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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!
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RustyNails
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Am I the only one who feels that it's way too early for Hillary to pull ads out of CO and VA? I can get why they're confident all things considered. I feel when things start to tighten up a little (and they will eventually), panic will start settling in and they will go back to spending there. Just keep a steady flow going even if it's minimal. It's not like raising money is a problem.
Yep. Rombot completely zapped Obama in the first debate. I remember being so depressed.
Yep. Rombot completely zapped Obama in the first debate. I remember being so depressed.
TheLostBigBoss
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Basileus777
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They can pivot if need be. There's little point in spending money in safe states with no Senate races to worry about. Campaigns don't have infinite money, spending in Colorado and Virginia isn't worthwhile at the moment, and probably never will be. Remember that Trump isn't spending there either and has seemingly given up.
theprodigy
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Box of Kittens
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The timing seems about right to be McCain's convention bounce/VP rollout. Palin played very well initially, though she of course eventually became quite the drag on the ticket.
Brawndo Addict
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No in 2008. The graph shows this absolutely monstrous drop but that would have been before the financial crisis I think.
Ah, that's gotta be it, the post-Palin announcement hype followed by the unraveling.
This is so good. I love watching Obama talk behind the scenes, man. I'm so happy he served us as president
And holy shit at the roaring audience when Hillary goes on stage. Damn
NFC doesn't bother me that much unless it's Giants fans. Atlanta is too damn hot lately
Supposedly Priorities is planning on going back on the air at the end of the month, they are just taking a break.
RustyNails
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Sorry brainfart.
It probably could have been that crazy pastor?
It probably could have been that crazy pastor?
The Chosen One
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I think you guys are right.
Lawrence O'Donnel is clearly trolling Trump. :lol :lol :lol
Tonight he's discussing Melania's immigration status. The other night he Lawrence was talking about Trump's mental status. He knows Trump watches MSNBC, so he's clearly trying to get under his skin. :lol
Lawrence O'Donnel is clearly trolling Trump. :lol :lol :lol
Tonight he's discussing Melania's immigration status. The other night he Lawrence was talking about Trump's mental status. He knows Trump watches MSNBC, so he's clearly trying to get under his skin. :lol
Basileus777
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That was in March.
I mean, whatever they are doing is based on their Obama inspired analytics team and experienced political managers. I think they know what they're doing
FloydtheFathead
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It's probably because of RBH.
Palin announcement + RNC were a success for the McCain campaign. And then a week or so later.... the Couric interview and Obama started to recover. Lehman Brothers collapse only accelerated it, and the debates solidified his numbers. Not to mention he was outspending McCain and had a better GOTV operation (which doesn't really show itself in public polling).
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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RBH is in Chicago now, poor city is doomed to bad jokes and burning crotches (only from Sep-Dec).
FloydtheFathead
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The fire still burns though from his multiple attempts at self immolation.
Lmao. I know exactly which tweet this is referencing
In other news HuffPollster is now showing trump averaging around 39.7% in the polls.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
TheLostBigBoss
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lol Don Lemon just said Bullshit on air
whoops!
whoops!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The spin Fox anchors do is unreal.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html?_r=0
79% Hillary now. Can we cross 80 by tomorrow?
79% Hillary now. Can we cross 80 by tomorrow?
What was the context?
TheLostBigBoss
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Talking to Fareed on his article literally called "Trump is a BS artist"
instead of saying BS he let it slip out
djplaeskool
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This election season turned from interesting to concerning to amazing at ludicrous speed.
Can't you say shit on cable? They say asshole on a lot of shows and I know South Park has done shit before.
Palin was at worst a net neutral effect on his campaign. It was Bush+the recession that doomed Republicans that year. Honestly I think she helped more than she hurt; she gave a voice to some real shitheads in that party that would go on to form the core of the tea party.
Heh. Hillary is pretty tough.
people who identify as a plant (lol)
what... the f.
For Hillary to keep her cool with all the shit people say about her
Girl is tenacious as fuck
But he's not a racist cannibal.
Puts a whole new spin on the "I love Hispanics!" taco bowl tweet
Black Mamba
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It's been a long time, but I believe some actual analysis shows she cost 2-3 points to McCain. She was a disastrous pick.
But her rollout plus RNC did help the GOP for a very brief time.
Good article. Interested in checking out the book as well.
Cable isn't regulated, so yes, CNN could let it's anchors say whatever they wanted, but they have to balance it with audience expectations and what advertisers are comfortable with. Considering CNN gets played in lots of public places, I imagine that limits how much CNN would like to copy other basic cable channels that have recently opened the floodgates on language.
aspiegamer
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Yanked from FCC website:
This applies to all broadcast media!
Worth a mention that in CNN's original programming they don't censor s-words at all. There's a bit of an "educational purposes/documentary/news" exception. Usually media go out of their way to be overcautious on it. Better safe than sorry.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq
Also also, the infraction depends on what maturity rating your show is run at! Any "normal" cable is typically TV-PG or TV-14 (like a Daily Show, etc). You can get away with more under TV-MA (like a South Park, etc). This is where more of the "it's on cable" is in play because they're often conservative in their ratings to bring in more advertisers and claim wider demographics for their shows.
I was thinking about making an "it's past 10" joke, but apparently that's not a joke haha
Black Mamba
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you sure you want to do that? Seattle seems like a very pro-trump town, man.
(I'm gonna be in seattle in 2 weeks!)
Ether_Snake
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Trump will definitely get a big in-booth bounce, and you could argue that the % of people who will decide to vote for Trump in the booth itself is going to get bigger the lower he goes in the polls (but low poll numbers can also discourage his own supporters and the opposition's). People will throw a protest vote his way, even more if they think they won't win, just like with Brexit.
We are still far away, but there is probably a bottom close to where he is now for Trump's numbers. He has a chance to do serious damage to Hillary in a debate, if he keeps relating everything to trade and Hillary being a warhawk. The thing is Trump has shown no ability in defending his own policies as well as some of his spokespersons. Someone could really run with the idea of putting tariffs on China, say Europe does it, say the WTO sucks, etc. It'd be easy to score points on that. But Trump is so incredibly bad at this.
I think it's very likely that Pence will do that kind of damage against Kaine in their debate if there is one. Hillary's camp will have to push Kaine as the pro-workers and pro-social-safety-net guy to counter that.
We are still far away, but there is probably a bottom close to where he is now for Trump's numbers. He has a chance to do serious damage to Hillary in a debate, if he keeps relating everything to trade and Hillary being a warhawk. The thing is Trump has shown no ability in defending his own policies as well as some of his spokespersons. Someone could really run with the idea of putting tariffs on China, say Europe does it, say the WTO sucks, etc. It'd be easy to score points on that. But Trump is so incredibly bad at this.
I think it's very likely that Pence will do that kind of damage against Kaine in their debate if there is one. Hillary's camp will have to push Kaine as the pro-workers and pro-social-safety-net guy to counter that.
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This is great.
People thought that in the primaries too, but he didn't outperform his polling enough to prove the point.
Ether_Snake
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BTW, how stupid of Trump to not use Pence more. He should have him talk a lot more, but clearly Trump is an egomaniac. I never thought he would run that bad of a campaign. It feels like he is trying to crash it.
He was doing well in the polls, so that's the opposite of what I'm talking about.
He was doing well in the polls, so that's the opposite of what I'm talking about.
You subscribe to the Bradley effect (shy Trump effect). So does Trump.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-polls-bias-224903
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