Because it's a stupid shot at me over a normal local race when the Sunbelt talk is about the future of the EC and gaining back the house.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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BlastProcessing
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The WaPo checking in a little late, but they somehow got a transcript of Trump's call with Duerte: Trump calls Kim Jong Un a madman with nuclear weapons, according to transcript of Duterte call
Wapo said:
Wapo said:
whyamihere
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You just compared Hillary Clinton 16-esque Demographics as Destiny to Global Warming, let's chill on calling something stupid.
AntraxSuicide
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I wish people cared enough about helping win races in my own state to take petty shots at people but oh well
whyamihere
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I care about winning races anywhere including the sunbelt and New Hampshire but okay!
As someone pointed out on Twitter, it looks an awful lot like the "and will never forget" was added after someone had already written out their nicely centered paragraph (like a certain president likes to do) and someone suggested they might want to say something a little less self centered.
Bonen no Max'd
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how does one lose a rave
whyamihere
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By going sober.
I believe this is the first time ever Wolfeboro is going to be represented by a Democrat, at least since a long time.
Two more specials tonight in New York too.
No, I compared economic changes that have been occurring due to technological advancement, globalization ,and free trade for the past 40 years to Global Warming.
You really don't see the difference?
TestOfTide
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By finding out what 2CB is.
And what's going to happen to those demographics when the Fox News machine responsible for feeding them their bullshit goes down (as we are starting to see in key ratings)?
Bad molly
ShadowSwordmaster
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Great to hear.
whyamihere
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Okay I'll finally say what I deleted multiple times.
This is such a stupid post I actually can't believe you're serious in comparing political "destiny" to climate change. Nothing is constant in politics! How have you failed to grasp this over the past two years?
Honestly, I'm still laughing that you think mapping political outcomes three years from now is the same thing as HISTORICAL SCIENTIFIC DATA OF CLIMATE CHANGE. Politics isn't a science! Don't treat it like one!
Aaron Strife
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A couple NY special elections tonight too. Polls close in 12 minutes.
AntraxSuicide
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To be completely honest, I don't believe that anyone here would ever think about a race in Mississippi more than one in a swing state. I simply do not believe you.
Bonen no Max'd
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if I'm looking up the right special elections, there's one for the senate and one for the assembly right? too bad the pickup chance is in the assembly, not the senate.
also on the subject of the New York state senate, can anyone explain to me why the New York Democrats don't just deny ballot access to the IDC in elections after what they pulled?
also on the subject of the New York state senate, can anyone explain to me why the New York Democrats don't just deny ballot access to the IDC in elections after what they pulled?
whyamihere
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ECONOMICS IS A SCIENCE! These changes are in large part a result of radical economic change because of mass technological progress over the past decades! We keep seeing the same thing happen everywhere. This isn't an accident. West Virginia, East Iowa, Upstate NY.
It's not destiny! There is not "permanent GOP/Dem majority" nationwide possible! The pendulum will always be swinging. The gameboard will always be changing. This is one of the lessons of 2010, also a lesson about the firewall getting breached.
But to win the game, you need to see where things are evolving to. Not where they've been. Change is constant, but it only goes one way.
okay well are there any legislature races in MS on the horizon? I can't think of any. We have a SoS race here in October. I would assume the D will run ahead of Hillary if trends continue.
TestOfTide
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Depends actually if there is a possibility of maximizing the "southern blue line" into outvoting the rest of the state.
I mean we almost won tennessee's senate seat back in 2006.
Here's somethin!
No fucking way Lieberman makes it through Senate approval.
whyamihere
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Literally none of this addresses my point besides "economics is a science" which is not true, so, okay.
Again, we should be blessed none of you actually work in politics or campaigns.
I include myself because I'm also stupid.
AntraxSuicide
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"anyone" was a bit vague as we've specifically talked about this. But in general when people here usually talk about running in every race or something similar, I doubt heavily that they actually mean that. And that's fair! But I don't see any point in taking shots at people over something that they ultimately agree on, if not where they draw the line on which races they get passionate about.
What is your point? I'm not predicting outcomes. I'm looking at where we're likely to have the best odds of winning elections and actually gaining power and being able to implement our agenda! Regardless of who the nominee is!
Aaron Strife
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I honestly think the NY Dem establishment prefers the current situation. Cuomo can get what he wants, and if they don't want to do something that's too progressive they have an easy scapegoat.
NYDP is pretty corrupt I'm afraid, exactly why we need nonpartisan redistricting. Politicians that can draw their own maps are only interested in protecting themselves.
whyamihere
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I don't think trying to win everywhere you can is a radical idea but idk. A lot of people today felt comfortable making declarations about strategy three years from now. That's silly.
You made declarations about 2020 and where to spend money when it's MAY OF TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD and for all your preaching about the "science" (Jesus Christ) of economics, you, me, my mother, and Kellyanne Conway have literally no idea about what the environment will look like, so writing off any potential swing state, like you so gleefully seem to want to do? is very silly! I want to win races! I don't want to give up on places because I'm 2017 it seemed like a good idea.
BlastProcessing
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This really is insane:
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
GOP Senate? Oh yes he will.
Mississippi is so racially polarizing. Then again so is the rest of the states surrounding. The only way your winning in our area is if the white population disappeared over night leaving just blacks left or realistically a coalition of blacks + a plurality of white. A lof of the whites millennials who would eventually make up a future coalition to make us blue (provided blacks continue voting D 90%) leave the states for liberal pastures or vote R like their parents and grandparents. Who knows if Gen Z will do the same.
The opposite is happening in Virginia and now Georgia where there are jobs that liberal whites in the north want to come down and work/live making those states purple.
BlastProcessing
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I really don't think even the GOP Senate will be cool with a former elected official being FBI Director.
Bonen no Max'd
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I'd be interested to see if the Working Families Party tries to run anyone against the IDC members like they did in Connecticut when they thought the Democrat running was shitty so they had Gomes run (and win) instead.
whyamihere
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They'll just be a better effort to primary them. Which is the best idea IMO.
If things trend like they did the last few times a GOP pres tanked his numbers into the 6th Circle of Hell, we're likely going to be able to run candidates all over the place, even in places that are normally inhospitable for Democratic life! Because that's how the game works - our electorate is reactionary as f.
OMG look at the first tweet they chose for this article
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/hes...t-calls-islam-one-of-worlds-great-faiths/amp/
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/hes...t-calls-islam-one-of-worlds-great-faiths/amp/
whyamihere
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This really is insane:
Those digs at Obama at every single opportunity.
Not so sure about that - even a lot of GOPs don't like Lieberman, not to mention many of them want someone who's been in actual law enforcement, not just some prosecutor.
He's also been an elected official.
Then the fact that he works for a firm that represents Trump would be the 4th strike.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Someone needs to make a thread about this.
BoogieWoogie
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We have a Secretary of State who's an oil baron with no political experience that received a medal for being best friends with Russia.
They'll continue bowing to Trump.
Dubbedinenglish
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OMG *Airhorn*
Aaron Strife
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whyamihere
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Omg they have Pence doing robocalls in Montana instead of Trump.
Aaron Strife
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They sent out the "Trump has already been impeached May 23 2017" robocalls by mistake.
RustyNails
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Where are all these special elections coming from. Are they Congressional or state level?
BoogieWoogie
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Oooooo its getting to them.
ShadowSwordmaster
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State Level.
Bonen no Max'd
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state level. The only federal elections are KS-4 (done), CA-34 (can't remember if the second round happened or not), GA-6, MT-AL, and SC-5 and the Alabama senate seat.
RustyNails
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Ah gotcha. Good stuff though. Democratic state legislatures is an absolute must by 2020.
AntraxSuicide
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Again, define "everywhere you can." I do not think most people here would care about a race here, certainly not as much as other races. So again I don't see any reason to get worked up about someone "giving up" on certain places when most, including you I'd guess, would probably just shrug over a lost race in a lot of places.
And as a mathematician, I cringe hard at science gatekeeping. I could shit on any field except philosophy if I wanted to look like an asshole but it's not really a cool thing to do.
The key to those two states are strong metro areas (DC and Atlanta respectively) that we don't have in MS. Maybe if you really got into North MS in Hernando and Itawamba counties as they're both insanely close to Memphis and Birmingham respectively? You'd need more future-proof industries in state to go with that. Young flight is severe.
Edit:and what we talked about before about which offices to shoot for and jump from. I think AG is great for us in the South. All Jim Hood has on his record is that he jails pedophiles and scam artists. That's not always possible in a legislative office.
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