You're right. I need to take a step back. Has just been jarring to see the outcome (trump as the nominee) that some (including myself) were pulling for on the assumption that it was demographic suicide is so close in the short term. Think its important to understand what you posted that the country really is close to 50/50 split, regardless.
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You're right. I need to take a step back. Has just been jarring to see the outcome (trump as the nominee) that some (including myself) were pulling for on the assumption that it was demographic suicide is so close in the short term. Think its important to understand what you posted that the country really is close to 50/50 split, regardless.
nature boy
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Warren, Michelle Obama and Sanders all tonight?
Lot of firepower for one day only.
Lot of firepower for one day only.
Does he still get to gavel the weekly OT thread?
What's the use of doing that? People will just twist her words.
To be fair. With all that's happening. It's kinda needed. That's a strong opening salvo.
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Y'all are a bigger mess than me.
Dubbedinenglish
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I would like to congratulate Kristoffer on getting the nomination. I also urge everyone to post their conscience.
Black Republican
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a big foaming mess
Spoiled Milk
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Dubbedinenglish
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I will be organizing a twerk-in to protest this!
good to see she's still out there working and not taking this time as a resting period.
Spoiled Milk
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I could have gotten retromelon to do it! Don't abuse my never ending charity, because there is an end to it.
VendettaRed07
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This convention better be fucking amazing.
balladofwindfishes
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Good on him. He doesn't want progressives to embarrass themselves.
GutsOfThor
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Why is no one talking about General George Allen endorsing Clinton?
We'll see. In the end Bernie is a politician but his delegates are true believers. This was always the danger in stringing them along.
Case in point:
Yup. Gotta give him credit here. Hopefully he reiterates it in his speech.
We demand a roll call.
minor effort
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This election has stopped being fun and has now become psychologically draining. It's to the point where if some all-powerful arbiter flew in and said they could end the 2016 election today, but the price to pay would be a Romney-level Republican being awarded the presidency, I'd probably be weak enough to consider it.
I picked a hell of a year to curtail drinking.
I picked a hell of a year to curtail drinking.
NYCmetsfan
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A lot of them are working families supporters.
I know some delegates. A lot of them aren't loyal Dems. They hate Hillary and want to bomb throw
If it comes down to it, pretty sure Bernie can replace them with alternates.
NYCmetsfan
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Did I call this? He's gonna put her over the top.
What exactly does this mean? Wouldn't this potentially make his delegates madder?
For the life of me I don't get why Bernie and his supporters, including delegates, are acting like they actually won.
I see headlines and bottom line break news alerts how Bernie isn't happy with the Kaine pick or that his camp thinks its giving him the shaft.
Honestly WTF? This is the time to put aside the fact you lost and just work to get her elected. And now we have to hear about how you don't like the vp pick? It isn't up to you? Nor does she have to pick the candidate you like because you had a strong primary.
Man I really like Bernie and wished he was the candidate but this nonsense is too much now. Doesn't help that Hillary continues to do the dumbest things like now hiring DWS in her campaign.
WTF are the democrats doing?
I see headlines and bottom line break news alerts how Bernie isn't happy with the Kaine pick or that his camp thinks its giving him the shaft.
Honestly WTF? This is the time to put aside the fact you lost and just work to get her elected. And now we have to hear about how you don't like the vp pick? It isn't up to you? Nor does she have to pick the candidate you like because you had a strong primary.
Man I really like Bernie and wished he was the candidate but this nonsense is too much now. Doesn't help that Hillary continues to do the dumbest things like now hiring DWS in her campaign.
WTF are the democrats doing?
RastaMentality
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I kept wondering who the keynoter would be when it's obvious it'd be Forma.
Voysa Reezun
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What will you guys all freak out about when Hillary is up by six to eight points post-convention next week?
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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In-between convention polls are weird to freak out about.
Unless you're alarmed that Republicans were excited after a four day Klan rally in which they wanted so badly to execute HRC. I mean, that is alarming, but hey, people suck.
Unless you're alarmed that Republicans were excited after a four day Klan rally in which they wanted so badly to execute HRC. I mean, that is alarming, but hey, people suck.
thestopsign
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That is a perfect, unifying first night of speeches.
Spiritreaver
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Oh boy Reddit is going to be a mess Wednesday, lol.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
An 11- to 13-point swing in a week?
Roland_Gunner
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Now that my diablosing has died down some its actually a really good sign that both candidates are in NC today. Clinton going after a Romney state while Trump defends it is a much better indicator of where the race is today than some volatile polls.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Last week and the polling tightening probably pushed him to do the right thing. I'm glad he had a breaking point.
balladofwindfishes
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Wouldn't be unheard of for a convention bounce.
NYCmetsfan
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Seriously this is pretty much it. But I still don't think it moves people to Trump. The only thing I can see them having is her server ans possibily deleted emails.
That being said holding them till October is a big gamble and I have to think releasing them in the primary (they'd have had to have had them for 4 years!) Or right after would do more damge.
Idk what an October release does and if it moves people.
The DNC leaks were perfectly timed since they were hacked to late to really change the primary.
The wikileaks stuff also was pretty common - but that's in lieu of the various major cyberbreaches we've had (Sony, Google, etc) the last couple of years.
The poll apparently didn't include any (or many) 18-34 year olds ¯\_(ツ_/¯
When they start voting consistently they will get more share
Seconded. Lock Kev up.
As for the polls, even Silver has openly said that the Election NowCast polls are specifically for people to panic over because people like panicking.
"Polls-plus is the most accurate, historically. But the now-cast is fun if you like to panic!"
I'll start worrying about the polls by Labor Day. Our goal is to have at least a 5 pt advantage (which is my current model for post DNC bump); and try to push it to 7 to prepare for the inevitable October surprise (which I think will be leaked Clinton server e-mails and the Goldman Sachs transcripts). We'll need a lot of help from Bernie and Warren to start solidifying that progressive hold to get through those (if those end up being what happens).
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