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[Fragamemnon]

I agree with big media matt

@mattyglesias 28s28 seconds ago
Pence doing a great job of making the case for Pence, but a poor job of defending Trump.

 

[TheFatOne]

This is going a bit like Clintons debate against Trump. Except Pence isn't melting down he's just lying, and sniping. First part Pence had the upper hand, but Kaine rebounded.

 

[Plinko]

LA Times has pence winning round 1.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...aine-and-mike-pence-1475622230-htmlstory.html


For comparison they gave the entire 1st debate to hillary.

The same LA Times that has the worst poll of the election?

I agree with them about the debate, though.

 

[PBY]

Kaine is a little too happy/excited when reeling off these horrific Trump actions

 

[BrokenFiction]

I agree with big media matt

@mattyglesias 28s28 seconds ago
Pence doing a great job of making the case for Pence, but a poor job of defending Trump.

I agree with this take.

 

[sazzy]

that was great.

 

[HylianTom]

There Kaine goes again with the formula. Simply quote Trump. It works.

 

[TheFatOne]

OOOOO he caught himself about to say defend and pivoted from it immediately. Pence has no interest defending Trump tonight. That much is obvious.

Edit: I'm not going crazy right. Pence was about to say he could defend what Trump has said, but immediately rephrased it.

 

[metalslimer]

LOL I can defend....*thinks better of it*

 

[Y2Kev]

Kaine is a little too happy/excited when reeling off these horrific Trump actions

I agree with that. He said you are disgusting! :SMILE

 

[Holmes]

My favorite Pence tactic is feigning outrage at things Trump did, as if he's never met him.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I agree with big media matt

@mattyglesias 28s28 seconds ago
Pence doing a great job of making the case for Pence, but a poor job of defending Trump.

This is important to think about.

 

[Crocodile]

There should be some mention that demonizing Muslims around the world make us less safe as a nation because we need the help of Muslim majority nations and communities to fight the terrorists cells in the Middle East.

EDIT: No mention of the Gold-Star family?

 

[TheFatOne]

LOL I can defend....*thinks better of it*

Thank you for confirming I'm not going crazy. Pence wants no business defending Trump. Guy is gunning for a run later on.

 

[Tamanon]

I feel the SOFA agreement is a terrible argument, and yet it's the central argument. It's so weird.

 

[Fenderputty]

This thread is bipolar right now lol

 

[Diablos]

Pence is still winning.

 

[greatgeek]

I give the internet 10 mins. before we see a Mt. Trumpmore pic.

 

[Officerrob]

This thread is bipolar right now lol

Pence is winning, but it doesn't matter

 

[PBY]

Pence is still winning.

This

Pence is winning, but it doesn't matter

And this

 

[TheFatOne]

Pence is still winning.

Nah it's about even now. Pence was up early but Kaine has come back.

This

And this

I would disagree with this. It's about even now.

 

[Y2Kev]

I think Kaine is doing a lot better than he was in the first five minutes.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

This is probably a 40/60 debate, Kaine/Pence, I'd say

Too close to matter at all. Kaine is kind of weaker than I assumed and Pence is a lot slimier than I thought.

 

[nature boy]

Kaine is a left-hander?

 

[Bowdz]

Pence is winning, but it doesn't matter

Yep. Kaine's doing much better now, but Pence has mastered the bullshit non-answer.

 

[CygnusXS]

Jesus Christ Pence

 

[metalslimer]

Pence is winning, but it doesn't matter

It's even now

 

[Holmes]

Wow too bad the Republican ticket that Pence is describing is not real.

 

[Officerrob]

Pence is losing this question badly

 

[neurosisxeno]

Pence is losing this question badly

He's lost the last like 3 or 4.

 

[BSsBrolly]

I may be tapping out. Not sure I can watch this another hour..

 

[RustyNails]

CYBER?? DID SOMEONE SAY BARON?

 

[Y2Kev]

Pence is getting bitchslapped on the more recent questions. His composure is important but his substance is just really toxic.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Pence just crashed and burned on that exchange, jeez

 

[Officerrob]

I may be tapping out. Not sure I can watch this another hour..

30 minutes

 

[diaspora]

the cyberz

 

[BlastProcessing]

@ezraklein
Pence is a good salesman. The problem is he's selling a really, really bad product.

 

[HylianTom]

wow. Kaine quotes Trump to Pence and Pence laughs.

And now Dems are retweeting this Pence gem from 2015:

Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional.

 

[titiklabingapat]

It just seemed like Kaine was a little nervous earlier but he is hitting his stride now, and strongly. Pence is better at the canned politician answers though and Kaine comes off as more passionate.

 

[Dominican Power]

Pence looking thirsty.

 

[Makai]

Pence faux yukking it up looks bad

 

[Holmes]

@ezraklein
Pence is a good salesman. The problem is he's selling a really, really bad product.

Exactly. He's not even being honest about what he's selling.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Donald Trump loves the cyber. Loves, loves, loves, the cyber. And his 10 year old son is a whiz with computers. Loves the cyber.

 

[Plinko]

Kaine has really turned it around.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

wow. Kaine quotes Trump to Pence and Pence laughs.

Generally Pence has been better than I expected but his willingness to straight up lie about what Trump says is going to bite him in the ass. Its too easy to take the quotes and put them on youtube. This stuff works in AAA but not the big leagues.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

This Kaine answer on emails is pretty good.

 

[metalslimer]

Kaine does a decent job defending Hilary. Pence can defend a single thing Trump has said

 

[RustyNails]

I'm not entirely sure Pence wants to bring up Putin.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Kaine has really turned it around.

It took him a bit to match his energy level to Pence's.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

I've gone back to processing PA precincts, tbh

Best Nate drops the biggest truth bomb here.