Van Ostern (D) +11 too.
In the end, New Hampshire returns to where it was pre-Comeygate and Ayotte's incumbency keeps it closer than the other two statewide races but it's not enough.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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In the end, New Hampshire returns to where it was pre-Comeygate and Ayotte's incumbency keeps it closer than the other two statewide races but it's not enough.
Whee!
obama's ev lead was 250k in 2012. a couple days ago mook had 2016 at 170k. it must surely be higher than 2012 by now if dade county is to be believed.
TheLostBigBoss
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I need to slap every Bernie person I know with this article till they get this shit through their thick fucking skulls and the notion of third party doesn't exist.
Chezzymann
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If we fuck up and dont get the senate will it be extremely hard for hillary to get anything done?
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Love that they randomly worked in her shimmy from the first debate in there lol.
As a Canadian, rooting you all on on Tuesday. I wish I could vote for Hillary with you all.
Yes. It's bad news bears.
TheCochese
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Oh, please link. I could use some entertainment tomorrow.
I doubt she'll be able to get a SC justice appointed. McConnell has gotta go.
A Link to the Past
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"If you are talking about the first moon landing where Neil Armstrong made one giant leap for mankind, I remember it distinctly. It was a great day to be an American. It was the culmination of a determined and noble effort to achieve the outer edge of our capabilities as a nation. There is nothing more American than that."
I'm surprised he didn't end it by talking about how Congress will look into it.
I'm surprised he didn't end it by talking about how Congress will look into it.
ShironRedshift
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I agree. And even if that weren't the case, it would still have personal significance to people such as myself to see the popular vote margin pushed as far as the extreme political polarization of the country will allow it will go regardless.
Fuck it. Just let me quote my post from the Election thread in here. This doesn't apply to most people in here, but it explains what I mean (even though I did ramble a ton writing it because I got emotional writing it and that's what happens when I try typing up a post anyway when I get emotional, so please bear with that anyone who reads that or otherwise definitely don't feel obligated to read all of it or anything to get the gist):
For anyone who feels this way (relanning to vote, but not for the President): Why not? I mean, might as well vote for one of them while you're there. You're going to be there anyway and one of them's going to be President. And why not let that person be Clinton? You hate them both anyway, so why not defer to the rest of America, who the President will represent and listen to what they have to say on the matter, because we'll tell you loud at clear there's only one answer here, and that answer is Hillary Clinton.
After all, even if you don't like either of them, I hope you understand that you're not voting for someone to be your friend. You don't have to like them. You can even loathe them! Again, you aren't votign them to be your friend, but the leader of the country. They don't have to be someone you like to be able to do that, but rather be the best leader. The important thing is to consider which one will actually be able to benefit the lives of more people across the country. Which will be able to do the more good for the greatest number of people. And there the choice is clear, considering one candidate has rallied against every group in America save white men and the other hasn't and has actually demonstrated she cares about them.
My real name is Tim Brown, I'm a psychology major and I hope to become a high school guidance counselor so that I can help young people to figure out what they want to do with their lives and to reach their potential to the best of my ability. And I'm bisexual. As a bisexual individual who doesn't want to see justices like Scalia appointed to the Supreme Court who would overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the kind of judges Trump has said he would appoints if he wins and, thus restricting my freedom to marry who I choose, if I could, I would meet you in person and get on my knees and beg for your vote if I had to. I shouldn't have to and many wouldn't because they have too much pride or dignity or don't have the time for that, and more power to that and I fully respect that because like I said no one should have to do that and we shouldn't have to do abandon our pride and diginity and shouldn't have to beg, especially after all these years. but I would.
And that's because that's how much it matters to me, and that's how much of an impact this election will have on the lives of people like me across the country. And that's the case even if you live somewhere like Texas or Arkansas or West Virginia or (or alternatively, New York or California or Washington) somewhere else where you feel your vote doesn't matter at all, because that's just not true. It might not matter in terms of the Electoral College in that case, but nonetheless every vote against Trump in the Popular Vote sends that much stronger of a message that we Americans don't stand for that type of hate, and that that's not who we are and that we're suppose better than that.
Now, that might not matter much to you, because you might not have much at stake at this election. But people such as myself do. For us, what's at stake is our ability to marry the people who we love, regardless of that person's sex or gender identity. For my Muslim brothers and sisters across the country, it's the right to feel secure in their personhood and without fear that President Trump or his victory will try to kick them out of the country or otherwise persecute them simply because of their faith. For my Hispanic and Latino Americans who would be in quite a similar position under Trump, always being accused of being an illegal immigrant or if not that nonetheless being a rapist or drug dealer or some other form of criminal. For the African Americans, such as those among the Central Park Five, who Trump still sees as being inherently criminal despite being completely exonerated and the actual culprit having come forward and been convicted to this day as well as the tenants Trump and his father denied housing too simply based on the color of their skin and was thus sued for housing discrimination two separate times on the matter. For the women, who Trump sees as sex objects and pigs, beings who exist for his pleasure and nothing more and nothing less. And for the many minorities across the country in general who are having their voting rights restricted by people like Trump and the GOP because the party doesn't give a fuck about democracy and making sure that every person gets to have their voice heard as easily as possible but rather will do whatever it takes to stay in power and if that means restricting early voting or closing polling locations or what-have-you, then so be it.
None of this may matter to you personally and your vote may not personally affect it or change the tide of any of the matters. But even if that's the case, it still sends that much more powerful message that that type of hate isn't what it means to be an American and isn't who we are. You might not think it does, but to bisexual men and women such as myself across the country, as well my gay, lesbian, and transgender brothers and sisters each vote against Trump really does send that much more powerful of a message that this isn't who we are as Americans and that we're better than that, and that that really does matter to people like me and give me that much more hope in the United States and make me feel that much more positive about our country and the direction we're heading. As it does to my black brothers and sisters who don't want to see a racist elected president and every vote against him sends that much stronger of a message against someone who discriminated against black tenants and tried to lobby for the death penalty to be brought back to New York state because of five black and Hispanic teenagers who had done nothing wrong and were falsely accused. As it does to the Muslim Americans in country, who love this country as much as any other American and just want to worship in peace without being prosecuted for their faith. As it does to Hispanic and Latinos, even if they do happen to be undocumented and are just doing their best to support their families and loved ones and sure as fuck contribute more in taxes to the economy and to better this nation than the person who wants to send them back to Mexico and calls "most" of them criminals and rapists. As it does to women across the country, who don't want to be seen as just sex objects but be respected for who they are and just might appreciate the fact that we could be about to have our first woman President, and she would be one of the most qualified candidates to date for the position even if she might have her flaws.
You might not think your personal vote can send that much of a message against all of that hate, but it does. Each vote really does send that much stronger of message that that isn't who we are as Americans and that that isn't alright and that we're better than that, and that does matter. Maybe not to you, but it does to each and every one of us, and gives us that much more hope in our fellow Americans and the direction this country is going and that does matter. A lot.
So if you yourself can't decide between the candidates, then do it for us. Because it might not matter to you, but it does to each and every one of us. And we're telling you that there's only one candidate in this race: the one that doesn't despise every group in America save white men. So please, vote for her in that case. Because even if it doesn't matter to you, it sure as hell matters to us. And you're not just voting for your president, but the President who will have to represent the entire United States, including every one of those groups I mentioned. And they'll all tell you the same thing I am: that there is only one choice in this election and it does matter how you use that vote. Maybe not for you, but it definitely does for us. So if you can't bring yourself to decide, then at least listen to what we're telling you and use your vote to send that much stronger of a message that that isn't who we are. Because it does matter, and it does add up. Every single vote.
Please. Let people such as myself have faith in this country for once. That we're a country full of people that do care about all of that. That we're full of people that are full of love, and that refuse to accept the hate Trump dishes out towards every group in the United Sates and won't tolerate it even if the other candidate isn't quite perfect because of the sheer level of hate he dishes out that's nowhere close to any of Hillary's flaws (and indeed, I recognize that she's flawed, but there's just no comparison). Let me have faith that not only will the guy get nowhere close to the Presidency, but that the man who wants to or has done all those things I mentioned not only won't win, but will be completely obliterated because not only are those qualities that we refuse to accept in our leaders, but are qualities that we'd refuse to accept even in our friends and let him lose by the largest margin possible to send that message as loud and clear as possible. That we can be better than that, and that we are. Because every bit louder we make that message does make that much more of a difference to people like me and gives me that much more faith. It does.
Please. Just... Please.
TheLostBigBoss
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don't worry we can totally bus you in
Me too haha
MetalGearZed
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Xamtheking
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VendettaRed07
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Appointing whoever we want to the Supreme court.
What are the odds of that happening? Are we seriously going to go four years with only 8 SCJs? Is there any precedent for that at all historically?
eBay Huckster
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i'm digging the entire last page freaking out over some "early vote survey" (no mention of who conducted it, no mention of sample size, no mention of any crosstab whatsoever), and especially bam bam bedwetter claiming ohio's gone, after the fuckin' gold standard OH poll just showed clinton up 1
Would love it if it buried Rubio's political career.
Roland_Gunner
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To be clear, the money was Schumer's. The DSCC hasn't given him one cent. Schumer has given at least $6M to the senate dems and raised tons more. People can reasonably say he could have given more but he hasn't taken anything.
Spiritreaver
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I thought the blue wall was cracking though. Yall need to have hope in the final stretch and stop being "concerned". WE GOT THIS.
Yall need to have hope in the final stretch and stop being "concerned". WE GOT THIS. Live Free or Cum Hard.
My point was that they could have helped him win and didn't.
I think she'll break them on this.
Box of Kittens
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Yeah, that tells you everything you need to know right there. Them trying to push such an obviously nonsensical story in the days leading up to the election is a huge tell.
They've already come out and said they would rather have the Supreme Court literally die off then ever give a Democrat a Supreme Court nominee vote.
BronzeWolf
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When would HRC take office?
Wafflecakes
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January 20th.
Roland_Gunner
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As horrible as this Comey thing has been, the fact that we've found something so insane that even Joe Walsh isn't on board with it is kinda comforting.
Slackerish
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Wow, reading Trump's answers was pretty quick and boring.
They don't have any reason to change unless gerrymandering gets fixed. They can sit in their safe districts, be completely useless, and still get re-elected.
Wow, most of them on the Trump side are basically, "We'll cut it if we think it's a waste of time" or "I dunno, ask Congress".
AntraxSuicide
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Box of Kittens
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I kept trying to tell people NH was fine. Aside from ARG (which is a garbage pollster), the recent polls there have ranged from a small Trump lead to a large Clinton lead. That points to Clinton being ahead.
VendettaRed07
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Wouldn't that only be 49 if we don't keep Nevada?
I mean, I'm five minutes from the border, but I ~think~ I shouldn't fuel the "voter fraud" garbage
I want one of my friends in the US to buy me a Woman Card tho
Wafflecakes
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We are keeping Nevada.
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