principle still applies; if the only defense for your behavior (in any context) is that it's technically legal according to current law, then you're probably being obnoxious or unethical. If it were ethical and good in addition to being legal, then you'd make that argument instead.
If I go around calling most of the people I meet terrible names like "idiot" and "ugly," that is technically legal and I won't be arrested for it unless I hound a specific person relentlessly. If someone criticized this behavior, I could say "I have been as cordial and considerate as is required by law" in exactly the same way that Romney is now. If Romney's taxes were fair and appropriate in addition to being technically legal, I'm quite confident he'd make that argument instead of the legal one.
If I go around calling most of the people I meet terrible names like "idiot" and "ugly," that is technically legal and I won't be arrested for it unless I hound a specific person relentlessly. If someone criticized this behavior, I could say "I have been as cordial and considerate as is required by law" in exactly the same way that Romney is now. If Romney's taxes were fair and appropriate in addition to being technically legal, I'm quite confident he'd make that argument instead of the legal one.
Joe Shlabotnik
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It's all so weird, we're approaching immovable object/irresistible force territory here. I can't imagine why Romney would even try to run for President with a history of not paying any income tax. But I also can't imagine Reid would go so far out on a limb (with no one in the executive branch telling him to shut up) with no ground to stand on at all.
I honestly can't believe it could be close to true, and yet it seems like it has to be close enough that the political math still says it's better not to release the records.
I honestly can't believe it could be close to true, and yet it seems like it has to be close enough that the political math still says it's better not to release the records.
It probably is close enough to be true. I mean look at all we know already:
We know his IRA is beyond abnormally high
We know he has offshore accounts
We know he changed his residence to Utah in order to take advantage of a large tax credit on his house.
We know he's relentlessly said he has only paid exactly what he legally owes and literally not a penny more.
It's likely his move to New Hampshire was in order to escape some capital gains tax
and we know he's already lied about what's in his taxes when he was running for governor
It's obvious the guy is trying to pinch every penny he can when it comes to taxes. He's already got a crazy low rate, and that's on the year he will show us.
I'm not entirely sure why but I've been thinking its worse lately. Like maybe in addition to not paying anything in taxes he has been getting money back from the government.
The math on either side doesn't make sense unless either Reid is right or what I've posed above is somehow true. If Romney's rate was low but not zero he could destroy the dems credibility by releasing, but he still is not. And for Reid unless he knows he's right or its worse there is no way he triples down. The math just isn't there for this all to be nothing. It's gotta be bad, just a matter of how bad.
Your post is confusing. You may find it beneficial to preview your posts before submitting. Anyway, Sweden's a testament to the benefits of a robust social welfare system and aggressive monetary policy.
He probably paid sales taxes, property taxes, and excise taxes like everyone else with no skin in the game.
I don't think there's any veracity to the rumor. Really, it's hardly a rumor. It was simply the author's opinion that McCain would be a wise choice. I disagree. And I doubt he's been considered.
I don't know that he would "destroy" the dems if it's not at 0. If he releases it and it's at 4% he's still fucked. I mean think about that. He then has to proclaim at the top of his lungs "See, it's not 0. I'm paying FOUR PERCENT!" It's like having to argue that no you didn't kill that puppy, but you did kick quite a few times, and you also forgot to feed it... but you certainly didn't kill it! It's still going to be a problem.
cartoon_soldier
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Romney is not ashamed of anything. If we ever wanted a candidate who believed it is their RIGHT to be President, Romney is it.
One thing is accomplished: Media is not talking much about the job numbers again. Neither is Romney.
Manmademan
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The dems have nothing to lose here. There's no doubt in my mind that many people know what it is, through legal or not so legal means, and are calling Romney out because it's win/win to do so.
He could easily pivot it into tax reform though, closing loopholes and what not. "See this is how people can take advantage of the system and it needs to be fixed"
Who the help am I kidding, he wouldn't do that. I still do maintain if Reid isn't full of it, he's either on the money or its worse.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If he releases it and it's less than 15% he's screwed. I can't possibly imagine that going over well with independent voters.
Other than not being ashamed, the other thing is that he has no reason to believe it'd realistically hurt him much. He's spent his whole life in that bubble, getting away with that sort of stuff. He gamed the system in Massachusetts, too, in order to become governor when he probably shouldn't have, and he lied the whole time while doing it. When someone continuously gets away with something there's no reason to believe they'd think twice about going further.
Yeah there's no way he'd do that. Romney's whole presidency could be a great one based on his knowledge of the business world and how people get away with these things. He could campaign on knowing why businesses outsource and ending that. He could campaign on knowing the tax loopholes and ending those or fixing them. That's not what this guy is about though.
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