Source, please.
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They're going to have to change some of the rules anyway. The rules committee meets on the first day, doesn't it? I'm sure it'll be stacked with Establishment people so they can set it up quietly.
Coriolanus
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yes, but did they say that you needed to have the majority of delegates in 8 states in this cycle?
Basileus777
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They change the rules every single year.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar..._convention_fuels_gop_rules_panel_129335.html
The Republican Party's Rules Panel meets every year prior to the convention.
Retromelon
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If im remembering right, hacker never even used math, he would just do some evil dickery and math would naturally occur in the obstacles the heroes would face in their quest to foil him. That he's bad at math even got joked about in the show.
Seems like it was done just in case of a brokered convention? Romney would be kicking himself later if it comes to that and he pissed it away for lack of being prepared.
RustyNails
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If they're facing a Trump candidacy, the optics would be least of their concerns especially when they're fully cognizant of the fact that an open revolt is inevitable. Why not go down swinging?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I'm pretty sure when your explicit goal is to fuck over Trump and Cruz, you aren't going to care what your actual rules say.
Hmm, I could see Cruz throwing his delegates to Trump to get all of the anti-Establishment back to his side.
"Listen, I've had disagreements with Donald Trump. We've fought over the campaign trail. But I don't want to see the will of voters subverted like this."
I don't think it will come down to a brokered convention though because Trump and Cruz will end up with >90% of the delegates all together and one will probably end up with a majority.
Hmm, I could see Cruz throwing his delegates to Trump to get all of the anti-Establishment back to his side.
"Listen, I've had disagreements with Donald Trump. We've fought over the campaign trail. But I don't want to see the will of voters subverted like this."
I don't think it will come down to a brokered convention though because Trump and Cruz will end up with >90% of the delegates all together and one will probably end up with a majority.
AntraxSuicide
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I think Trump is fine here. I actually even see supporters of his around the college, and the rural folks seem on board as well. The only thing is that I'd expect a Cruz bump on election day, but not nearly as bad as a caucus since people do seem to be ashamed to vote Trump. Secretly voting helps, but I think there will be people backing out at the last minute.
Basileus777
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The current rule was set up before the convention to block Ron Paul supporters from nominating him and embarrassing Romney.
cartoon_soldier
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The first thing in convention is agreeing to the rules for nomination, rules can be changed at that time.
User 463088
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The rules are for the convention, so they can change them, yes.
Technically, they could change the rules to say that the only delegate that matters is one from Kentucky if they wanted.
The clown car just acquired a new asshole.
RustyNails
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Bolded my point as well. Sacrifices have to be made. FOR THE PARTY.
VendettaRed07
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Oh..darn it
Ohhhhh.
I've seen 5 Trump ads today already.
So it's not like he isn't spending in FL himself.
VendettaRed07
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Anyway.. What kind of backlash are we looking at if this goes to a convention and the party hands it to Romney? I mean, how are conservative voters even going to handle that? That would be completely unprecedented in modern politics for a party to just ignore votes and hand it to someone who didn't even run wouldn't it?
Define modern. It's happened a few times in my grandparents' lifetimes.
VendettaRed07
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Which elections?
With the way media is handled I'm gonna say "modern" as in the past 50-60 years. Primaries weren't looked at the same way they are now before then I don't think
Box of Kittens
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Speaking only of myself, I would consider "modern" with respect to party nominations to be from 1972 on, i.e. after the DNC implemented the McGovern-Fraser Commission reforms.
post 1972
Adlai Stevenson didn't run and got the 1952 nomination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_1952
VendettaRed07
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Oh my God, I didn't realize this. They can't even win a brokered convention without rewriting the rules on the day. There is zero possible way to make it look reasonable.
This is getting a lot of play on /r/The_Donald
Ted Cruz: KILL THE GAYS
In case anyone needed reminding that Ted Cruz is the worst candidate in the field.
Ted Cruz: KILL THE GAYS
In case anyone needed reminding that Ted Cruz is the worst candidate in the field.
Basileus777
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No one was going to beat Eisenhower after how unpopular Truman was.
Greatest primary of our lifetimes. First rule change would need to be prohibiting media from attending convention.
This is amazing, it has it all.
Some of the more notable highights:
- Trying to act like she is one of the 'real people' out there working 3 jobs to stay afloat
- Use of Michael Brown as a villain
- Barely veiled threats of violence against Mitt Romney
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I know a brokered convention is literally the only way that the GOPe could salvage the party, but let's analyze how fucking stupid this: They're going to have to rely on Ted fucking Cruz doing what's best for the party and sending his delegates to Romney
The Establishment is going to have to rely on Cruz doing what's best for the party rather than himself and rely on Cruz being willing to support a squish for nominee. Because Cruz and Trump will have essentially all of the delegates by Cleveland and they'll need Cruz's support to actually pull off this screwjob.
The Establishment is going to have to rely on Cruz doing what's best for the party rather than himself and rely on Cruz being willing to support a squish for nominee. Because Cruz and Trump will have essentially all of the delegates by Cleveland and they'll need Cruz's support to actually pull off this screwjob.
User 463088
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If Rmoney is behind this, he's not doing it to setup a primary challenge. It's only so that if he gets it at a brokered convention he has something in place to help him. He's not on the ballot anywhere, so he can't jump into the primary.
I think he's hoping that he can be a compromise candidate. Like I said, though, I don't know how you get from Trump to Cruz to Rmoney.
I think he's hoping that he can be a compromise candidate. Like I said, though, I don't know how you get from Trump to Cruz to Rmoney.
Well, Cruz also has support from a literal Nazi sympathizer. I'm surprised that hasn't sunk his campaign already.
BrokenIcarus
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Holy shit, wtf?
Voysa Reezun
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I think the Buckleyite faction which loves free markets and abhors social safety nets is going to go ahead and tank this election and rip the party apart to hold onto it. Those folks are scared that the GOP will get taken away from them and turned into a white, nationalist, extreme Christian party that embraces economically populist ideals.
They will punt SCOTUS for a generation to save their party and smack the Trumpistas (Trumpites? Trumpeters?) back into their place.
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thepotatoman
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Going by those 538 targets, Cruz is still 151 delegates behind his target, and will fall to 302 delegates behind his target with the likely scenario he loses Ohio and Florida.
It seems to me like his only hope to reach 1,237 is with Rubio's delegates, either by him releasing them when he drops out or through a contested convention, with Cruz wanting Rubio to gain a few more delegates before releasing them. Cruz may beat Trump in a straight 1v1 match, but it's too late for that, and map is too much against Cruz going forward. They basically need to 2v1 Trump in order for Trump to lose.
I'm just not sure what Rubio will do when he's clearly a distant third but is looking at a good chance to force a contested convention if he wants to.
It seems to me like his only hope to reach 1,237 is with Rubio's delegates, either by him releasing them when he drops out or through a contested convention, with Cruz wanting Rubio to gain a few more delegates before releasing them. Cruz may beat Trump in a straight 1v1 match, but it's too late for that, and map is too much against Cruz going forward. They basically need to 2v1 Trump in order for Trump to lose.
I'm just not sure what Rubio will do when he's clearly a distant third but is looking at a good chance to force a contested convention if he wants to.
Macho Madness
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Wow. I just found out I lost 15 pounds in a month. I don't feel much thinner but seeing that number go down so much is incredible.
I think they're just going to slowly sort into the Democrats since the Republican platform will include protectionism going forward.
You might want to see your doctor if you weren't actively dieting. Rapid unexpected weight loss can be a symptom of a whole bunch of things.
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