Dr. Pangloss
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That quote was from codhand.
The general sentiment though - that Romney was going to flail - was endorsed by most people in this thread.
I don't think you have a good grasp on what the overall sentiment was before going into the debate. I'll just quote some of my posts:
I don't think you have a grasp on how our media responds to presidential debates. When they give analysis they are not that open ended. What normally happens is that they present the two sides and point out where they think the candidates did a good job or bad. They don't talk about how a campaign is in shreds unless they already lean politically one way. That gives the impression that it is over. Also, Obama does have a higher bar. He is the president. He has to answer rightly or wrongly for what has happen in the last four years. All that is expect of Romney in the first debate is that he be competent and appear like he can be president. That is it. If there is any tightening in the polls afterwards, then the media is going to attribute it as a success for Romney. And I believe the polls are going to tighten. There is no way that Obama gets above 53 or 54 percent unless Romney has a complete meltdown.
Also, I think Obama is going to be very conservative in the debates. He is not going to stick his neck out. He'll just do average because he is ahead in the polls and doesn't really need to do anything.
Romney is going to be perceived as the winner of the first debate barring any major gaffe. It will be the first time he has been elevated to that position and will appear right next to the president himself. That alone carries weight with some. As also mention the bar for Obama to clear will be higher than Romney's own. More is expected of the man in charge. The question we should be asking is he going to do something dramatic to shake the race up?
The question in that last quote is the one we should be asking and not who won the debate. Has Romney actually done anything to change the overall trajectory of the race? My answer would be no. I could get what Romney was selling tonight from any 24-hour news channel with a Republican surrogate. The only difference was that he had to say that to Obama's face. But what he said will not have the level of impact on non-partisan voters as some claim.