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PoliGAF 2014 |OT| Kay Hagan and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad News
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speculawyer
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I drew it in crayon this time
On a napkin? You are going too far.
And you lack the Al Franken ability to draw the United States.
Eh close enough.
NYCmetsfan
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Yup. That's our senator assisting with a kegstand at today's LSU tailgating festivities. That's gotta be worth a percentage or two, right?
I love Louisiana sometimes. I miss it and NOLA soooo soooo much
I still say this. Not really because I don't believe in god (I'm not an atheist) but just because its more inclusive, it feels really sectarian to say the under god part
WayneMorse
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PD are you gonna vote for Rick Snyder again?
PhoenixDark
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The Nerd is making it cool to be an accountant, how can I hate him
No, I won't vote for Rick Snyder this year.
RustyNails
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Is it because he shitcanned Detroit or any other reason?
Giant Panda
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How am I supposed to trust Snyder to run the state if he can't even give us proper widescreen campaign ads?
Aaron Strife
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Uh-oh, Snyder's lost the coveted PD vote. Schauer's got this one.The Nerd is making it cool to be an accountant, how can I hate him
No, I won't vote for Rick Snyder this year.
NYCmetsfan
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Is there really nothing on GAF for the 310,00 (probably closer to 350,000 or higher) marching for climate progress in NYC.
Lol climate change
WayneMorse
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I hate to be cynical, but it'll change absolutely nothing.
I drew it in crayon this time
bless u
NYCmetsfan
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Immediately no. But it's about building a movement. I've had the chance to speak to mickibben when he came to my class. He's thinking longer term and see these as the marches on civil rights in the 50s.
They've made climate change a litmus test on the left and had successes locally and statewide.
He's a smart guy and gets how change happens in america. The biggest issues is there isn't a lot of time left.
WayneMorse
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They couldn't even get an extremely watered down cap and trade bill (Waxman-Markey) through the Democrat controlled Congress in 2009, and cap and trade was even in the GOP platform in 2008.
Nothing substantive will get done until we have like 2/3rds Dem majorities in both houses of Congress so we can ratify Kyoto and other climate change treaties.
Nothing substantive will get done until we have like 2/3rds Dem majorities in both houses of Congress so we can ratify Kyoto and other climate change treaties.
Yup. That's our senator assisting with a kegstand at today's LSU tailgating festivities. That's gotta be worth a percentage or two, right?
THIS IS THE GREATEST POLITICAL PICTURE OF OUR TIME
jamesinclair
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I considered making one, but life is pointless
Oh well then may as well give up until that happens.
They are there ahead of the UN climate conference. It's important that they are there in large numbers and making their voices heard, to provide legitimacy and urgency to the arguments calling for action.
Also, 2/3rd dem majorities will likely include blue dog democrats who have no interest in penalising polluters. This change has to come from the bottom.
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NYCmetsfan
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Obama has done a lot with the EPA
Also to the bolded, this isn't the GOP doesn't believe it anymore, its just a signal of partisanship, they're not in power so they can just be opposed to things. There are a lot of stupid GOP congressman but there have been since time immemorial, they can still do things like the EPA, Clean Water Act, etc when political acts pressure them to doing it. Just don't expect them to credit dems or claim what they are doing is the same thing.
speculawyer
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Well there is a metric ton of stuff that the GOP supported which became toxic as soon as Obama suggested doing it.
Rockefellers, Heirs to an Oil Fortune, Will Divest Charity From Fossil Fuels
Good. And also glad to see people's activism paying off. Small steps.
edit: I believe that this is an initiative that Bill Mckibbon has spearheaded, keeping in line with what APKmetsfan was saying before about the long game.
Good. And also glad to see people's activism paying off. Small steps.
edit: I believe that this is an initiative that Bill Mckibbon has spearheaded, keeping in line with what APKmetsfan was saying before about the long game.
I want to do something about the environment, I just don't think cap and trade is the answer because I find the economic premise flawed when companies can just move it around. Also, I think the effects of a cap-and-trade system will trickle down to the poorest, and I'm more concerned about poverty than climate change.
The best answer is technology and incentives.
The best answer is technology and incentives.
PhoenixDark
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Mainly Detroit.
Although part of me feels like we'd be better off if he won, solely because Shauer literally won't accomplish anything as governor due to the extremist GOP congress. Everything will stagnate and he'll be hung out to dry in four years.
I was listening to NPR in the car a bit ago and they were talking about a flood of Syrian refugees into Turkey that were fleeing violence and it got me to thinking.
Whenever you hear of a mass of people moving across borders in say Africa or the middle East they are always called refugees. However, when various new sources and pundits and politicians in America talk about the flood of children from Central America coming across our borders to flee violence, they are called illegal immigrants. Very rarely does the news call them refugees.
I just think it's fascinating how just changing up a single word completely changes the context of the situation immediately when they are essentially the same thing.
Whenever you hear of a mass of people moving across borders in say Africa or the middle East they are always called refugees. However, when various new sources and pundits and politicians in America talk about the flood of children from Central America coming across our borders to flee violence, they are called illegal immigrants. Very rarely does the news call them refugees.
I just think it's fascinating how just changing up a single word completely changes the context of the situation immediately when they are essentially the same thing.
One usual difference is that war refugees don't necessarily have the intent of relocating to the target country, only to temporarily escape the combat/danger. That is largely different from US example where the children are often coming here to relocate and join family who are already here, and there is little if any desire to return.
I would be interested in knowing what the receiving countries think of the war refugees though. Does Turkish press, as the receiving location, look at them as refugees or immigrants?
Joe Molotov
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My Anaconda, Montana don't want none unless you're not a Muslim, hun.
Oh, nice. Good to see that, one again, Pirro comes off as a blithering idiot.
RustyNails
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So who is gonna lead the fight against ISIS when our President is a known muslin?
benjipwns
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They have a corporate structure!
Joe Molotov
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If you watched the video, you'd know that you need to personally take up arms against Sharia creep, along with your family and your supplies, preferably in a bunker somewhere in the American southwest.
Joe Molotov
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ISIS is known to use rap music to recruit young westerners. If your kids are listening to rap music, they're probably already a member of an ISIS terror cell.
As if on cue, BBC delivers:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29316294
Mixed responses at best. And that's in part because the situation is volatile and Turkish troops are also restricting some travel into Syria to presumably prevent support for ISIS. This alone makes it a wholly different situation from the US one.
WayneMorse
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Brownback campaign in Kansas going all out on the attack that Paul Davis went to a strip club once in 1998 because Davis was representing the owner of the club in court.
Jesus fucking Christ Kansas.
Jesus fucking Christ Kansas.
The RGA attacked the Dem here in South Carolina for being a defense attorney, also. It's not an unusual concept to attack.
Aaron Strife
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Kansas Republicans desperation continues
They also tried attacking Orman over a friend of his who ended up in prison and Orman handled his response like a boss. Just something like "he's a good friend of mine who did something very wrong, and now he's paying for it, everyone makes mistakes." It's refreshing to see that after so many "scandals" that end with the politician disassociating themselves completely with whoever they're being attacked over.
RustyNails
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Does rest of the state feel the same way? I mean if he hadnt bailed on Detroit, he probably could coast his way to victory methinks.
The shit going down in Kansas is breathtaking to behold. A ruby red state like that, and Brownback has managed to turn 100 of his own Republican allies in the state legislature against him. How the hell do you fuck up like that?
By actually doing what you campaigned on doing.
NYCmetsfan
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It really is stunning. Republicans have been adamant when it comes to supporting trickle-down economics at all costs. Even Republicans is less insane states like California or Massachusetts would sooner sacrifice their first born than raise taxes, and yet we have 100 fricken legislators in a state so conservative that even their local NAACP office has a confederate flag flying up front, have turned their backs on the teachings of the Lord Reagan.
It's arguably the most fascinating thing I've seen since I've been following politics.
thezerofire
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is there a place I can read up on all this?
Aaron Strife
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PPP: Shaheen leading by 6 in New Hampshire
Republicans still trying to convince everyone (and themselves) that it's a tossup
Republicans still trying to convince everyone (and themselves) that it's a tossup
So, like Pennsylvania every presidential election.
Aaron Strife
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And Michigan and Minnesota.
You know, Democrats have pie-in-the-sky fantasies about Texas all the time, but there's rarely any serious analysis that doesn't immediately temper its expectations by saying like "Texas could be blue in 2024" or something. Romney campaign people expecting to win Pennsylvania on election night was kind of pathetic.
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