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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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I'll post here more often. I've been busy getting yelled at and touched at work 6 days a week
We never forget.
Outdoor Miner
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lol, just watch it
I'd love for tha crüe to all come back
More_Badass
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Was thinking, Trump's four months so far have laid bare many many legitimate issues and aspects that are basically gentleman agreements involving the presidency and the nature of checks and balances. Stuff that would need serious discussion, an examination, changes.
But that kind of introspection and discussion would never happen. Anything proposed by a democrat President and party would be shot down, spun, vehemently opposed. Any discussion and constructive criticism would be dismissed as one side versus the other, left vs right.
I don't see any changes happening, and that's scary, because another wannabe fascist dictator knows exactly what not to do after watching Trump and co hurt themselves repeatedly
But that kind of introspection and discussion would never happen. Anything proposed by a democrat President and party would be shot down, spun, vehemently opposed. Any discussion and constructive criticism would be dismissed as one side versus the other, left vs right.
I don't see any changes happening, and that's scary, because another wannabe fascist dictator knows exactly what not to do after watching Trump and co hurt themselves repeatedly
Currently watching Kasich and Sanders talk. Really entertaining.
Lol at Kasich not saying Trump is a liar but saying 'the things he says doesn't always resemble the facts'
GutsOfThor
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Is anyone else worried that if trump goes then a big motivator for Dems to get out to vote next year goes away as well?
YOU DON'T SAY
metalslimer
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As much as I think Kasich is a hard right phony in moderates clothing, he has never wavered from his criticism which buys him some respect from me
Didn't stop congress with Bill Clinton
Emerson
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Not a great argument if what you want is conviction. Last I recall, Clinton finished 2 terms.
You pretty much get one shot at impeaching this guy, if that. Blowing it early is a mistake.
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Mercury Fred
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He's garbage. Nothing new here. Although I do wonder if he's compromised somehow as well.
I agree with the other people saying we need to wait until were sure we can win the vote for impeachment before it happens.
If you impeach him and it's voted down, dems lose a lot of credibility
Aaron Strife
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Or Timedog?
metalslimer
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If an impeachment started now we wouldn't have the votes. If Comey drops the bomb, he can be tried on obstruction. I mean it could be a sideshow if democrats want something to tie the administration up with.
IggyChooChoo
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The public never wanted Clinton to be impeached. Right now there's more public support for Trump's impeachment than against, which is new territory for America post-Nixon. Forcing 34 Senators to block it might be useful politically. Just impeaching him even without removing him might make him even crazier. Plus, there's no double jeopardy for impeachment, right? No reason we can't do it twice if that's what voters want.
Nazgul_Hunter
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John Kasich sounding like Trumps already gone at times. Definitely Setting up for 2020. He's the only unsullied.
So achieving failure along party lines and galvanizing republicans should be our goal?
Democrats are the majority, majority support is not surprising. What do the numbers in individual red states say? Those are the only ones that matter.
balladofwindfishes
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Bernie has nothing to lose by pushing for impeachment. It's what Democrats want.
Um...ok, I'll bite. What do you do exactly?
RustyNails
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Bernie/Kasich 2016.
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VendettaRed07
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Jesus I just went to watch baseball. What the fuck happened in the last two hours? I thought it was safe to walk away after 9
I don't think a liberal, socialist independent is gonna take a very conservative Republican as his VP somehow.
Basileus777
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They can't force anything, the Republicans control Congress and are not and probably will never be interested.
I think Angus King actually said the word impeachment today.
heh, considering it backfired on them, maybe it should've.
IggyChooChoo
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Presumably we're talking about a hypothetical Dem retaking of the House, so 2019, 2020 timeframe. I'm just saying impeachment might be useful even if we know we won't get removal in the Senate.
You all making a big deal over Sanders' comment need to chill. The tweet talking about falling over each other is overstating it -- you should actually watch it. Sanders spent considerable time describing, to the protest of Kasich, how Trump is demonstrating authoritarian tendencies. But you have to remember, Sanders' is framing himself as a uniter -- he's appealing to the more reasonable conservatives that are uncomfortable with Trump, but would perceive impeachment talk before the investigation demonstrates proof of collusion to be partisan attacks from the left. Let Sanders play his role, leave the attack dog role to others. Both are useful.
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I think he actually specifically tried to avoid saying the word while lamenting the fact that we've come to this. And he's (essentially) a Democrat.
The point is that Senators much more than Representatives cling to their rapidly thinning veneer of bipartisanship. The world is moving much faster than they are, and they remain extremely hesitant to say anything too flagrant too early.
RustyNails
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Meltdown
Bam Bam Baklava
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The creator of that tweet is highly unlikely to have such a source.
He's a Dem party operative.
He's a Dem party operative.
Two scoop meltdown
I'm back and forth the impeachment talk.
On one hand, jesus christ it would be so relieving to get this buffoon out of the Oval Office asap. On the other, it's only 5 months and Trump is already near record-low approval ratings. Letting him constantly fail for the next 4 years would make 2020 a lot easier to win compared to running against Pence or Ryan.
On one hand, jesus christ it would be so relieving to get this buffoon out of the Oval Office asap. On the other, it's only 5 months and Trump is already near record-low approval ratings. Letting him constantly fail for the next 4 years would make 2020 a lot easier to win compared to running against Pence or Ryan.
metalslimer
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He's doing possibly irreparable damage to the country with our allies. We can't wait even if it would help politically
It's a hard choice
Do we let him put our national security at justice for the next four years?
Or do we impeach him and put someone more capable in power who will be more competent but will pass regressive legislation?
Suikoguy
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Well, if we ever want Republicans to not Impeach Trump, we could just have Obama say we need to Impeach him.
It's really difficult to say what on earth Pence could actually get done, especially when Moderate republicans will start freaking the fuck out after the impeachment.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Is this the meltdown Tucker Carlson was talking about?
Bonen no Max'd
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Quist, as a cowboy, has never actually used a computer before and is getting confused.
As PoliGAF's mountain west hellscape correspondent that is my completely factual analysis.
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