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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house

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"not bad at this time" LMAO
 

Zolo

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It took me embarrassingly long to figure out what he was trying to say largely because any approval rating below 45% at this point in a Presidency being "not bad" feels like calling the earth flat.

Having more than half the country not approve of me isn't bad!!!
 
I dont know whats more pathetic

-The grammar
-Bragging about a 40% approval rating
-Talking shit about the poll that you were just bragging about
-Constantly tweeting and not working
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Great--now I'm going to have students using this same line when they fail a test. "Hey--almost 40% isn't bad at this time!"
 

GusBus

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I dont know whats more pathetic

-The grammar
-Bragging about a 40% approval rating
-Talking shit about the poll that you were just bragging about
-Constantly tweeting and not working

Equally embarrassing. This president is the nadir of our democracy since the Civil War.
 
I'd assume counties he won by a greater percentage than Romney. Think North Florida where there was literally unprecedented white rural turnout.
Yep. According to the WSJ it's counties where he did at least 20 points better than Romney. More from NBC:
In the Trump "surge counties" (for example: Carbon, Pa., where Trump won 65 percent to 31 percent, versus Romney's 53-45 percent margin) — 56 percent of residents approve of the president's job performance.

Trump beat Hillary Clinton in these "surge" areas nationwide by a combined 65 percent-to-29 percent margin in 2016.

But in the "flip counties" (for example: Luzerne, Pa., where Obama won 52 percent to 47 percent, compared to Trump's 58-39 margin), Trump's job rating stands at just 44 percent.

Trump won these "flip" areas overall in 2016, 51 percent to 43 percent.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...ds-50-percent-counties-fueled-his-win-n783151
 
So he's underwater in ancestral D counties he flipped and doing fine but not amazing in ancestral R counties that Romney won.

That's... not good?

Yeah, 50-46 in counties he won is a really terrible place for him to be considering his whole thing was having crazy good margins in rural areas, which STILL only just barely pushed him over the finish line. Even slightly higher urban turnout with those numbers basically sinks him.
 
Good news for 2018?
We just have to hope they vote this way. If they do states like Iowa and Ohio are back on the board.

Biggest question is are the Obama voters who went Trump permanent GOP converts or is that just linked to how they feel about Trump on any given day. Hopefully the latter.
 

jtb

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Seems like those surge numbers are surprisingly tepid, too? I don't know what their definition of a "surge" county is though.
 
There's a bizarre lack of blame shifted towards Obama as well

He'd rather talk about someone who is not president and is only married to someone who was president 25 years ago, than talk about Obama.

I guess he figures ranting about Obama isn't really worthwhile since he's so popular?

Yeah scandals don't really stick to Obama at all. People even forgave him quickly for the metadata collection program. And certainly left-wing defectors are less trustful of Clinton.
 
Seems like those surge numbers are surprisingly tepid, too? I don't know what their definition of a "surge" county is though.
Counties where he beat Romney's spread by 20 points.

Yeah scandals don't really stick to Obama at all. People even forgave him quickly for the metadata collection program. And certainly left-wing defectors are less trustful of Clinton.
That's what enraged me about the left's attitude last election. Most of the critiques lobbied at Hillary applied equally to Obama, but people were willing to let those slide because he looks cool in meme pictures or whatever.

I saw plenty of people on my FB feed and the like rant about how they're writing in Bernie or voting for Stein one day, and then putting up "PROUD OF MY PRESIDENT" memes the next. Like you fucking morons, if you had any pride at all in Obama you should have held your nose and voted Clinton.
 

sphagnum

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Counties where he beat Romney's spread by 20 points.


That's what enraged me about the left's attitude last election. Most of the critiques lobbied at Hillary applied equally to Obama, but people were willing to let those slide because he looks cool in meme pictures or whatever.

I saw plenty of people on my FB feed and the like rant about how they're writing in Bernie or voting for Stein one day, and then putting up "PROUD OF MY PRESIDENT" memes the next. Like you fucking morons, if you had any pride at all in Obama you should have held your nose and voted Clinton.

That's the power of charisma. Socialists have always been pretty consistent in their lack of love for the Obama administration at least. Bernie ventured into that territory once or twice but since it didn't play well with voters (and didn't help with his minority issues, certainly) he backed off.
 
Those numbers give a little more credence to Nate Silver's hypothesis that the map will return to 2012-ish status without Trump and Hillary on the ticket. If we can pull 2012 results but make gains in the Sun Belt, we'll be in good shape. Having a built-in advantage with an unpopular Republican president during a midterm won't hurt, either.

The Romney Five could also breathe a bit easier in that case.
 
The reporter tweet made it sound like they will be able to publish the info Friday itself.

No he didn't. He said he was still reporting and that he would identify the 8th person "shortly". If you want journalism to be good and to not devolve into internet clickbait, stop demanding that you get everything now, now, now. It's unhealthy for our democracy.

Deep breaths, friend.
 

Team Trump has an established history of targeting attacks on people who can't respond.

Shouldn't that mean the Secret Service probably has a list of names of people that entered the building and Trump's offices that day too? Possibly also a list of people who's reason for being there was that meeting?

The Secret Service can't really do that. Their primary job is to protect. If they monitored meetings, then people would have reason to hide meetings from them, which would make it harder to protect them.
 

Stinkles

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This lawyer looks a lot more shook than usual, he's gotta understand that he's defending traitors at this point.

"Treason is not necessarily a crime also that was don jr not the president. The president doesn't have anything to do with his campaign or this don jr guy and even if he did (which he didn't) it would still be ok. But he definitely didn't even though it would have been ok if he had."
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday that she remains opposed to taking up the Senate Republican health care bill because it would hurt some of the people who need care the most.

God bless this woman. Just need one more. Still wondering where it comes from. Hopefully the CBO takes care of it for everyone.
 
Anyone here ever listen to talk radio for laughs?

I was reminded abour this dumb talking point around 9/11 where they would suggest lining pig skin in the airplane seats and cabin so if a terrorist hijacks a plane they won't go to their virgins ~_~

Reminded of this because there is apparently guys who put pig meat in the shells of their bullets to achieve the same thing.

Talk radio is a zoo.
 

Kevinroc

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I know this shouldn't be news to anywhere here, but Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price says Insurers should "Dust Off How They Did Business Before Obamacare"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tom-price-insurers-obamacare_us_596b76fae4b01741862825c6

During an appearance on ABC’s “This Week,” Price was asked to respond to a blistering criticism of the Senate Republicans’ health care proposal by two major groups representing the U.S. health insurance industry. In a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) earlier this week, the groups called the latest version of the bill “simply unworkable in any form” and warned that it would cause “widespread terminations of coverage” to people with serious medical problems.

“It’s really perplexing, especially from the insurance companies, because all they have to do is dust off how they did business before Obamacare,” Price said, referring to an amendment proposed by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) that would allow insurers to resume sales of policies that leave out key benefits, such as prescription drugs or mental health treatment.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I know this shouldn't be news to anywhere here, but Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price says Insurers should "Dust Off How They Did Business Before Obamacare"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tom-price-insurers-obamacare_us_596b76fae4b01741862825c6

What a moron. The health care system was already a mess before the ACA.

That's the biggest thing I hear from right-wingers on this: "Well, let's just go back to what it was beforehand." It's the worst idea I've heard about the whole thing.
 
What a moron. The health care system was already a mess before the ACA.

That's the biggest thing I hear from right-wingers on this: "Well, let's just go back to what it was beforehand." It's the worst idea I've heard about the whole thing.
Not only that but they literally CAN'T.
 
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