Spoiled Milk
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I think the right will just focus on the fact that the Democrats are incapable of being trusted with secure information.
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I think the right will just focus on the fact that the Democrats are incapable of being trusted with secure information.
metalslimer
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Even for someone without an ego it's probably pretty devastating how to DWS with how quickly this happened especially when it was done by an illegal hack by the Russians.
I don't think keeping the hack in the news does anyone any good even if it's fucking ludicrous that the Russian government is trying to influence our elections.
I don't think keeping the hack in the news does anyone any good even if it's fucking ludicrous that the Russian government is trying to influence our elections.
Mrs. Manky
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He wants to fly on Bear Force One.
Seriously. Two days ago, she was probably looking forward to the DNC and planning the rest of the year. This afternoon, she's done and in a somewhat competitive primary. It's a lot to take in.
That's correct.
Tim Canova? PANIC! PANIC!
User 463088
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CNN: "uh guys what does this even mean? I hope there's another plagiarism event, I understood that"
Yea they're just repeating the findings of Crowdstrike, the firm the DNC hired to investigate the hacks. Also it's not completely accurate as the two groups are only suspected to be affiliated with Russian intelligence not actual agencies.
It still blows my mind that Michael Flynn was the guy in charge of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the organization that was supposed to fight this kind of stuff.
From what is being reported she feels that she deserves to be there for her hard work. She wants to open and close the convention. Also wants to make a short speech to the delegates (3-5minutes).
Coriolanus
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Obv. Should that come up during a debate, however, is as easy as countering with Valerie Plame.
Which im sure everyone remembers.
metalslimer
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She's going to get booed by a shit ton of those delegates. As hard as this is she should not be speaking.
Further evidence that she shouldn't be DNC head. It's difficult to feel unjustly hated, but her role should be doing what she can to advance to the party as a whole. Her speaking is a bad idea.
Spoiled Milk
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C'mon, Scooter Libby didn't even do anything.
User 463088
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This is going to be a fucking shit show.
GutsOfThor
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As tempting as it is to tie the hacks to trump, I say let it go. There is no need to keep this shit in the news. Hell, repubs will probably start saying shit like, "Democrats can't even secure their own severs, how are they supposed to secure the country?"
Let it go!
Fucking Christ.
Let it go!
Fucking Christ.
Coriolanus
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No one has ever been disappointed by bearforce 1.
User 463088
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Slightly disappointed would be the perfect time for my sexual memoirs
You aren't going to make it are you?
What? Tying Trump to Russia is a fantastic, worthwhile thing to do, politically and for its social merit.
Spoiled Milk
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whenever something crazy happens at the DNC like Bill getting egged or BernieOrBusters shouting "Rape Debbie" we have to all collectively shout in the thread "joder"
VendettaRed07
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Literally.
Are a bunch of them planning to fart and shit their pants in order to stink up the convention?
I think they are actually going to go through with it
Don't worry about them. They were unreliable voters from the very beginning. They weren't going to vote for the democratic candidate in November, they are simply trying to cause a scene just because they weren't able to hijack the Democratic party. They are quite the <1%.
I think people are worried about the optics.
A roll call vote on what?
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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I'm just beyond irritated about how everything was handled today and still is.....tomorrow will probably calm me down....it better. Oddly enough though, not diablosing....
Any political system you can devise will be classified as an oligarchy with your liberal definition. If it describes everything, it's not a useful word, so we need to give it a much more restricted definition - USA does not qualify.
Even so it was still bound to happen. In the end it will only feed into the 'burners' echo chamber and not go beyond that. They are unredeemable at this point so we must move on.
If instead of ethnic cleansing and global war the Nazis were focused on holding really clean political conventions you guys would all be Nazis, jesus.
Here is a peace offering in the form of a Politico article about how DWS really was a terrible DNC head.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-226100
Here is a peace offering in the form of a Politico article about how DWS really was a terrible DNC head.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-226100
Hopefully this is a minority of Bernie supporters. They've done a great job getting practical changes to the platform, the DNC and the rules, but this close to the convention it starts to become counterproductive. Bernie should probably make a more public statement encouraging some tempering of the fervor.
I get that. I think most were just expecting a lot of this to go off without any infighting.
User 463088
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Like, if I could go to sleep tomorrow and wake up on Friday, I would. No lie.
These are a bunch of privileged (mostly white, mostly male) people who don't have a god damn clue. None at all. Their fee-fees got hurt because they didn't get exactly what they felt entitled to (and there is a sense of entitlement about them, there's no question at all). They've never lived a life where their very existence wasn't in question because of who and what they are. Hell, this is probably the first time in their life they didn't get exactly what they wanted.
The alternative is LITERALLY a fascist. Like, this isn't "LOLOL Dubya is such a fascist guis..." We're talking an actual, honest to goodness fascist. And they're sit there bitching about TPP and whatever? And, for the first time in my life, I don't know how to engage with these people because they are seemingly incapable of compromising. They got almost every, single thing they wanted from the platform. They got their wish about superdelegates, even though most of them probably (and unfortunately) won't vote again.
And, ya, I'm pissy because, gosh dang it, Hillary earned this fucking nomination after all the shit she's been through. She earned it by working her ass off for votes and delegates and states. But it's just never freaking good enough.
I'm not saying we're going to lose, that's not my point. My point is after the shit show of last week this should be a slam dunk, no issue convention. But, again, it can't be because, of course not. We're liberals (supposedly) and we have to make shit way harder than it has to be.
(And this isn't all Bernie supporters. Not even a majority of them. I'm talking about the ones that are doing this stuff.)
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That's the danger of attacking the party you are running for with accusations of corruption. Sanders fucked up and considering the historic number of concessions he got, he better get his shit together.
metalslimer
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They don't know because they don't know anything about the political process. It's fucking exasperating have to deal with people who are that belligerent on the same side as you
FRAWD
Coriolanus
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po1337co said:
Thanks obama!
well, that totally didn't bite the party in the ass, eh? Yes, im aware that this isn't new news, but gods does it still annoy me.
I mean he already endorsed. I'm sure he'll reinforce that tomorrow and hopefully he'll throw in some language to his supporters about calming down.
Other than that this is the fringe and unfortunately they couldn't unite against a man like Trump.
I think "letting this go" would be a mistake for one reason:
Wikileaks very, very likely has more emails.
They said they do. Jeff Weaver earlier today even noted that all the emails leaked only cover a small period of the primaries. And, I dunno, if I were trying to sabotage my opponent's elections, slowly leaking the emails over the course of their primary, thus guaranteeing it dominated the entire week, would make a whole lot of sense.
I do think this is something Dems need to stay ahead of like they did today.
Republicans aren't going to want to let this die.
Bernie holdouts aren't going to want to let this die.
The media won't want to let this die.
And Putin certainly won't want to let this die.
Tying this to Russia (and to Trump), makes this a much bigger deal than the DNC and provides a bit of cover.
I dunno, I guess we'll see how this week goes. But nobody should be surprised it this only the first email dump.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I'll admit that it's difficult to say if Sanders ran the clean campaign he
Edit: I can't find any directly said promises on the matter, so I edited. However, he did explicitly say he would run a positive campaign.
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