Eh we are all anxious to just rip off the bandaid lol. Tired of the relentless negativity in the news. Hoping for some positives next week.
vv also yeah. Still she has a campaign event for it. Not sure if she can push it off.
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Eh we are all anxious to just rip off the bandaid lol. Tired of the relentless negativity in the news. Hoping for some positives next week.
vv also yeah. Still she has a campaign event for it. Not sure if she can push it off.
DataStream
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I don't think they will announce until Saturday (maybe even push it to Sunday) at this point. No reason to cut short the news cycles that replay this shitshow.
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Cruz sent out a fundraising email tonight
VendettaRed07
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Fuck it
I'm on Team VILSACK
IF WE ARE GOING BORING LETS GO FUCKIN BORING
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I'm on Team VILSACK
IF WE ARE GOING BORING LETS GO FUCKIN BORING
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Basileus777
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The funny thing is that this is probably going to hurt Cruz come 2020. The guy is not built to survive in the " early frontrunner hated by everyone" role. The guy was already a candidate with pretty narrow appeal within the Republican party and he's just expanding the base of people who will loathe him.
aspiegamer
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This depends a lot on how much Trump is humiliated. If it's a brutal, ruthless defeat, being any single person who refused to submit is a big plus. Through the primaries he's screamed about how disastrous Trump being the nominee would be. If it's close or there's any linger resentment of a Hillary steal or other bullshit, then yeah I'd agree. Also, I'd totally consider Cruz to be someone that tried to primary a Trump in power. That'd be awesome, assuming we survived until 2019.
...I'm getting way too much of a schadenfreude buzz off this tonight, wow. Plus, this would perpetuate the cycle of "we didn't nominate a TRUE conservative!" yet another 4 years and practically assure another Democratic win.
They'll replay it regardless, but with Clinton and her running mate also in the news, they'd be seen as the alternative.
cartoon_soldier
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Let it not be Tim Kaine please.
whyamihere
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There's still time!
(It's Kaine)
Brawndo Addict
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Woah woah woah, wait, the Ingraham photo isn't a photoshop? Why does it have a big Getty images thing on it then? The giant monitor actually displayed that?
NYCmetsfan
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I believe that's a watermark that isn't removed until your purchase the image.
getty sells images to news orgs
edit: Why am I watching CNN at 2:30 am?
StopMakingSense
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It's from a getty images photog.
Brawndo Addict
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Oh okay so people are just hot-linking to Getty's watermarked image, gotcha. I mistakenly assumed a clean copy would have got out there by now, so I just thought someone took a Getty watermarked image of Trump and shopped it in on the monitor.
Wow, that's so crazy now that I know it's actually real.
redmetal86
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This argument between Sellers and Scott though.
NYCmetsfan
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lol I'm like half falling asleep but its kinda keeping me up
Brawndo Addict
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I'm obviously not thinking at peak capacity because I just realized that if someone was going to photoshop something like that they would have removed the Getty images thing right off the bat ><
neurosisxeno
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They're gonna setup an Octagon in the middle of the convention and have a Republican Royal Rumble.
Yeah, Cruz is betting big on buyers' remorse. Not a bad gamble, especially since he ends up looking principled rather than the calculating little weasel he actually is. Gotta respect the play. And thoroughly enjoy yet another ruined night/narrative for team Trump, of course.
I've made my peace with Kaine. Good do-no-harm pick. Solid. Qualified to be president (which is pretty important). Doesn't look like we need anything more.
I've made my peace with Kaine. Good do-no-harm pick. Solid. Qualified to be president (which is pretty important). Doesn't look like we need anything more.
Black Mamba
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This Cruz thing is going to be all anything talks about til Trump speaks.
What a disaster this has been. Remember earlier today I spoke about the important speeches and well, I'll be honest, I never imagined the other possible important one.
The one that undermines the nominee and basically tells them not to vote for them.
hahaha. Oh my god I can't believe this is going on.
What a disaster this has been. Remember earlier today I spoke about the important speeches and well, I'll be honest, I never imagined the other possible important one.
The one that undermines the nominee and basically tells them not to vote for them.
hahaha. Oh my god I can't believe this is going on.
Maybe it's a personal problem of mine. I appreciate the history Hillary has the chance to make if she wins the presidency. But I'm not comforted by the idea of 4 old white people roaming the country for the next several months telling us about the future of the US. Politics is overwhelmingly white as it is and that is a huge problem. I feel like the tickets will extenuate the problem.
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I'm still hoping for Becerra or Warren. I'll take Kaine over Vilsack though.
Pretty much. Seems like we're only complaining about Kaine because there's nothing left to complain about. VP's a boring ass job. Kaine will be perfect for it. Senator is an important job. Warren is perfect where she is. Queen will be president. Racist Orange's campaign will die as it lived: televised live like the bullshit mockery-of-American-values reality TV show it's always been.
All we have to put up with now is genius armchair pundits going, "Republican primary candidates underestimated Trump, look what happened to them!" and "You saying you think you'll win is exactly why you'll lose. You've jinxed it for all Democrats. Even admitting you might win gives Trump All The Power!!!!"
Whatever. I don't even know if she has to keep hitting him for him to lose at this point. She can and will and should anyway. He certainly deserves it. And the wider we can make her winning margin, the better. But he seems...really done. And the RNC aint even over yet.
VendettaRed07
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Virginias senate seat is less safe over a year from now than MA's seat would be in a couple months. Less solid blue, less options to run, better opposition. Kaine is more valuable in the senate than Warren in that regard.
We have a fucking Kennedy! just pick Warren and run him! Son of a bitch ffs
ItWasMeantToBe19
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But with Tim Kaine, we can get a guy that moves the needle not at all in his home state which is already safely blue if Hillary is going to win the election.
I hope Kaine does support abortion now for real because his comments when he was governor or running for it were really bad.
neurosisxeno
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That's why I don't get the Kaine pick. He doesn't add anything to the ticket. If you're gonna go with an older white dude, at least make sure he has Military Experience, or something.
It's probably Kaine (maybe Vilsack).
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Kaine arguing that Community Banks need less oversight seems really not smart?
http://www.donnelly.senate.gov/news...or-rules-to-community-banks-and-credit-unions
I think small banks are generally bad so, uhh, not getting this one.
http://www.donnelly.senate.gov/news...or-rules-to-community-banks-and-credit-unions
I think small banks are generally bad so, uhh, not getting this one.
VendettaRed07
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You don't even have to go back that far. He just said the other week basically "I think abortion is wrong because my religion says it is, but oh well whatever"
ItWasMeantToBe19
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That was Biden as well, but I'm fine with that level.
The 2008 level for Kaine is not acceptable for me though.
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Michael Moore thinks Trump will win the election.
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I think if Hillary picked him, that would be one of the bigger issues she would be interested in knowing what he thinks about.
Kaine is just the wrong pick. And Vilsack and other guy whose name I can't spell off-hand don't seem much better. It's unfortunate to me that Hillary feels she has progressives locked up and is more interested in making a pick to appeal to white male voters who don't support Trump.
Kaine, ugh.
He is not the future of the of party... and if he is, lots of young people aren't going to want to be a part of it. I'm really hoping Hillary sets up a future candidate that has a chance in 2024 and/or uses the VP pick to help bridge the gap with those that think she is not "liberal enough".
He is not the future of the of party... and if he is, lots of young people aren't going to want to be a part of it. I'm really hoping Hillary sets up a future candidate that has a chance in 2024 and/or uses the VP pick to help bridge the gap with those that think she is not "liberal enough".
I don't think that's quite right. Hillary loves the prevent defense, and as discussed constantly in this thread, VPs are all about not screwing up. Hillary wouldn't be trying to appeal to white male voters, she would just be trying to make a pick that nobody can be that mad about.
I still prefer Warren now but whatever. Ultimately it really doesn't matter.
neurosisxeno
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Everyone does. It's universally a better pick. There is nothing to be gained out of picking Kaine for VP. We're already on pace to have the first woman President, are they afraid having 2 women on the ticket will scare voters away or something?
neurosisxeno
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Exactly. I think this is the time for Liberals to go all in, and picking an old white dude from Virginia is like the tap water of candidates.
A lot of people in both parties have looked at a Hillary presidency as an inevitability for the last decade or more, so it almost feels like a dual woman ticket or a not-all-white ticket is needed to make it feel as historic/progressive as it really should... and that makes me kind of sad, actually.
Yes.
A Link to the Past
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Mhmm. I'll be really disappointed if such a boring, uninspired choice like Kaine is made. Especially when he is older and seems to be less liberal than Hillary on certain issues. I want a non-white and/or female VP who, eight years from now, could be prepped to be a Democrat darling.
Plus, the whole issue with losing Virginia in the midterms; I'd rather see someone like Warren, who if she were VP, would most likely not see her previous position controlled by a Republican. Maybe someone like Castro, who not only could accelerate blue Texas, but also is young enough that we would have a younger President who can safely avoid any issues of people questioning his age.
Plus, the whole issue with losing Virginia in the midterms; I'd rather see someone like Warren, who if she were VP, would most likely not see her previous position controlled by a Republican. Maybe someone like Castro, who not only could accelerate blue Texas, but also is young enough that we would have a younger President who can safely avoid any issues of people questioning his age.
No one knows if her VP pick is Kaine for sure. The clinton camp has mostly been quiet about their VP process and have not really given much hints yet. All we know so far is that kaine is one of her VP finalists and that bill favours him. Anyway I wonder what controversy will help define the RNC tommorrow.
Also some unknown FM of a NATO country told a reporter that the election of trump is the end of the west.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/755962430304428033
Also some unknown FM of a NATO country told a reporter that the election of trump is the end of the west.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/755962430304428033
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Vilsack is tight.
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