Hmm. I guess these guys could be wrong. Maybe they mean far away from it, but within view or something?
from the National Journal:
"@jimtankersley: VP announce will be made in front of the USS Wisconsin, per Romney camp"
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Hmm. I guess these guys could be wrong. Maybe they mean far away from it, but within view or something?
from the National Journal:
"@jimtankersley: VP announce will be made in front of the USS Wisconsin, per Romney camp"
Arrowgigantic
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The Wisconsin is decommissioned.
I like this pick. We can have Republicans navel gazing this loss for the next few years for having a candidate that was far too moderate that selected a VP who was far too much of a wing nut.
Which one cost the election more? And if greater scrutiny doesn't obliterate Ryan's standing as part of the 'intellectual' strand of congressional Republicans, me be sad panda.
Which one cost the election more? And if greater scrutiny doesn't obliterate Ryan's standing as part of the 'intellectual' strand of congressional Republicans, me be sad panda.
No, its along the lines of if you create a fully sentient artificial life that doesn't need us for anything and has full capability to reason then why would it waste it's time supporting us instead of creating and advancing it's own society?
There is a reason why so many movies center around the machines rising up and taking over. Its simple math, no sentient being wants to be a slave.
So he shoots himself in the foot? Having a bullet in your foot won't help you swim.
I think we're just operating from fundamentally different perspectives on what humans will do given extensive leisure. My experience is that people have an instinctive drive to be productive, and that it takes a lot of work on the part of society to take that away.
But, I mean, I definitely don't disagree with the idea that we should strongly encourage a work ethic. If anything, I think it'll be easier to do when we can encourage people to pursue field they want to, regardless of its profitability. I just assume that it's going to fail on some people -- and we should feed them anyway.
Ah, so it is. And at a private museum. Never mind then.
cartoon_soldier
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If it is Ryan, the rest of the campaign will be about the Ryan budget plan.
The helpful thing for Romney will be that the Media Absolutely Loves Ryan
The helpful thing for Romney will be that the Media Absolutely Loves Ryan
speculawyer
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Even if they love him, its hard to downplay his negatives ie the budget he proposed. Transvaginal ultrasound guy would be less toxic.
Either Portman or Ryan. I still think Portman because I don't think Romney is dumb enough to pick Ryan.
And I'm just saying that simply betting on that need to be productive is going to result in some really bloody revolts.
If you want a realistic transition to that kind of society you need to use the transition to greater automation as a transition from production to R&D, as a synchronized effort.
Then after a generation or two where it's normal for mom and dad to have a job doing whatever they find intellectually stimulating and productive we'll then have that as the norm and we won't need the social construct of "jobs" to keep people going. But you aren't going to remove the "job = pay" concept overnight or take away the hostility that equation inherently generates.
Considering that the Ryan Plan cost Republicans the fucking NY 26th, I can't see how this can be anything but a bad decision.
when it's announced
It's not official til about 9am.
Goddammit he had to pick tomorrow to announce it, didn't he? And Paul Ryan? I'm going to be home visiting with my family tomorrow. I don't want a huge argument with my dad who will likely be gobbling that guy's proverbial knob all day based on that announcement. Ugh. WHY!? Fuck you Romney!
Officerrob
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This has got to be leaked soon right?
Guess Norquist was right. Romney will do as he's told
NullPointer
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Oh shit. Romney's a Cylon isn't he.
cartoon_soldier
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Ben Smith puts it well
ErasureAcer
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What time is this going down tomorrow?
Officerrob
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An alternative that is very unpopular
Can't wait for Romney to flip-flop his VP pick and pick someone who is more popular.
NullPointer
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He'll retroactively nominate someone else.
TPM says the campaign confirms the announcement.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-to-announce-vp-pick-saturday-in-virginia
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-to-announce-vp-pick-saturday-in-virginia
speculawyer
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I think transvaginal guy would be pretty toxic. He is a bit of theocratic guy with a crazy thesis from the Pat Robertson university where he wrote this:
Thesis
McDonnell's 1989 thesis for Regent University[51] was a 93-page document titled The Republican Party's Vision for the Family: The Compelling Issue of The Decade. The document explored the rise in the numbers of divorces and illegitimate births, and examined public policies that may have contributed to that increase and proposed solutions. The document gained attention in the campaign because it outlined a 15-point conservative agenda, including 10 points McDonnell pursued during his years in the General Assembly, according to press analysis.[52]
This agenda includes opposition to abortion, support for school vouchers and covenant marriage, and tax policies that favor heterosexual families.[53] In his thesis, McDonnell wrote "government policy should favor married couples over 'cohabitators, homosexuals or fornicators.'"[54] McDonnell "described working women and feminists as 'detrimental' to the family."[54]
McDonnell "criticized a landmark 1965 Supreme Court decision" which legalized the use of contraceptives, writing that "man's basic nature is inclined towards evil, and when the exercise of liberty takes the shape of pornography, drug abuse, or homosexuality, the government must restrain, punish, and deter." McDonnell responded to the article, stating "Virginians will judge me on my 18-year record as a legislator and attorney general and the specific plans I have laid out for our future -- not on a decades-old academic paper I wrote as a student during the Reagan era and haven't thought about in years."[52]
cartoon_soldier
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Have we seen any polls on it?
Just think of the hilarity we would experience if he picked one of the other GOP potentials from earlier this year?
You know, as much as I don't like Romney, he really was one of the only sane picks, the other guys really make him look like a perfect candidate lol. I guess Jon Huntsman maybe on the same level but still...
I feel like Mitt Romney would be more likeable and have some better views if the Republican Party wasn't in such shambles...
I'm going to go ahead and guess Rubio? Just to be different I suppose
cartoon_soldier
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The Media sees Ryan as a proper budget wonk, even though his budget is like Romney's tax plan = they both can't do math.
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder if an OT thread should be made, considering this is big news?
cartoon_soldier
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My Aunt said Paul Ryan will win because people vote for good looking candidates. I was creeped out.
Tell your aunt, "Once you go black, you can't go back"
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