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[VanMardigan]

My college buddy just texted me that he wonders what Melania's Turn It In report looked like.

 

[nature boy]

Best part of that Upshot page is the scenario mapper. Basically if Clinton wins Florida, Trump has to win all nine of the other most competitive states or pull in something off the list like Colorado or Wisconsin.

Yeah FL+PA is the firewall.

But Trump needs a lot of latino support in FL to even stand a chance.
I think the Clinton campaign understands the importance of FL, hence the VP announcement happening there,

 

[Spoiled Milk]

What if all of this doesn't matter and Trump still gets 47% of the vote? What if Trump proves that all of the time, money, and effort spent running a campaign just isn't consequential and all that matters is having views that resonate with the base?

 

[Y2Kev]

Reading Nate godcohn's new model write up (which was not written by him) is interesting. 53shi8 gives Hillary an 8% chance of getting less than 160 electoral votes? Wat?

 

[User 463088]

Yeah FL+PA is the firewall.

But Trump needs a lot of latino support in FL to even stand a chance.
I think the Clinton campaign understands the importance of FL, hence the VP announcement happening there,

Hillary is also a better fit for Florida than Obama was, in my opinion. The Latino numbers are the same, but the ex-northerners in the far south are probably (consciously or otherwise) more trusting of a white woman than a black man.

That's just my cynical read, though.

 

[Boke1879]

Again. I'm glad the race looks closer. While I want Clinton to blow Trump out of the water I also don't want anyone to get complacent. She just needs to put in the work, get a good bump from the VP announcement and have a great DNC which she should have.

 

[thebloo]

8% drop in the last couple of weeks. Not good.

It's 2%. She's never been above 80%.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

Oh shit, Gabe Sherman says that Megyn Kelly dropped a whole stack of dimes on Ailes! His skevy ass is DEAD:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/sources-kelly-said-ailes-sexually-harassed-her.html

 

[User 463088]

So, do we all agree that one of the Trump spawnlings was responsible for crafting that speech? I totally think one of his younglings had something to do with it. And, somehow, they're too stupid to just blame someone else in case the person talks.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Oh shit, Gabe Sherman says that Megyn Kelly dropped a whole stack of dimes on Ailes! His skevy ass is DEAD:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/sources-kelly-said-ailes-sexually-harassed-her.html

The plot thickens

 

[Teggy]

Look who's a tire fire again

Nick CorasanitiVerified account
‏@NYTnickc
Katrina Pierson, Trump camp spokeswoman: "This concept that Michelle Obama invented the English language is absurd."

 

[Slayven]

So, do we all agree that one of the Trump spawnlings was responsible for crafting that speech? I totally think one of his younglings had something to do with it. And, somehow, they're too stupid to just blame someone else in case the person talks.

It is the only thing that makes sense

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Oh shit, Gabe Sherman says that Megyn Kelly dropped a whole stack of dimes on Ailes! His skevy ass is DEAD:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/sources-kelly-said-ailes-sexually-harassed-her.html

Gabriel Sherman has caught his white whale

 

[User 463088]

Dude on the right's fly was open.

HAHAHAHA

 

[PantherLotus]

What if all of this doesn't matter and Trump still gets 47% of the vote? What if Trump proves that all of the time, money, and effort spent running a campaign just isn't consequential and all that matters is having views that resonate with the base?

This is a very real polisci inquiry into this election. But not for nothing -- "views that resonate with the base" don't come from nowhere. They're crafted over years, decades. The base is pushed and manipulated over time through numerous channels. Events, feedback, and outcomes do play into this.

So while Trump might dispel some larger myths around presidential politics and minutiae, 'this' all still matters and is a result of decades of racist, bigoted fear-mongering. The candidate still matters, the platform still matters, leadership still matters.

 

[thestopsign]

The Melania speech is all over my Facebook now and my feed has typically remained mostly quiet since the primaries ended.

 

[nature boy]

Hillary is also a better fit for Florida than Obama was, in my opinion. The Latino numbers are the same, but the ex-northerners in the far south are probably (consciously or otherwise) more trusting of a white woman than a black man.

That's just my cynical read, though.

Well unless there's a mass white turnout for Trump, he'll need %40+ of the latino vote in Florida. Haven't seen anything in the Florida polls that shows he's even close to that.
So that plus the ex-northerners should push her across the line.


Trump is so fucking stupid and petty when he continues to attack Kasich.

 

[Penguin]

Hill's interns are trying to name all of Trump's lawsuits in under 4 hours

https://www.facebook.com/hillarycli...live_video_explicit&notif_id=1468945032087605

 

[User 463088]

Hill's interns are trying to name all of Trump's lawsuits in under 4 hours

https://www.facebook.com/hillarycli...live_video_explicit&notif_id=1468945032087605

That shirt is a crime against my senses.

 

[Boombloxer]

The Melania speech is all over my Facebook now and my feed has typically remained mostly quiet since the primaries ended.

Yep.
I'm just catching up for all of this and it's incredible. Double-down, denials, etc.

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[Wilsongt]

Did CNN and MsNBc order a pair of balls recently?

 

[IggyChooChoo]

So, do we all agree that one of the Trump spawnlings was responsible for crafting that speech? I totally think one of his younglings had something to do with it. And, somehow, they're too stupid to just blame someone else in case the person talks.

Given that their strategy of denial is going to drag out Melania's humiliation, and given how amateurish it was, I think it was a Trumpling who did the plagiarizing, probably Kushner. I haven't heard of any other of them getting involved in the speechwriting process.

 

[TestOfTide]

Oh shit, Gabe Sherman says that Megyn Kelly dropped a whole stack of dimes on Ailes! His skevy ass is DEAD:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/sources-kelly-said-ailes-sexually-harassed-her.html

No wonder the Murdocks decided to fire Ailes. Megan Kelly basically going "You don't own Fox News, Roger. It is co-owned by me and Bill O'Reilly."

 

[HylianTom]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

The plagiarism thing is a non story to me, but the response to it is becoming one. Jesus.

 

[Chichikov]

I need video of Chachi getting roasted

I believe this is it -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZiwmL_1b3M

BTW, if you're wondering, Chachi is right and Obama did in fact say that "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun". Yeah, it's totally out of context, but so was Tamron's Trump quote.
Really, the whole exchange was stupid, fuck, the fact that we're talking to Scott Baio about politics is stupid.
Fuck, the fact that we talk to Scott fucking Baio in 2016 is stupid.

 

[User 463088]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

Hahahahahah


Poor Bob Dole.

 

[Geg]

Well unless there's a mass white turnout for Trump, he'll need %40+ of the latino vote in Florida. Haven't seen anything in the Florida polls that shows he's even close to that.
So that plus the ex-northerners should push her across the line.


Trump is so fucking stupid and petty when he continues to attack Kasich.

Think attacking Kasich will hurt him among Ohio voters?

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

repent you fools.. God is not happy!!

 

[B-Dubs]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

What in the name of shit is even going on there?

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

Holy shit, that's one of two hotels in Sandusky like that, and I'll be there overnight in a few weeks.

 

[nature boy]

Think attacking Kasich will hurt him among Ohio voters?

Absolutely, in a tight swing state he shouldn't be antagonizing the popular Governor. OTOH, he was the republican candidate that won his state with the biggest difference to Trump (could be wrong, though).
And besides, what's the benefit in trashing Kasich, outside of ego?

 

[Grief.exe]

Did CNN and MsNBc order a pair of balls recently?

Maybe watching the speeches at the RNC last night woke them up to just how scary this right wing rhetoric actually is.

The constant fear mongering and lack of accountability last night was legitimately scary to watch.

 

[Teggy]

Hill's interns are trying to name all of Trump's lawsuits in under 4 hours

https://www.facebook.com/hillarycli...live_video_explicit&notif_id=1468945032087605

LOL, those poor kids.


I hope one of the pollsters asks if people think the speech was plagiarized. I am definitely curious of overall m/f and by party.

 

[digdug2k]

Holy cow. Some republican stooge on NPR's forum this morning literally said "David Duke is a racist. Steve King is a racist. But we need to accept them into the party anyway."

 

[TestOfTide]

Hill's interns are trying to name all of Trump's lawsuits in under 4 hours

https://www.facebook.com/hillarycli...live_video_explicit&notif_id=1468945032087605

My phone won't let me view it. Do you have an image of this page?

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

This shit is so absurd. It's kind of understandable since they are in Cleveland but this is such a shitshow.


Someone get Dole out if there!

 

[Wilsongt]

Dude on the right's fly was open.

HAHAHAHA

Yaaaaaaaaaaas!!

Thirsty.gif

 

[Y2Kev]

Well unless there's a mass white turnout for Trump, he'll need %40+ of the latino vote in Florida. Haven't seen anything in the Florida polls that shows he's even close to that.
So that plus the ex-northerners should push her across the line.


Trump is so fucking stupid and petty when he continues to attack Kasich.

Except for quin (which Is real) and some partisan pollsters, Hillary has been up comfortably in Florida.

 

[nature boy]

Front page of Breitbart: Cenk Uygur: ‘No More Establishment Candidate Than Hillary’

 

[pigeon]

So, do we all agree that one of the Trump spawnlings was responsible for crafting that speech? I totally think one of his younglings had something to do with it. And, somehow, they're too stupid to just blame someone else in case the person talks.

So here's my Kremlinology. Costa has this:

It was not immediately clear who was responsible for helping to craft Melania Trump’s remarks since the Trump campaign speechwriting operation is not like most traditional presidential campaigns with a small staff and a narrow chain of command. Instead, the Trump campaign has one main speechwriter, Stephen Miller, and relies on other Trump associates for input. In recent days, for example, Manafort has consulted with two former Reagan speechwriters, Ben T. Elliott and Peter Robinson, on Trump’s upcoming acceptance speech but that pair is not formally part of the campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?postshare=7551468938299633&tid=ss_tw

So a couple of important takeaways here.

First, Trump can't fire his speechwriter. He literally only has ONE SPEECHWRITER. There's nobody to let go!

Secondly, "relies on other Trump associates for input" is a pretty telling phrase, especially with what we know about how Trump works -- that he takes statements that have been drafted and punches them up with adjectives himself.

I suspect that Miller does speeches, circulates them, and then EVERYBODY IN THE TRUMP CIRCLE puts in their edits and suggestions and he pretty much has to just incorporate them. If you've ever worked at a dysfunctional startup, too much input from everybody is a classic problem that destroys effectiveness, because although theoretically "everybody has a voice" in practice it just multiplies the number of executives you have to listen to even though they don't know what they're talking about.

So Miller did a speech. A bunch of people mailed in edits, probably all the Trump kids and friends and whatever. He put them in. One of those edits was probably these Michelle lines. Oops! Committee speechwriting at its finest.

 

[HylianTom]

Just think: if this plagiarism incident hadn't popped-up, how do you think the media would've covered Day 1 today? I'd bet any amount of money that they'd gloss-over the nastier moments.

 

[Slayven]

Just think: if this plagiarism incident hadn't popped-up, how do you think the media would've covered Day 1 today? I'd bet any amount of money that they'd gloss-over the nastier moments.

Probably a mild circle jerk, sprinkled with the never trump shit show.

 

[nature boy]

Except for quin (which Is real) and some partisan pollsters, Hillary has been up comfortably in Florida.

True, but I think some of us are a bit nervous due to how close 2012 (and 2000...) was and the Trump "factor".

She wins Florida and IMO it's over.

 

[TestOfTide]

Not making this up:

There's a norovirus outbreak reported among RNC staffers/attendees at the convention.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/19/norovirus-republican-convention-cleveland/

We need boils and frogs next.

Obviously I'm not going to wish sickness on anyone simply for being a member of the GOP, but what are the chances of this causing the more bigoted speakers to cancel their speeches due to sickness. I assume even if a speaker got affected, they would cancel before risking vomiting on stage.

 

[thebloo]

Front page of Breitbart: Cenk Uygur: ‘No More Establishment Candidate Than Hillary’

Without context, he is not wrong.

 

[nature boy]

Without context, he is not wrong.

It's the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing.

 

[User 463088]

Obviously I'm not going to wish sickness on anyone simply for being a member of the GOP, but what are the chances of this causing the more bigoted speakers to cancel their speeches due to sickness. I assume even if a speaker got affected, they would cancel before risking vomiting on stage.

Didn't you watch last night? A lot of people took a massive shit on that stage.

 

[RustyNails]

Go to CNN frontpage right now. They are going all out. This is going nuclear!

 

[Clefargle]

Front page of Breitbart: Cenk Uygur: ‘No More Establishment Candidate Than Hillary’

He loves them republican talking points something fierce