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They make it seem like its super hard. If you have a true believer staffer I'd imagine you could get it easily. Its not hard.
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PoliGAF 2014 |OT| Kay Hagan and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad News
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Armoured Priest
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Medicaid was exempt, Medicare was not. Medicare providers took a 2% hit in payments.
This thing wants to extend that through 2024 (it was going to end 2023).
speculawyer
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I should expect this sort of thing by now.
Huh, I didn't know that. At least it's on the provider side and not the beneficiary's.
RustyNails
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Nancy Pelosi.
makingmusic476
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That's odd. I wonder why they're so unreceptive to Clinton.
Aaron Strife
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Polling in Colorado is wacky. Like Nevada it has a high population of Hispanics who don't respond to polls.
Obama led Romney by an average of 1.5 points in the polls in CO. He won by 5.4%.
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I think Biden will run, just to help Hilary win. He's going to pretend he wants to win and then say "alright Hilary is so much better, she's the best, let's vote for her!".
Might as well pretend your friend is your worst enemy, so your real enemies will lazy it out and back the friend who is really a friend and not an enemy. I think Biden would agree.
Republicans will fall for it.
Must have been Biden. Good way to push them to vote for the debt increase "There's a crazy guy threatening you! Don't let the crazies tell you what to do!".
Might as well pretend your friend is your worst enemy, so your real enemies will lazy it out and back the friend who is really a friend and not an enemy. I think Biden would agree.
Republicans will fall for it.
Must have been Biden. Good way to push them to vote for the debt increase "There's a crazy guy threatening you! Don't let the crazies tell you what to do!".
Would him running, rather than just endorsing Hillary right from the get-go, really be more beneficial for her?
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Well someone will run against her and will be hyped up by the media. Why let an actual contestant try to beat her? Might as well take all the attention. Flip flop, gaffes, yahoooooooo! and then "Go Hilary!".
theprodigy
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I don't think there really will be any actual contestants, just people building national profiles. My guess is this is a way more cordial primary than 2008, which was all kinds of claws out. Debates are going to be boring as shit because of it.
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thepotatoman
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Well even if you take off 4 percentage points that still puts Clinton neck and neck with Ryan and Paul, which goes against what people were saying about Colorado longer being a swing state.
It's beyond way too early for polling like this, the numbers we get now are absolutely meaningless. No one has actually started running yet, when they do I guarantee these numbers will look different. I'd make a bet of it.
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thepotatoman
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Of course. I'm just proving the possibility to get people to prepare themselves in case the democrat takeover doesn't manifest.
I see that here in Tennessee in some of the rural parts I go to. I mean the hate for "thug" culture. But its definitely not always a racial thing. It seems to stand for the meth/crack/drug culture which certainly affects all races and seems to be predominantly a white problem in rural areas.
WayneMorse
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/u...-this-year-lessons-for-2016.html?ref=politics
Why is Wisconsin letting Walker destroy the state, WHY?
Why is Wisconsin letting Walker destroy the state, WHY?
To be more precise, Latino voters are generally underreported by pollsters who don't offer a Spanish language option, which is basically all of them except Latino Decisions.
Armoured Priest
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Wisconsin's average age is rapidly becomming older. Pay is crappy compared to a number of other states, so younger people are fleeing the state. They remain here just long enough to get through college (the UW system is, for now, still a decent public Universtiy system). So we have rural voters (who tend to be older and far more conservative) becoming more and more powerful in state elections. The union busting and shift in manufacturing in this state didn't help matters.
If you look at the the original election vs the recall election...more people voted in the recall election. If the same number had voted, there's a good chance that Walker would have lost. There were a number of people who admitted that they didn't like Walker, but didn't think he'd done a bad enough job to warrent a recall. It didn't help that there wasn't a very good Democratic opponent for him.
PhoenixDark
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because their economy is doing well? get ready for Scott Walker, 2016 GOP nominee.
Aaron Strife
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PD do you just believe if you repeat something over and over it'll eventually be true?
Wisconsin's economy is positively below average.
You want a good economy, look at Minnesota. 4.6% unemployment, big surpluses, everyone has health insurance.
Armoured Priest
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It is? I live there and that's news to me.
WayneMorse
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Speaking of Minnesota how's Dayton looking for re-election?
Dayton being such a good governor would make him a good candidate in 2016 , but I think the reason he quit the Senate in 2006 was because of Washington politics so I'm pretty sure he'll never run.
NYCmetsfan
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We need better services for Spanish speakers.
I've had a few calls from consitutents that start with ¿hablas español? But in an exasperated tone like the expect the person not to be able to respond. Luckily im able to try and help them but so many are given the run around because we don't provide services in a language they understand.
Avon Barksdale
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No they wouldn't you idiot. Unlike conservatives, liberals have a slightly higher standard for impeachment than just "decomrats are poopyheads".
Also, here's another brilliant piece from him arguing about how on people like him are "true" christians:
http://www.redstate.com/2014/02/09/shibboleths-of-the-damned/
NYCmetsfan
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#standwithwindy in supporting what she fought against
If your gonna go with an artificial deadline have it be viability not a pseudo-scientific deadline
If your gonna go with an artificial deadline have it be viability not a pseudo-scientific deadline
Aaron Strife
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Nah I don't think he's cut out as a national candidate. He's got too much personal baggage (drug abuse, depression, divorce) which he's always been open about, but would weigh him down in a presidential level. He's also pretty old and I don't think particularly charismatic.
He's been an excellent governor and he'll probably be re-elected easily, but he was an awful senator. After Wellstone died he became very withdrawn and eccentric which only contributed to his personal issues and his approval ratings were catastrophically bad. He stepped down in 06 mainly so Klobuchar could hold the seat.
NYCmetsfan
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Workers try to Unionize in the South.
Carpetbaggers try to stop them
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/...ennessee-americans-for-tax-reform-103377.html
I love how the GOP supports the free market by demanding businesses do something they don't want to do.
And this guy pretty much sums up the GOP
Carpetbaggers try to stop them
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/...ennessee-americans-for-tax-reform-103377.html
I love how the GOP supports the free market by demanding businesses do something they don't want to do.
And this guy pretty much sums up the GOP
Armoured Priest
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People like him always seem to forget a) the King James (a favored translation amongst fundamentalists) is not a particularly accurate translation, b) Matthew 25:31-46, c) Revelation 22:18-19, and d) the 1st amendment of the United States.
This story just shows how absolutely insane the GOP is these days. Both management and labor WANT a union. They both want to come together to form a work council, nothing is being pushed on anyone and yet here we are.
Workers councils seem neat and perhaps a much needed update to the union system.
Our family has had a terrible history with unions, but here's a thought: I wonder if the GOP ever realizes the cognitive dissonance between being anti-union and contracting an entire company to do a certain job for your corporation. You're hiring a company (collective) that determines the rate (bargaining) and the only people that can do that job for your company have to work for the other company (union job).
So really, a union should just rebrand themselves as AmeriStrong LaborWorks Job Solutions Corporation. Then a Republican can't see you anymore.
Our family has had a terrible history with unions, but here's a thought: I wonder if the GOP ever realizes the cognitive dissonance between being anti-union and contracting an entire company to do a certain job for your corporation. You're hiring a company (collective) that determines the rate (bargaining) and the only people that can do that job for your company have to work for the other company (union job).
So really, a union should just rebrand themselves as AmeriStrong LaborWorks Job Solutions Corporation. Then a Republican can't see you anymore.
NYCmetsfan
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Both Pelosi and Reid are now on the record opposing fast track for TPP
theprodigy
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bad news for Kay Hagan though
Right. Colorado is still a swing state. Probably. It might lean slightly Democratic, but I don't find the evidence overwhelming. Obama won the state in consecutive elections, but it's not unprecedented for a state to flip from its historical trend in the short term. The strongest evidence is the demographic shift towards Democratic constituencies. That has certainly bolstered the Democrat's position in the state, and their advantage should increase gradually. But there's too much uncertainty to conclude anything beyond Colorado being competitive for both parties.
Oh?
Get ready to join us heathens in the lake of fire, Erick.
Republicans have long claimed that they don't dislike the idea of unions, as long as they remain in the private sector. Shocking to learn they don't like unions in the private sector either!
Seeing shit like this, I honestly have no idea how anyone could delude themselves into thinking Republicans care about workers.
Aaron Strife
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Interesting that they released their miscellaneous poll before the Senate numbers (I'm sure they polled both). I want more bad news for Kay Hagan!
They like to pretend unions are some boogeyman that's going to turk ur jerbs when they're really just overbloated middlemen these days. If you treat your workers right, then they have zero incentive to unionize.
I'd much rather get much better work protections installed at the legislative and constitutional level, at any rate. Modern unions do a shit job of protecting their own workers.
NYCmetsfan
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Well Unions are constitutionally protected by the 1st amendment. At least that's my understanding. But they can't compel
StopMakingSense
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3.3 million private exchange enrollments thru Feb 1.
Ignatz Mouse
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My young Republican self, back in the 80s, wrote an essay about this and won a $300 prize. Only it was about replacing unions with private companies (which has basically happened ever since). I think the issue is that the outsourcing company gives no power to its workers and is likely to be even less worker-focused and friendly than actual employees of a company. Any benefit goes to the principals of the outsourcing company, not the worker.
speculawyer
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Yeah, this story has been really bothering me. Those "small government" Republicans are really showing their 'small government' ways by sticking their noses into the private affairs of a private corporation. Go Figure.
Do they even see the irony?
JesseEwiak
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Why can't we have worker protections and strong unionism? Repeal Taft-Hartley and repeal right to work?
NYCmetsfan
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Its not ironic. They're not small government, they're pro-moneyed interests
It's only ironic if people think they only care about small goverment. Not ironic when you consider their true aims...
NYCmetsfan
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Unions allow workers to collectively have a say. Its hard for someone by themselves to have any leverage over management but together they can. That doesn't only apply in factories. It took off there because they're more unsafe and one of the first things workers demanded was a safer workplace.
There's no reason white collar workers can't unionize. Look at Hollywood and the actors union, directors union, writers union. Look at sports. Look at government employees. look at teachers. I hate this idea that Unions are only for menial or blue collar jobs.
Armoured Priest
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It does happen occassionally. Wisconsin Physicians Service, for example, I believe has a union. http://www.wpsic.com/careers/index.shtml
You're right, though...there's no reason it couldn't/shouldn't be more widespread.
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