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Surely this has to be some sort of cleverly edited video and not an actual speech by Obama. Right?
That quip about praying five times a day was great. Also, why is Baba Booey there? lol.
Biggest mystery. I had to go back on my DVR cause I thought I was seeing thingsThat quip about praying five times a day was great. Also, why is Baba Booey there? lol.
Well he's up in 2016 anyway. It would be a pain to find a new candidate but it wouldn't be a special election (unless he decided to run for both and got elected to both, and resigned immediately)Wouldn't Dems rather keep him as governor? There are plenty of other Dems that could be VP, but getting another Dem as governor of MT in a special election would be difficulty.
Asked if presumed Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton could win his home state of Ohio, a key swing state, Kasich said, "Sure, sure she could."
"Anyone who underestimates Hillary Clinton, I think, makes a mistake," he added.
Hey look guys, we found a smart sensible Republicans.
State of the Union on CNN. Governor John Kasich(OH)
According to other attendees, Mr. Bush expressed a reluctance to enter the campaign fray, because it would be unhelpful to his brother, but also unseemly. “That’s why you won’t see me,” he said.
Mr. Bush acknowledged being a liability to his brother’s candidacy, noting that it was easy for his rivals to say in debates that we don’t need another Bush.
Notably not running for president (probably)Hey look guys, we found a smart sensible Republicans.
State of the Union on CNN. Governor John Kasich(OH)
Notably not running for president (probably)
"Yeah! Is that a bad thing? I believe in the Constitution."
Sawyer wondered whether a transgender individual affiliating with the Republican Party might be "an unsettling thing" for conservative Republicans, but Jenner told her neither party "has a monopoly on understanding." Sawyer asked Jenner whether he would ask Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) or House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to "help champion this cause."
"I would do that, yeah, in a heartbeat," Jenner said. "Why not? And I think they'd be very receptive to it."
I thought Cecily destroyed.
Murican corporations are allowedand how do people reconcile foreign entities making charitable donations as leading to undue influence, but not unlimited donations under citizen's united? seems like the same principle to me.
Check out this old article I posted in the last thread about the scandal.what do people here think of the clinton donation scandal?
and how do people reconcile foreign entities making charitable donations as leading to undue influence, but not unlimited donations under citizen's united? seems like the same principle to me.
I'm seeing a collective shrug on balance. The lefties predictably point to "there's no pro between the quid and the quo," the righties predictably shriek about "another evil Clinton scandal," and the middlers seem generally bored and weary at the idea of another campaign.what do people here think of the clinton donation scandal?
and how do people reconcile foreign entities making charitable donations as leading to undue influence, but not unlimited donations under citizen's united? seems like the same principle to me.
I thought Cecily destroyed.
what do people here think of the clinton donation scandal?
and how do people reconcile foreign entities making charitable donations as leading to undue influence, but not unlimited donations under citizen's united? seems like the same principle to me.
Who the hell is she?
what do people here think of the clinton donation scandal?
and how do people reconcile foreign entities making charitable donations as leading to undue influence, but not unlimited donations under citizen's united? seems like the same principle to me.
and how do people reconcile foreign entities making charitable donations as leading to undue influence, but not unlimited donations under citizen's united? seems like the same principle to me.
It remains illegal for corporations to donate to political campaigns. Citizens United did not concern campaign contributions, but independent expenditures. And "Let's spend money on a political commercial without talking to any candidates ahead of time" is quite different from "Let me give millions of dollars to this organization that you control" in terms of buying influence.
Because he's out of the public eye almost completely.Eh, Bush 43's favorability ratings have been positive now for a while.
Eh, Bush 43's favorability ratings have been positive now for a while.
I think it would be good for the GOP candidate, whether it's Jeb (hopefully not) or someone else, to have W out there. Being a former president automatically gives you a certain amount of gravitas. Sure, diehard liberals hate W, but they weren't going to vote for the GOP candidate in 2016 no matter what.
Eh, Bush 43's favorability ratings have been positive now for a while.
I think it would be good for the GOP candidate, whether it's Jeb (hopefully not) or someone else, to have W out there. Being a former president automatically gives you a certain amount of gravitas. Sure, diehard liberals hate W, but they weren't going to vote for the GOP candidate in 2016 no matter what.
Jeb could overcome the W issue if he wasn't a hawk. Instead Jeb has thusfar doubled down on NSA spying, waging war against ISIS, supporting the Iraq war, etc. Still I think he'd also avoid some comparisons because he's a better speaker and naturally seems more knowledgeable than his brother. He'd do well against Hillary in debates. But of course he'll never get the nomination.
I'm starting to think Hillary could implode btw. She's never been a good politician but these nonstop attacks have exposed her weaknesses. We'll see how far the rabbit hole goes in a few months but I don't see why certain liberals (see: Media Matters hand wringers) are so obsessed with defending her right now. If Jeb Bush did this shit they'd be hammering him for it.
Yeah me neither. So Bill Clinton took speaking fees from foreign entities while his wife was secretary of state. Sounds like correlation without causation.
Then why the fuck is he writing it? Either he's shamelessly trying to make fast money or the Clintons have some damn good lawyers on his tail.Even the guy writing the book admits he's got no proof of any of the allegations he's making and given his record as a journalist there's no reason anyone should be taking him seriously without actual hard evidence.
Then why the fuck is he writing it? Either he's shamelessly trying to make fast money or the Clintons have some damn good lawyers on his tail.
Then why the fuck is he writing it? Either he's shamelessly trying to make fast money or the Clintons have some damn good lawyers on his tail.
Paid the Cost to be a BossAnother thing: Biden has to be kicking himself for acting like a fucking buffoon for the last couple years. If ever there was an opening, it would be now.
Paid the Cost to be a Boss
Also if you had told me in December 2008 thathillarywould be the front runner in '16 and PD wasn't going to be on the hype train I wouldn't have believed it.
This is a "where there's smoke there's fire" issue imo. She's already guilty of purging emails, which I would assume we can agree isn't cool. Despite the objections of people on both sides, the Clintons decided to continue taking foreign donations during Hillary's SoS tenure. We can debate the accuracy of the book but it's a fact that the Clinton Foundation stopped reporting foreign donations in 2010, and Reuters' inquiry only recently forced them to decide to re-file.
Not to mention Bill Clinton's speaking engagement fees doubling and tripling during Hillary's tenure.
Maybe all of this is nothing, and maybe voters won't care. And even if this wasn't an issue you could argue that the right would find some other area to attack; that's what they do. One thing is certain to me though: Hillary isn't teflon. She's not half as talented as Bill or as slick. She can play the victim all she wants, and that will work for awhile, but eventually people will get tired of it. Clearly voters got tired of it in 2008, when she continually whined over the press' treatment of her compared to Obama.
Another thing: Biden has to be kicking himself for acting like a fucking buffoon for the last couple years. If ever there was an opening, it would be now.
These issues will blowover by primary time next year. If for some unforeseen circumstance that its not, she has the money to steamroll the competition and Obama's endorsement if things really go south.
It's not that PD is concern trolling, it's just that he is not willing to close ranks on a candidate 18 months before an election. Some of y'all are way too easily willing to dismiss questionable behaviour of a candidate simply because they're on your team.
Hillary is not your girlfriend guys, it's ok to be critical.
It's not that PD is concern trolling, it's just that he is not willing to close ranks on a candidate 18 months before an election. Some of y'all are way too easily willing to dismiss questionable behaviour of a candidate simply because they're on your team.
Hillary is not your girlfriend guys, it's ok to be critical.
It's not that PD is concern trolling, it's just that he is not willing to close ranks on a candidate 18 months before an election. Some of y'all are way too easily willing to dismiss questionable behaviour of a candidate simply because they're on your team.
Hillary is not your girlfriend guys, it's ok to be critical.
I expect Fox News, talk radio, and Republicans to hammer on this shit until election day. The fundamentals will largely determine this election, but Republicans will try their damndest regardless to convince people they don't want another ride on the Clinton merry-go-round of endless personal drama and questionable dealings. Two weeks ago Hannity devoted half his show to playing Reverand Wright clips and talking about Bill Ayers. There's ratings to be had in not letting it go.
PD carried water for Hilary in 2008, so all these criticisms seem a little hollow.
You can't concern troll all the time and expect to be taken seriously, so you have to work in "normal" political analysis like a conspiracy theorist uses historically accurate details to create the illusion of seriousness. It's like a fox news commentator who does it for no money.It's not that PD is concern trolling, it's just that he is not willing to close ranks on a candidate 18 months before an election. Some of y'all are way too easily willing to dismiss questionable behaviour of a candidate simply because they're on your team.
Hillary is not your girlfriend guys, it's ok to be critical.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of this lack of a primary at all. I'm hoping someone does give her some decent competition. I'm not voting for her in the primary. I'm voting Sanders unless someone like O'Malley ends up in striking distance of Hilary somehow, then I'd have to think about voting for him. He does seem like the one best positioned to cause her trouble, and even then he's probably got a better chance of getting hit by lighting than winning.Dunno if you guys follow various political shut-ins (Media Matters types, bloggers, etc) but the nonstop bitching they do over the media's treatment of Hillary is stunning. There is no accountability, no criticism, no nothing. It's Hillary vs the world, which doesn't make sense because a lot of these people were anti-Hillary in 2008. On the flip side there's a healthy amount of Hillary criticism and dislike on Daily Kos, as there was in 2007/2008.
I don't dislike Hillary, you all know my position. I just think it's very unhealthy for anyone to waltz to the nomination, and I really don't like seeing everyone line up behind her so early. This isn't the GOP primary, there's very little danger of democrats saying things in a primary that they cannot say during the general election. I want to see her go up against some competition. I like O'Malley, he seems to smartly be tacking to the Warren left. I hope Brian Schweitzer gets in, although he probably fucked up his shot.
When I played basketball, our coaches always told us that during a fast break you should always try to trail the teammate who has the ball. Because if he misses the layup you'll be right there to rebound the ball and put it back up for an easy bucket. If I was O'Malley that would be my mantra. He probably can't beat Hillary...but if she fucks up he has to be there ready and able to take the shot.
I believe Teddy is regarded as the most well read president in history, regularly reading multiple books in a day. Dude was remarkably intelligent as well as a physical force (soldier, boxer, swam across the Potomac every day). Definitely in the discussion for top five at least imo. In an alternate universe where his parents were murdered when he was a child he'd be the goddamn batman.Teddy was probably the smartest president we have ever had, the Man was sheer brilliance when he was able to channel his ADHD. He laid the groundwork for Wilson and FDR through his sheer forced of will and intelligence, throwing a pitiful forced, the government, against far more powerful interest.
When he could not control his ADHD, then he had issues. Such as announcing he would not seek reelection... After winning his first election in a land slide.