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PoliGAF 2014 |OT| Kay Hagan and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad News

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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Yeah, those are pretty much my feelings. Workers definitely need a say, and we should give them more protection in laws, but I don't see how much unions can really contribute to that. Unions seem ill-adapted to a world where work is increasingly about intellectual contributions rather than hours spent on an assembly line.

But, I do find it kind of ironic that the party of supposed free enterprise is trying to penalize a company for deciding to allow a vote on unionization.

What about the Writer's guild? You don't get much more intellectual than writing and there's a union for it. Unions aren't outdated, management wants people to think they are. All workers deserve and need fair representation or their bosses will walk all over them, no matter the industry.
 
My fathers union is excellent. IBEW for those wondering. More people should work union. It's afforded our family many things. It's also ironic that a decent portion of these union workers vote republican, but that's besides the point. The idea that unions don't protect their workers isn't accurate though.
 

FyreWulff

Member
Why can't we have worker protections and strong unionism? Repeal Taft-Hartley and repeal right to work?

You can have both. The unions would actually have to protect their workers instead of the administration sitting on their ass because they have a guaranteed income whether you're working or not. We had a union do this to our family. A family member had to make the decision whether to wait 4 more months while his family starved or go apply for jobs outside of the union. After calling them and begging for a job, he finally went to another shop, and their response was to blacklist him until he pays back the dues they kept charging while making him sit plus a fee on top.

Which is why the workers council is neat. It enforces the idea that the workers are a force instead of a club.
 
My fathers union is excellent. IBEW for those wondering. More people should work union. It's afforded our family many things. It's also ironic that a decent portion of these union workers vote republican, but that's besides the point. The idea that unions don't protect their workers isn't accurate though.

I would join a union if I worked in a field that had them but I plan on advocating for them in my current field. They're great for the middle class.
 
You can have both. The unions would actually have to protect their workers instead of the administration sitting on their ass because they have a guaranteed income whether you're working or not. We had a union do this to our family. A family member had to make the decision whether to wait 4 more months while his family starved or go apply for jobs outside of the union. After calling them and begging for a job, he finally went to another shop, and their response was to blacklist him until he pays back the dues they kept charging while making him sit plus a fee on top.

Which is why the workers council is neat. It enforces the idea that the workers are a force instead of a club.

Yeah there can definitely be bad unions. iron law and all that.
 

gcubed

Member
My fathers union is excellent. IBEW for those wondering. More people should work union. It's afforded our family many things. It's also ironic that a decent portion of these union workers vote republican, but that's besides the point. The idea that unions don't protect their workers isn't accurate though.

My brother in law is in IUPAT and has helped tremendously with his family, my dad used to be in one and my sister is a teacher. I have yet to see the negative side of a union yet, but 1) I'm not that involved and 2) i've only ever had experience with 3 unions in my family
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
What about the Writer's guild? You don't get much more intellectual than writing and there's a union for it. Unions aren't outdated, management wants people to think they are. All workers deserve and need fair representation or their bosses will walk all over them, no matter the industry.

I always find it strange when people say we don't "need" unions anymore, as if having unions in the past has permanently made sure employers won't try and fuck around with their employees ever again.
 
District Judge struck down part of the Kentucky state ban on gay marriage amendment. Kentucky now has to accept marriages from other states (still illegal in Kentucky, though...wasn't part of the case).

Married gay couples can now go to Kentucky and be recognized. More deep red states, lol.

"For years, many states had a tradition of segregation and even articulated reasons why it created a better, more stable society. Similarly, many states deprived women of their equal rights under the law, believing this to properly preserve our traditions.

"In time, even the most strident supporters of these views understood that they could not enforce their particular moral views to the detriment of another's constitutional rights. Here as well, sometime in the not too distant future, the same understanding will come to pass."


http://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...rriage-20140212,0,3127349.story#ixzz2t9VQ3n7V

R.I.P gay marriage bans this decade.


edit: Dude was appointed by GWHB at the begging of Mitch McConnell. LOVE IT
 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...-will-retire-giving-Democrats-a-likely-pickup

Gary Miller, Republican sitting in the most Democratic district is retiring.

This is probably an instant pickup since he was elected in a fluke in 2012 (California has switched to a top two jungle primary system, and two Republicans snuck into the top two while the Democratic vote was split up among multiple candidates).

Essentially Democrats will start out with 201 seats in the November elections - conceding UT-4 and NC-7 to the GOP, but assuming Alex Sink wins the Florida special election and this seat is a gimme will cancel that out.
 
Oh man, can Matt Bevin make an issue out of this in the primary?

Bevin would probably win over Grimes but I don't care, I'm willing to make that sacrifice to ensure McConnell's out of the Senate.

EE can though
@EWErickson 2h
A McConnell Crony Forces Gay Marriage on Kentucky http://madisonproject.com/2014/02/a-mcconnell-crony-forces-gay-marriage-on-kentucky/ … via @Madison_Project

Thanks to McConnell, Kentucky is being subjected to the tyranny of the liberal agenda without a vote.


Also San diego which has almost always elected republicans elected another republican so obviously its a rebuke for dems.
BTW the guys is a RINO
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
lol. Chris Christie seems to have realized Bridgeghazi has fucked him over with Dems and independents, so he's decided there's only one course of action remaining: go full teatard.
 
lol. Chris Christie seems to have realized Bridgeghazi has fucked him over with Dems and independents, so he's decided there's only one course of action remaining: go full teatard.

Christie delivered an “unexpectedly blistering broadside” condemning Democrats for all kinds of things, including prioritizing economic inequality.

Fuck you. You govern the state with both Camden and Newark whilst being one of the most wealthy states in the union and you come out with this?
 
I was teaching at my previous job at one of those for profit trade school type colleges. This was when the big reforms went through about federal aid to these things. The school was trying really hard to get us all to write our reps and ask them to vote against it (I did the opposite).

Anyway, it had a shit ton of bad management issues (surprised, right?), and it got to the point where some of my coworkers got together the signatures to vote for unionization. I signed and voted yes. We lost. In Seattle. With teachers writing passionate "please don't vote to unionize" letters. I was already beyond miserable at that job, and that sure didn't help.

Much happier back in game dev, though no union here either, of course.
 
I was teaching at my previous job at one of those for profit trade school type colleges. This was when the big reforms went through about federal aid to these things. The school was trying really hard to get us all to write our reps and ask them to vote against it (I did the opposite).

Anyway, it had a shit ton of bad management issues (surprised, right?), and it got to the point where some of my coworkers got together the signatures to vote for unionization. I signed and voted yes. We lost. In Seattle. With teachers writing passionate "please don't vote to unionize" letters. I was already beyond miserable at that job, and that sure didn't help.

Much happier back in game dev, though no union here either, of course.

I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to unionize. It's absolutely baffling to me.
 
Gay marriage is 'tyranny'? They just have no sense of perspective. You have just been given a new freedom, jackass. OK, I understand that you are not interest in it but the fact remains that your freedom has been expanded not contracted.

What about the freedom to not live in a state that recognizes gay marriage?

Checkmate, liberal.
 
Gay marriage is 'tyranny'? They just have no sense of perspective. You have just been given a new freedom, jackass. OK, I understand that you are not interest in it but the fact remains that your freedom has been expanded not contracted.
They're taking away our freedom to decide what others' freedoms should be!

Which they should also not have a say in since they're naturally inclined to wanting more freedom, just like how gay justices should be expelled from the courts. The only people who should decide the issue are heterosexuals since they aren't affected by gay marriage laws, other than that they're harmed by them.
 
First worm dies, and now this?



Not an easy year for uncle Joe.

There are no words for my love of Biden. Seriously, he's the best VEEP ever.

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Gay marriage is 'tyranny'? They just have no sense of perspective. You have just been given a new freedom, jackass. OK, I understand that you are not interest in it but the fact remains that your freedom has been expanded not contracted.

Gays negatively affect my straightness.
 
Mitch McConnell is getting shit over a state judge throwing out their anti-gay marriage law. Turns out the judge is McConnell's former lawyer haha.

Dude can't catch a break.
 
Mitch McConnell is getting shit over a state judge throwing out their anti-gay marriage law. Turns out the judge is McConnell's former lawyer haha.

Dude can't catch a break.
I just hope he has to spend a shitton of money to beat Bevin in the primary so his war chest is drained by the general.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
And if that doesn't work out, he could always try the Shia LaBeouf paper bag routine.

A little context please. :(

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...to-pay-159-a-share-for-time-warner-cable.html

Comcast buying Time Warner.

Hooray for the Telecom Act of 1996, all of that neoliberalism sure delivered peace and prosperity!

Didn't' even know Comcast was big enough to buy TW. What other telecom companies are left if this goes through?
 

FyreWulff

Member
In 10 years, you'll have a choice between AT&T and Comcast for internet.

The answer to this problem is simple, nationalize the telecommunications industry.

But this is America and that's SOCIALISM!!!!

So disappointed my Senator, Sherrod Brown, voted for the Telecom Act when he was in the House.

Feingold and Sanders voted against it though so they're still awesome.
 

Chichikov

Member
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...to-pay-159-a-share-for-time-warner-cable.html

Comcast buying Time Warner.

Hooray for the Telecom Act of 1996, all of that neoliberalism sure delivered peace and prosperity!
Fuck the Telecommunications Act of 1996, fuck Clinton for signing it and fuck the the oh so many Democrats who supported that crap.
That being said, the FCC and the DOJ can still block that merger (like they did when AT&T tried to buy T-Mobile).

For real, internet should be a utility, and if that deal go through, Comcast will have even more power to kill those initiatives like those fuckers did in Seattle.
 

Trouble

Banned
Comcast is going to be like Taco Bell in Demolition man, but with TV.

"Your tone is quasi-faceteous, but you do not realize that Comcast was the only company to survive the telcom wars. Now all tv and internet are Comcast."
 
In 10 years, you'll have a choice between AT&T and Comcast for internet.



Comcast bought NBC-Universal.

They're fucking huge now.



Look at this failure:

http://subjunctive.net/klog/images/2008/Att_history.jpg


Man, I remember that with AT&T the first time in 1984. It was a big enough deal that I knew about it as a 9 year old, and that monopolies are bad because it kills competition and prices get out of hand.

i guess three is better then one, but that's like the exchange in Life of Brian about being stabbed being better vs hung on a cross.
 
Good lord conservative twitter has gone insane over Michelle Obama wearing a ball dress to the WH state dinner tonight. I'm sure Fox will fill everyone in tomorrow.
 
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