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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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Blader

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Yup. At this point, I'm operating under the assumption that Reid's machine and major turnout so far in Nevada will deliver the seat to Masto.

If Masto keeps NV for the 46th seat, who are you seeing as the likely 47-49 before Hassan's 50th? Feingold, Duckworth...McGinty?
 

Vestal

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Florida numbers:




That's over 100k votes from Democratic strongholds



In Dade county alone, we're at 750k votes cast, that's 100k less than the total number of votes cast in 2012.

WE WILL DELIVER "DEPLORABLE" FLORIDA FOR THE QUEEEEEN!!!
 
If Masto keeps NV for the 46th seat, who are you seeing as the likely 47-49 before Hassan's 50th? Feingold, Duckworth...McGinty?
McGinty's polled pretty consistently with a small but consistent lead over the election, and she's in a blue state that's being contested. She's not quite as safe as Feingold or Duckworth but it's pretty safe to assume she'll make it.
 
In 15 minutes, EST:

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Not sure if posted but quite an interesting article.

Why the gay community loves Hillary Clinton
I'm a gay, and I'll speak for everyone. Gay men love strong women. Women who get knocked down and get the fuck up, dust themselves off and say fuck you, you shoulda hit me harder--Liza, Judy, Cher, Tammy Faye. Women who do what they want, when they want, how they want, and everyone else can get in line or get out the way. We love those nasty women who refuse to accept a heteronormative argument for following the status quo. WERK FUCK QUEEN YASSSSS.
obama's ev lead was 250k in 2012. a couple days ago mook had 2016 at 170k. it must surely be higher than 2012 by now if dade county is to be believed.
Where did you get 250k from? We went into election day in 2012 with an 85k vote lead. Perhaps I have the numbers wrong, but I do not believe we had a 250k vote lead. Republicans would have had to win election day by double digits to overcome that. And we know they didn't. If you have a link on that, I'd love to take a look, because I may be 100% wrong.
 
My point was that they could have helped him win and didn't.

This isn't exactly right. FL has 5 major media markets, all of which are expensive as fuck. Murphy has a name recognition of between 30-35%. To bring that number up to just 50%, would have meant spending millions of dollars that could/should be used in other, less expensive races.

Murphy was always going to live or die by his own accord, but he's lucky that FL is a "must win" from Clinton's perspective, because it shuts off nearly all of Trump's realistic-win scenarios. Inatead of dropping a bunch of cash for ads noone would care about, they sent that cash to Kander and a handful of other downballot races; plus he's had Clinton, Obama and every other political and celebrity surrogate absolutely beating the bushes to find every EV they could muster.

Murphy would have wasted cash, but is getting more campaign firepower than any single Senate candidate in the entire nation. Have faith
 

HylianTom

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If Masto keeps NV for the 46th seat, who are you seeing as the likely 47-49 before Hassan's 50th? Feingold, Duckworth...McGinty?
That's what I'm guessing. McGinty looks like she was pulling slightly ahead, and the GOTV operation in Philly should help. Feingold is a done deal. And the machine in Wisconsin is pretty solid.

I'm not relaxed completely, but New Hampshire breaking for Hassan is something that'd make me feel verrrrry good about our chances.
 
I think the last question sums up the whole thing nicely:

I just read that whole article. Wow it's like night and day.

The Trump campaign just seemed annoyed with the whole interview and completely uninterested in utilizing NASA.

The Clinton camp practically geeked out in that interview. It dove into specifics.
Trump was more concerned with how we can dump more money into the military.

You want to make America great again? Let's fucking start by investing in NASA.
 

sazzy

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Here's a hot take:

We know that the majority of elected Republicans are, at least privately, do not like the direction their party is taking, but are too afraid to come out and say it.

So Hillary is not only fighting the Democrats' fight against Donald; she's also fighting the Republicans' fight for them.
 
I'm a gay, and I'll speak for everyone. Gay men love strong women. Women who get knocked down and get the fuck up, dust themselves off and say fuck you, you shoulda hit me harder--Liza, Judy, Cher, Tammy Faye. Women who do what they want, when they want, how they want, and everyone else can get in line or get out the way. We love those nasty women who refuse to accept a heteronormative argument for following the status quo. WERK FUCK QUEEN YASSSSS.
Bisexual here, but fully agree. She's amazing. She's put up with so much nonsense, but she doesn't let any of it stop her, and she just keeps going and going and going no matter what people say about her or who tries to stand in her way. Can't help but love and be totally amazed and inspired by that. :)
 
While I obviously don't care who wins as long as we get the numbers needed.. It would be almost criminal if Kander lost despite running the best campaign out of anyone and other campaigns stumble across the finish line after nearly throwing away what should have been easily winnable races.
 
I'm going to laugh at all of you when Murphy wins

With the numbers we're seeing he can still do it

I mean, he pulled to within a point in a couple of polls.

Yeah, I think he is. Black folks and Puerto Ricans and younger Cubans aren't ticket-splitting to help him.
 
While I obviously don't care who wins as long as we get the numbers needed.. It would be almost criminal if Kander lost despite running the best campaign out of anyone and other campaigns stumble across the finish line after nearly throwing away what should have been easily winnable races.
Definitely. Really hoping he manages to pull it off, not just because of the numbers but because he deserves it.
 
Guys we should just refer to clinton as President Clinton now. Its gonna happen, why wait?


Okay I'll start. President Clinton needs a senate majority. I hope it happens!
 

geomon

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Murphy was literally the best candidate out there. Maybe the DNC should help the inept FL section of the party get some candidates worth a damn. This is why I wanted Debbie gone.

The Florida Democratic Party sucks. It's fucking god awful and getting worse every year.
 

shiba5

Member
Here's a hot take:

We know that the majority of elected Republicans are, at least privately, do not like the direction their party is taking, but are too afraid to come out and say it.

So Hillary is not only fighting the Democrats' fight against Donald; she's also fighting the Republicans' fight for them.

They're tied to their crazy ass base. Unless they can figure out how to jettison them from the party, any moderate will get primaried for a crazier candidate. They are pretty fucked. They can't live without their base and their base will cause them to be increasingly irrelevant.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Bisexual here, but fully agree. She's amazing. She's put up with so much nonsense, but she doesn't let any of it stop her, and she just keeps going and going and going no matter what people say about her or who tries to stand in her way. Can't help but love and be totally amazed and inspired by that. :)


Heterosexual here and I feel like I can speak for all straight white people when I say that racism ended with og star trek and on Wednesday the GOP will begin reforming itself into a fiscally conservative party of rational thought that believes in individual liberty and the holistic good of the nation.
 

AniHawk

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I'm a gay, and I'll speak for everyone. Gay men love strong women. Women who get knocked down and get the fuck up, dust themselves off and say fuck you, you shoulda hit me harder--Liza, Judy, Cher, Tammy Faye. Women who do what they want, when they want, how they want, and everyone else can get in line or get out the way. We love those nasty women who refuse to accept a heteronormative argument for following the status quo. WERK FUCK QUEEN YASSSSS.

Where did you get 250k from? We went into election day in 2012 with an 85k vote lead. Perhaps I have the numbers wrong, but I do not believe we had a 250k vote lead. Republicans would have had to win election day by double digits to overcome that. And we know they didn't. If you have a link on that, I'd love to take a look, because I may be 100% wrong.

http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/05/81541/
In all, Democrats have cast almost 250,000 more early votes than Republicans have, and that number could climb when all the outstanding absentee ballots have come in. Obama likely ends up with an early-vote lead in Florida of about 5 points.

i guess that was raw votes and not an estimation of the total lead. however if hillary is currently winning the miami-dade vote by the same margins obama won the county with, then she has a 155k lead right now out of 777k votes. of course since republicans will vote more on election day, the total will more likely even out to the margins that obama won by, meaning her lead percentage is probably higher than the 20-point split it wound up at four years ago.
 
Definitely. Really hoping he manages to pull it off, not just because of the numbers but because he deserves it.

Definitely. I want him in the Senate badly. He's such a great guy, not only can he win this race but he can potentially occupy that seat for a long time. Would be amazing long term.
 

shiba5

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Heterosexual here and I feel like I can speak for all straight white people when I say that racism ended with og star trek and on Wednesday the GOP will begin reforming itself into a fiscally conservative party of rational thought that believes in individual liberty and the holistic good of the nation.

Stinkles smoked too much hopium.
 
McGinty's polled pretty consistently with a small but consistent lead over the election, and she's in a blue state that's being contested. She's not quite as safe as Feingold or Duckworth but it's pretty safe to assume she'll make it.

McGinty's safer than Feingold at this point. Ron Johnson caught up to Feingold in a few polls, but I don't think McGinty's trailed in a poll in a long time.
 
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