balladofwindfishes
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This poll seems kind of old for them to be posting it now. A lot has happened in July that could shift those numbers all around, although it's encouraging.
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This poll seems kind of old for them to be posting it now. A lot has happened in July that could shift those numbers all around, although it's encouraging.
Fuck fuck fuck fuck. Email leaks, Bernie Bros, DWS, non college educated whites, RUSSIANS, Trump magic, Clinton unfavorables. WE'RE FUUUUUUUUCKED!!!!
Oh wait, what?
It's interesting. If this was another time, or the target Republican, there'd be discussions of cyber-war.
I really want to know what your moderate voter thinks about this.
Sorry. Its just with how negative the OT has been lately, I think its starting to affect me. I dont have anywhere in real life to talk about this stuff.
It's more that Trump is like Teflon. Nothing sticks to him. Bernie voters going in on the DNC will stick to Hillary.
Stop.
When did all the FBI/Comey stuff happen? I don't even remember anymore
Something to remember before freaking it is, by any reasonable person, Trump and the GOP had a terrible convention last week in terms of optics. And somehow he still got a poll bump, because battlelines are drawn.
There will be some poor optics this week. There will be some dumb dumb screwups, but it won't matter. The poll fluctuations will still happen because the big speeches to motivate your base is what matters. Everything else is just for political junkies like us. The real road to swing independents starts later around debate season. Now is where we see what the parties do.
There will be some poor optics this week. There will be some dumb dumb screwups, but it won't matter. The poll fluctuations will still happen because the big speeches to motivate your base is what matters. Everything else is just for political junkies like us. The real road to swing independents starts later around debate season. Now is where we see what the parties do.
I know but you have to remember. It's the internet. People thrive off negativity. Unfortunately in our country the media does as well and they all have agendas..for better or worse.
If you need to talk about anything. You can in here. You'll get some reassurance sure, but you'll also get nuanced responses.
nature boy
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Indeed, but several polls have shown the GA might be up for grabs.
cartoon_soldier
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DNC seems like it is going to be a clusterfuck
thestopsign
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Jon Oliver put it good perspective: we are warriors of fact fighting in a war of feelings. Shit is frustrating.
People shouldn't be depressed, but zoning out is almost as bad.
Folks are going to need to go to work so that we win this.
The Lamonster
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They've gone full circle!
Some of my most liberal friends sound like right-wingers these days. It's fucking disgusting. Weak minded fools.
I find it intensely silly that the Greens are pushing against Clinton so strongly. If there is anything more badly damaged under a Trump presidency, it would be environmental policy. Subsidies would disappear, more coal, less government research funding etc etc. A full blown climate change denier, not even a dog whistler, in the White House.
Also if Trump wins, say goodbye to anything Obama can't veto. These same progressives will watch everything they fought for get overturned. Still, that's no consolation. It's just irony.
Edit: Either I've gone mad or the world has gone mad.
Also if Trump wins, say goodbye to anything Obama can't veto. These same progressives will watch everything they fought for get overturned. Still, that's no consolation. It's just irony.
Edit: Either I've gone mad or the world has gone mad.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't think they have anything major. They're only working from emails from within DNC staff, so what could possibly be in there?
They're just trying to stir up Bernie people, and will likely continue to drip feed in more emails about that stuff.
I also wouldn't be surprised if some emails get doctored or removed from context.
if its any comfort, the GE polls are only a surrogate marker.
Its always boils the electoral map
Trump needs all 3 - FL, OH, PA.
Or if he loses PA, but gets FL and OH, then he needs all 4 of NV, NH, IA, and NC (although thats probably a strong lean R) to muster up a tie (269-269)
If Clinton locks down FL then its almost a guaranteed victory
That being said, complacency is dangerous and we all need to vote.
Its always boils the electoral map
Trump needs all 3 - FL, OH, PA.
Or if he loses PA, but gets FL and OH, then he needs all 4 of NV, NH, IA, and NC (although thats probably a strong lean R) to muster up a tie (269-269)
If Clinton locks down FL then its almost a guaranteed victory
That being said, complacency is dangerous and we all need to vote.
Joe Shlabotnik
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To be fair that just barely catches Comey's smackdown, so that poll is pretty useless as a current picture.
She needs to go home and not come out until after the election, and she would be given some position somewhere then.
But... Trump is a Clinton plant?!
The one thing that keeps me sane in an environment of uncertainly is the fact that we are on the good side of history. We will fight to keep this world from being consumed by hatred and bigotry. We will fight to overcome injustices, prejudices and ignorance and in the end, we will win as we've always done.
I agree and I do believe we'll win in November. But God DAMN we make shit harder than it needs to be. The party should at the very least be unified right now. We shouldn't have to deal with boo's and Bernie loyalists chanting "Lock her up!"
At this point those supporters should just vote Trump. They sound like republicans anyway or at the least don't mind if he's elected.
Nothing as far as I can tell. Maybe a wonky debate schedule (that got amended anyway)? It's part of why this shit is so dumb. Morons want her head because of "feelings".
If @BernieSanders repudiates the Democratic Party that betrayed him, I'd welcome him into @GreenPartyUS to continue the revolution, Stein posted on Twitter on Saturday afternoon.
Steins comments come in the wake of a massive leak of emails from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) this weekend that revealed party officials' plans to undermine Sanders's presidential campaign.
Go away, Jill.
Steins comments come in the wake of a massive leak of emails from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) this weekend that revealed party officials' plans to undermine Sanders's presidential campaign.
Go away, Jill.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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....what
They are just individuals who were looking for a 'non-establishment' candidate. They were unsuccessful in hijacking the Democratic party and most likely will vote for orange turd just because they only want to send a message. It is indeed a dangerous mindset they have but there is nothing we can do about it. If just hearing orange turd talk is not enough to put them off than they are beyond hope.
Joe Shlabotnik
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The primaries would have ended in March with NY and CA in Super Tuesday like they were in 2008 but I don't know how much control she had over that.
Spoiled Milk
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Changing my avatar to support a true hero. None of you know any loyalty!
BotoxAgent
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it's so great that Bernie hasn't never even looked at her direction. Everyone knows she's a dumpster fire.
I wonder about that. There are many individuals preoccupied with optics and the 'fixing of the system' before thinking about addressing injustices.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Wait, it is Monday already?
Everyone remembers what happened to Mike Gravel.
Its why Trump didn't run as an independent and why Bloomberg didn't run.
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