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I'd like to think it's to show the country how fucking stupid all of them are.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT8| No, Donald. You don't.
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They gotta say some bullshit to placate their base.
Yall lets just move on and stop worrying about the fringe group of Bernie Supporters who are never going to vote for Clinton. After tonight. That segment is done and really we shouldn't hear their boos anymore for the remainder of this convention.
Lets focus on how good this night was especially after the rocky start.
Retromelon
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That Bernie speech was life giving. If only he won..sadface
brianmcdoogle
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Here's some good news for you!
Dem's back under likely control threshold of the House!
Black Mamba
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Trump now complaining CBS gave him hard questions and Hillary/Kaine easy ones.
POOR BABY. lolz.
POOR BABY. lolz.
He can't stay on message for shit.
I won't say that I'm not somewhat concerned about centralized media power, but this really does nothing to affect that increased centralization here at home. Slippery slopes are considered a fallacy for a reason. Just because we give them what's in the TPP doesn't mean we approve something we'd consider an actual encroachment. Now, if you consider what's in TPP past the line by itself, that's fine. But if it's short of the line, or we're already past your line, then for me that's not a reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, as long as I'm using cliches.
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All good points. But what small businesses that are media companies suffer due to piracy over seas?
Also who says China will over take us? Certainly at their current rate but things are slowing in China. http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-economic-growth-slows-to-6-9-on-year-in-2015-1453169398. Certainly they can't keep it up forever.
But our jobs and things are already on the way out and it's not due to China. It's due to the advancement of technology and the eventually automation of tons of jobs.
I wouldn't say it's a slippery slope as in the past they have always done things to centralize their wealth and power which I linked they took and ran with it.
this is what it was before
idk why the price is wrong. it comes from the Daily News twitter
thought this was fake when I first saw this post. what a turnaround lol
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The new GOP tactic to divert attention away from their blatant racism is now, "No, YOU are the racist ones!"
Seriously.
Michelle Obama saved America
GutsOfThor
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Awwwww pobrecito!
New?
AntraxSuicide
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Only in echo chamber-y states where they can mitigate President Trump. I've met zero Bernie or Bust people at the University of Mississippi; people here know how far this shit can go.
As for that last point, those companies do lose more money overseas than they do domestic. It's why we mention their domestic box office instead of the total one; studios get more of the take on domestic whereas they lose more of it overseas. There's also much less of a secondary market since DVDs and whatnot are popular here while piracy is substantial in some countries.
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For the smaller businesses, I was mostly on the topic of businesses suing nations, which isn't really something to talk about for media companies. I wasn't clear.
For China, it's less about overtaking us directly and more about reducing their influence. Economic influence is a huge method of gaining political influence; in a purely competitive lens, we as a nation would rather that as few states as possible would choose China over the US in any choice. Reducing their influence across several metrics is the goal there. I completely agree that China won't be overtaking us outright; I generally think that's a bit of fearmongering.
And yes, the jobs thing (with regard to China taking jobs) is technological. But think of it like this; I'm here in Mississippi and I've got this cactus in my yard. Now, it's been going well for awhile, but it's honestly just not the right climate for it to survive long-term. I do know someone in AZ though who's got a blackberry bush that would be great in this climate. Clearly the better move is to exchange our plants.
The issue for Dems is explaining this to people who really liked my cactus, and turning them in blackberry fans. Dems (for political expedience) will never state outright that some fields are just obsolete, with no clear replacement (this isn't a telgraph -> telephone thing). We need massive programs that will get manufacturing workers the skills to get the new careers that we'll be bringing over after increased trade.
I wish he would have talked more directly to the Bernie or Bust crowd.
Ziltoidia 9
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Went looking for the gavel, but found the Gravel!
And_Gignac
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Crying rn tbh.
Brawndo Addict
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After seeing those interviews on MSNBC I'm honestly not sure there is anything that Bernie could say that would get them to come around. I know it's stereotyping but they all looked very young and this is probably their first major election; they likely came of age during the Obama years and have no real memory of the Bush presidency or the 2000 election or who Ralph Nader was.
The Rubiocoaster never ends.
UltimaPooh
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Fair enough, there is a secondary piracy market.
But losing money over seas on their ticket sales because they didn't negotiate a better percentage than they do in the US? They don't need to be a part of the TPP for that.
Frank the Great
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Haha Triumph just photo-bombed Senator Merkely.
Retromelon
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*hugs and starts sobbing into shoulder*
AntraxSuicide
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I have no clue how those revenue losses look, so I can't comment on the need for TPP in these discussions. To my knowledge, it's not strictly a single negotiation that leads to that decrease (i.e. I don't believe they just talk to a distributor and get 35% instead of 40% in such clear terms). But yes, I generally agree that I can't make that argument for straight revenue on the box office.
I think for a lot of them. It's their first time paying attention and being in the political process. So I guess I can't blame them for being passionate. We should applaud that honestly.
But they can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It seems a lot of them idolize the man and not his policies which they fought tooth and nail to get into the dem platform.
Me too!
Officerrob
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Losing your first "real" election is rough, but this race wasn't even as close as 2008.
RastaMentality
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If Michelle's ever held any bad feelings towards her, you would've never known. I think the Obamas truly admire Hillary now.
Dubbedinenglish
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Of tonight Booker's "We will rise" and Michelle's "I wake up everyday in house built by slaves" are going to stick for a long time. Definitely the most impact.
Box of Kittens
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If he goes 3-2-1 it's over.
Basileus777
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Chris Christie saved us from President Rubio.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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They know what it's like first hand to face the conservative entertainment machine. Raising kids in the face of that immorality is an experience, I can imagine.
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Think about it; some have trashed Hillary like she was the devil incarnate, in front of their own friends, families, and colleagues or classmates, and looked at Bernie as a savoir. Turning around isn't possible for many of them, they would actually feel shame to say they will vote for Hillary, like being mocked. They feel like they can't follow him where he is going even if they want to.
It's a sort of religious guilt. Something like feeling betrayed when Jesus praised the son who returned rather than the one who stayed by him all along. Those people will have a lot of trouble accepting that they were mistaken in their convictions; not of supporting Sanders, but of having gone to the deep end in doing so.
It's a sort of religious guilt. Something like feeling betrayed when Jesus praised the son who returned rather than the one who stayed by him all along. Those people will have a lot of trouble accepting that they were mistaken in their convictions; not of supporting Sanders, but of having gone to the deep end in doing so.
In other news trump mentioned this to a crowd in North Carolina recently.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/things-are-getting-very-weird
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/things-are-getting-very-weird
Uhhh...
That.
Some mutual respect and also an understanding that Candidate Clinton and Employee Clinton are two very different people.
NYCmetsfan
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I still don't know why tactical it makes sense to release anything like her server emails in October rather than during the primary or convention.
And they'd have to have had it for 3+ years
Could be wrong but these moves look like only Clinton foundation emails are the only scary possibility but I don't think they're bad
andthebeatgoeson
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Glad we are officially calling Bernie stans,Busters. Back to greatest timeline.
Beyond, you know, plunging Eastern Europe into an irredentist's wet dream wartorn hellscape, how the fuck is running NATO like a mafia protection racket ethical?
Fucking fascist.
Yeah, that seems a much better way to put it than Bernie supporters. This way people don't mistake some of the scorn that was meant to be directed only at his insanely hardcore fans being unreasonable.
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