Basileus777
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Not compared to 28 million. That number suggests that streaming is a small part of the audience.
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Not compared to 28 million. That number suggests that streaming is a small part of the audience.
whyamihere
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Also these numbers don't include PBS and a few other smaller nets, so we won't get the full picture until tonight.
Ultimately, both final nights of the convention are going to have been viewed by a similarly large amount of people in a metric that means little in terms of November.
A lot of the smaller nets aren't counted in that 28 million number. PBS + those will probably push it past 30 million.
IggyChooChoo
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Trump may have had more viewers, but Gallup says his speech is the worst they've ever tested:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/28/1553840/-Gallup-Trump-s-speech-the-worst-ever-tested
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/28/1553840/-Gallup-Trump-s-speech-the-worst-ever-tested
Dubbedinenglish
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Cruz fuckery I think boosted Trump. DNC got "safe" after night 3 with the big guns coming iut.
I can see a decent make up of liberal view on PBS or CSPAN to avoid Jeffery Lord and whatever flavor of the day was on MSNBC
whyamihere
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Also, it does not include Univision. When it's all said and done, they will be at parity. Also, some of those broadcast numbers need to be time-shifted since it went out of primetime.
BotoxAgent
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ding ding ding
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
I can't resist defending the decision. So many people completely misunderstand what it held, let alone understanding why that holding was the correct one.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It isn't surprising that a relatively stock politician like Hillary gets less viewers than a shock n' awe reality show candidate like Trump.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Something does have to explain why the numbers for both conventions were lower than the past. Whether it's all the other ways to watch or people just waiting for bits and pieces to be shown online/on tv the next day. There is a change occurring on how people absorb these things.
whyamihere
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Again, it's likely when you tally all the viewership in, she probably will get the same or higher than Trump. Finals don't come out until the afternoon.
These are two unpopular candidates.
eBay Huckster
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Just gonna point out that the only reason the ratings were preliminarily lower was 6 million less angry white men watching Fox News week-over-week
whyamihere
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This is unreal (from the 4th decision)
I'm not surprised honestly that the DNC's ratings were lower since I'm sure whether you love him or hate him, most people wanted to see what Trump would actually say compared to Hillary.
Still, this sucks if only cause now Trump will be crowing about it forever.
That was one lame ass ad.
Still, this sucks if only cause now Trump will be crowing about it forever.
That was one lame ass ad.
Frank the Great
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Plenty of people smarter than you or I think it was the wrong decision. Arrogance is unbecoming.
Also, I think Buckley v. Valeo is wrong. People can disagree on stuff.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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We don't need to unskew ratings when 3 out of the 4 days, the DNC ratings were a lot better and the DNC as a whole went well.
No need to panic over ratings.
No need to panic over ratings.
I want to take your post as a sincere divergence of opinion based on your own legitimate views on the matter, but the Antonin Scalia avatar makes it hard to take you seriously on this.
TV is dead, streaming is forever.
nature boy
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Conventions are usually later, late August-early September.
whyamihere
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~Ratings aren't final until the afternoon and comparing fast nationals to final ratings is an exercise in futility~
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, the likelihood that Hillary was going to say anything crazy was pretty low whereas the odds that Trump might call Hillary a bitch on live television were far higher.
It's the same reason the debates will draw record ratings, and why Trump has a lot to lose in the debates.
It's the same reason the debates will draw record ratings, and why Trump has a lot to lose in the debates.
It's also pretty early in the year because of when the Olympics are. 4 and 8 years ago the Olympics were earlier in the Summer and pushed the conventions to closer to the general election.
The August Olympics pushed these both way up in the cycle when less people are engaged.
They are also less popular candidates which I'm sure plays a role
DataStream
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I think that many people will only ever see the highlights or speakers they are interested in given youtube video and facebook video. 4 nights of 3-5 hours of programming is a lot to ask of a society that is used to impulsively seeing anything they want at any time.
I would put Trump saying something legitimately offensive or some slur at a debate as plausible. Do I expect it? Nah, but definitely possible to slip and go one step too far.
If he was gonna call someone a bitch to their face he's had plenty of chances to already to Megan Kelly and others. I don't expect anything more than a tasteless dig at looks tbh.
Orbis Tabula
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So, over on Discord, we think we cracked why Trump is always talking about boning his daughter. Basically, there's something called genetic sexual attraction where you're attracted to people in your family, and it's believed that this is counteracted by a form of reverse sexual imprinting called the Westermarck effect. Basically, people who you spend formative years around are people you tend not to want to plow. So when you grow up with your siblings and family members, you grow up normal, but if you're apart a lot, you never experience that reverse imprinting so then when you meet, it's fuck city because you're so overwhelmingly hot to each other.
So, basically Trump was such an negligent absentee father that his brain never taught him that he shouldn't mack on Ivanka.
Use this information as you will.
So, basically Trump was such an negligent absentee father that his brain never taught him that he shouldn't mack on Ivanka.
Use this information as you will.
RastaMentality
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Deadline did the same yesterday but then the total viewers ended up higher.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
It isn't arrogance to recognize that people don't know what the case was about, or what the holding was. Neither is it arrogance to believe that it was correct and defend it's correctness. If that were truly your position, I don't see how you could tolerate participating in this thread, where basically everyone presents their beliefs as correct, even though there are plenty of people smarter than them who believe otherwise.
So turn off avatars.
Btw, what's all this talk about states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota trending red? Is it cause Obama won those states by smaller margins in 2012 than he did in 2008? I figured that was just due to people not being as excited to vote for him the second time around.
cartoon_soldier
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Large non college white population especially PA. Due to economy lagging not enough migration instate
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Surprised it's not higher to be honest. Politics in the USA is so partisan now, especially on the R side, that it doesn't matter what people say. You're not fighting for principles or ideals, you are fighting for your team and whatever your team does is good and whatever the other team does is bad.
Plus, you know, all the racism, homophobia, sexism and general bigotry. That's the other big part.
User 463088
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We didn't even make it 24 hours without analy fixating on something. Well at least we're consistent !
cartoon_soldier
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Que?
Wouldn't there be two Ls in anally
Well, Adam usually only has one
we are in panic mode now.
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population growth is around Philly with a dark spot in the middle, which consists of State College, along with a bit in Pitt area.
Population losses are everywhere that is typically red
Dubbedinenglish
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It's just Hopium withdrawals
User 463088
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Ya no idea why my phone dropped one of the l's. But you're right should have been two.
Just all the obsession over ratings takes me back to freaking out that Entetprise was going to be canceled or something
Also there are Hillarys America ads all over mobile right now sad!
Joe Shlabotnik
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Diablosing over a 10% difference in preliminary ratings might be a new low in here, which is saying something.
A ton of people watched both speeches. More will watch some or all of it today. The TV ratings are lower overall compared to previous years because cable is dying.
A ton of people watched both speeches. More will watch some or all of it today. The TV ratings are lower overall compared to previous years because cable is dying.
RustyNails
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Reuters/Ipsos +5 hillary poll is extremely confusing. It was conducted between 25 and 28, and it has Hillary's and Obama's favs plummeting. Noisy as shit poll.
User 463088
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Quick question that my bf asked and I think o know the answer to. If there is a 50/50 tie in the senate which party is given the leadership? Is it the party that holds the White House since the Veep is President of the Senste and would be the tie breaker as needed?
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