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PoliGAF 2013 |OT2| Worth 77% of OT1

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Tamanon

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Cloudy said:
Tech companies coming out and denying the WaPo PRISM story. Either the feds are going behind the internet companies to tap their data (Why and how?), someone is going to be making a big retraction over this PRISM story. Either way, there will be a huge shitstorm..

I am so sick of this scandalmongering and faux outrage over EVERYTHING these past few months. NSA getting metadata under FISA is totally different from NSA wireless wiretapping. Conflating both issues is patently dishonest.

Where were all these media members when these laws were being passed in 2001?
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Tech companies have to deny it, but it's probably going on. Maybe this'll lead to the repeal of the PATRIOT act finally(yah, right). Especially since all this is done exactly within the letter of the law and with the proper amount of Congressional Oversight.
 
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speculawyer

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Cloudy said:
Tech companies coming out and denying the WaPo PRISM story. Either the feds are going behind the internet companies to tap their data (How?) or someone is going to be making a big retraction soon. Either way, there will be a huge shitstorm..

I am so sick of this scandalmongering and faux outrage over EVERYTHING these past few months. NSA getting metadata under FISA is totally different from NSA wireless wiretapping. Conflating both issues is patently dishonest.

Where were all these media members when these laws were being passed in 2001?
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Two things turn GOPers into defenders of civil liberties: (1) Being charged with a crime; and (2) a Democrat in the White House.
 
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Cloudy

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Tamanon said:
Tech companies have to deny it, but it's probably going on. Maybe this'll lead to the repeal of the PATRIOT act finally(yah, right). Especially since all this is done exactly within the letter of the law and with the proper amount of Congressional Oversight.
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If they deny it AND it's true, that means the feds are somehow tapping into their systems. That is worse than working with them IMO
 
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Tamanon

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Cloudy said:
If they deny it AND it's true, that means the feds are somehow tapping into their systems. That is worse than working with them IMO
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No, it would just mean that the companies are lying when they deny it. They'll deny it to preserver customer's opinions of them, but it wouldn't be happening without their knowledge. It's too hard to get that amount of data surreptitiously.
 
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Piecake

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Black Mamba said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/richard-galanti-wages_n_3396101.html

http://www.businessweek.com/article...the-cheapest-happiest-company-in-the-world#p1

<3 Costco
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Not sure why anyone would listen to Wall Street for business advice. They only give a shit about your short term stock price, not the long term health of the company. Fuck, just look at wallmart. they pay their employees dick, dont hire enough employees, and are now struggling to even get product into their store from their warehouse. They are losing customers because of it
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
From that wacko Lt. Gov nominee from Virginia:

“We live in the most interesting times in human history. These are the days spoken of in Scripture, the days of fulfillment. This is therefore an era of unprecedented spiritual activity on both sides as the conflict races to a head. Those who are in Christ are on the winning side. Part of what must happen during this period of great harvest for the kingdom of God is a massive wealth transfer. It is not going to happen by theft or governmental policy. It is going to happen supernaturally. Those invested in God’s market are going to reap a windfall. Make up your mind now to buy in.”
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So...God is a socialist?

Jackson finished law school, passed the bar, and then entered the ministry. Within a few years, he had left the Democratic party, partially under the influence of Ayn Rand’s writings.
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So he found Jesus by reading a book authored by an atheist.

Sounds about right.
 
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speculawyer

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican-controlled House voted Thursday to resume the deportation of hundreds of thousands of immigrants brought illegally to the United States as children, a largely symbolic move in the first immigration-related vote in either chamber of Congress this year and a measure of the daunting challenge facing supporters of a sweeping overhaul of existing law on the subject.

The party-line vote of 224-201 was aimed at blocking implementation of President Barack Obama's 2012 election-year order to stop deportations of many so-called DREAM Act individuals. Democrats on the House floor reacted with boos when the provision was added to a routine spending bill for the Department of Homeland Security.
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http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-measure-deport-young-immigrants-213453305.html

Dat latino outreach.
 
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User 406

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Piecake said:
Not sure why anyone would listen to Wall Street for business advice. They only give a shit about your short term stock price, not the long term health of the company. Fuck, just look at wallmart. they pay their employees dick, dont hire enough employees, and are now struggling to even get product into their store from their warehouse. They are losing customers because of it
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A company with a good product or service can last a long time treating both their customers and employees well, but as soon as they do that IPO, it's the kiss of death. That benevolent founder/CEO has to retire someday, and then eventually it's all cutting pay, benefits, product quality, support, etc, whatever it takes to feed the mindlessly ravenous shareholder maw's appetite for short term stock growth.

I wouldn't call it a deal with the devil because there are some stories where the devil actually loses.


Those invested in God’s market are going to reap a windfall. Make up your mind now to buy in.
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I never imagined that "dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life" could possibly be out-cheezed.
 
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thepotatoman

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I need to stop browsing gaf with multiple windows so i can stop making accidental posts in the wrong place...

Anyhow while I'm here, this NSA stuff is the first thing that has really gotten me pissed off at Obama's administration since the whole wikileaks thing. It's pretty damn ridiculous how much information they feel entitled to and how little information they feel we are entitled to.
 
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Gotchaye

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Well, at least he didn't turn out to be a deep-cover Microsoft shill. Certainly my first thought given all the banning going on in Gaming right now.
 
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eBay Huckster

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man, why do i keep missing all the gaming-side shitstorms

(at least this time it was because i was out partying with the leader of canada's official opposition)
 
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The Librarian

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eBay Huckster said:
man, why do i keep missing all the gaming-side shitstorms

(at least this time it was because i was out partying with the leader of canada's official opposition)
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I was an Xbox gamer this generation, but with the way things are going it looks like I'll be a Nintendo gal this generation. Pikmin 3 is looking awesome.

Can't even play single-player games unless I have an internet connection? Ridiculous.
 
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el retorno

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Dax01 said:
I was an Xbox gamer this generation, but with the way things are going it looks like I'll be a Nintendo gal this generation. Pikmin 3 is looking awesome.

Can't even play single-player games unless I have an internet connection? Ridiculous.
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No PS4?
 
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bananas

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Dax01 said:
I was an Xbox gamer this generation, but with the way things are going it looks like I'll be a Nintendo gal this generation. Pikmin 3 is looking awesome.

Can't even play single-player games unless I have an internet connection? Ridiculous.
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Just build a PC. Join the master race.

vote republican
 
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oni_saru

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Cloudy

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http://www.politico.com/politico44/...tapping-not-directed-at-americans-165639.html

The Obama administration responded to reports Thursday that the National Security Agency monitored data from major internet companies with a defense of the practice, describing it as a key piece of its efforts to protect the country.

“Information collected under this program is among the most important and valuable intelligence information we collect, and is used to protect our nation from a wide variety of threats,” a senior administration official said in a statement.

The culling of information from companies including Apple, Google and Facebook, as reported Thursday evening by The Washington Post and The Guardian, involves “extensive procedures” approved by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court “to ensure that only non-U.S. persons outside the U.S. are targeted, and that minimize the acquisition, retention and dissemination of incidentally acquired information about U.S. persons,” the official said. The program is also overseen by the Executive Branch and Congress, which last reauthorized the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act less than six months ago.

The government can only use Section 702 of the law, the piece used to justify the so-called PRISM program, “to acquire foreign intelligence information, which is specifically, and narrowly, defined in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,” the senior administration official said. “This requirement applies across the board, regardless of the nationality of the target.”
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I guess this explains the meager $20 mil pricetag
 
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Frank the Great

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The culling of information from companies including Apple, Google and Facebook . . .
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i wonder why there is an uproar when the government collects information from these companies for security reasons, but everyone is 100% okay with giant corporations owning all sorts of our personal information that they use to make money with.

i just found this particular quote rather ironic, especially considering that i am at the moment editing a book on precisely the issue of corporations having all of our data.
 
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Jimothy

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I don't get why this thread is still so active even when virtually nothing substantial is going to happen for like the next 5 years except more gridlock. You're all masochists right?
 
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oni_saru

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Jimothy said:
I don't get why this thread is still so active even when virtually nothing substantial is going to happen for like the next 5 years except more gridlock. You're all masochists right?
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Well this is NeoGAF with the tagline "Believe". Guess we all want to believe that maybe, just maybe something substantial will happen.
 
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jamesinclair

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Jimothy said:
I don't get why this thread is still so active even when virtually nothing substantial is going to happen for like the next 5 years except more gridlock. You're all masochists right?
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Some of us were hoping the dems could take back the house next year.

But with all this shit the dems have pulled, its over.

At this point, a libertarian "get off our datas" party has more of a chance of taking the house than the dems do.
 
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Aaron Strife

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jamesinclair said:
Some of us were hoping the dems could take back the house next year.

But with all this shit the dems have pulled, its over.

At this point, a libertarian "get off our datas" party has more of a chance of taking the house than the dems do.
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It's easy, we just need 34 libertarians to run fully funded campaigns against Republicans in deep Republican districts and steal the majority away from them.

Out of principle they won't caucus with the Democrats, giving them the majority 201-200-34.
 
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Piecake

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Suck it again, Wisconsin!

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/gdp_state/gsp_newsrelease.htm
 
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Half and half

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Jimothy said:
I don't get why this thread is still so active even when virtually nothing substantial is going to happen for like the next 5 years except more gridlock. You're all masochists right?
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We should elect our Presidents every year to help keep things exciting.

I've been finding myself wandering into random threads in a fruitless search for action.
 
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speculawyer

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el retorno said:
No PS4?
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Do you really believe the PS4 will be much different? Maybe. Sony is even more desperate for money than MS. But that could work either way. Will Sony go with less DRM in a bid to get more customers? Or will Sony implement pretty much the same policy and hope it makes them more money from license fees? Could go either way. But right now, it looks like Sony has more impressive hardware spec so perhaps they'll go with the same DRM plan and fight it out based on specs.

ConsolePoliticsGAF
 
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