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[Futurevoid]

Conversation seems animated, too.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

HFC isn't going to be the reason Obamacare repeal dies.

A skinny repeal includes funding for abortions, so yea, there's a pretty good chance they kill the bill

 

[tbm24]

HFC isn't going to be the reason Obamacare repeal dies.

Of course not, but they are part of the reasons McConnells plan with this MTP will lead to nowhere. At best McConnell wants the bill out of the senate.

 

[BronsonLee]

Conversation seems animated, too.

'The price just went up to 750k'

 

[Owzers]

Conversation seems animated, too.

Tell me you still love me Mitch.

You know I do.

I vote yes.

 

[PBY]

A skinny repeal includes funding for abortions, so yea, there's a pretty good chance they kill the bill

This is a very optimistic view.

 

[RumbleHumble]

A skinny repeal includes funding for abortions, so yea, there's a pretty good chance they kill the bill

That's if a skinny repeal even makes it past the Senate

 

[sangreal]

What's to ask, skinny repeal is a nonstarter for the house as it is. Unless the freedom caucus suddenly reveals they've been bullshitting the whole time.

I have news for you: the freedom caucus has been bullshitting the whole time

Regardless, again skinny repeal would not be voted on in the house. The idea is to send it to conference and appoint new committees to work out a bill in secret. The only thing they can't do is add new material

 

[balladofwindfishes]

This is a very optimistic view.

You think Ted Cruz votes for funding for abortion?

 

[JettDash]

Don't fool yourself into thinking those are roadblocks. Once it passes in the senate it's over.

Nah, if it is this skinny repeal crap, they have to go conference with House and negotiate a bill, then each chamber has to pass it.

 

[Abinash117]

I think we know where everyone stands on full repeal and the BCRA. People need to start asking where people stand on skinny repeal

Neither the BCRA and full repeal isn't likely to pass. Don't know about the skinny repeal, but Senators are going to want it changed. I don't even know their real plan, but I guess it is to vote on the full repeal and BCRA which they expect to fail, and then to skinny repeal. That plan doesn't look sound.

 

[whyamihere]

Remember all those posts about how Topher Spiro and Indivisible and co. were crying wolf?

I don't think that it was that they were crying wolf, just that they were sounding the alarm so often about even mundane things (especially Topher) that it was hard to actually know when it mattered and when it didn't.

 

[jtb]

Nah, if it is this skinny repeal crap, they have to go conference with House and negotiate a bill, then each chamber has to pass it.

That's not a roadblock.

I don't think that it was that they were crying wolf, just that they were sounding the alarm so often about even mundane things (especially Topher) that it was hard to actually know when it mattered and when it didn't.

True, but at the end of the day, with a GOP controlled government, the panic level must always be at eleven.

 

[Emerson]

Remember all those posts about how Topher Spiro and Indivisible and co. were crying wolf?

Their record (assuming this passes, which it hasn't) is literally 2-2. They were terrified about the first House bill, which failed, the second, which passed, the first Senate attempt, which failed, and this.

It's not that they're incapable of being right, it's that when you are literally five alarms panic, all hands on deck at all times for 3 months, people stop taking you seriously. Especially when there have been several very public failures by the Republican leadership showing they are not the master players people portray them to be.

I don't see how the MTP likely passing is a death sentence for us here. That writing has been on the wall for days. But there's still no more evidence than ever that they actually have the votes to pass the bill.

 

[tbm24]

I have news for you: the freedom caucus has been bullshitting the whole time

Regardless, again skinny repeal would not be voted on in the house. The idea is to send it to conference and appoint new committees to work out a bill in secret

That's just starts this circus all over again. Nothing is going to make it to Trumps desk at this rate.

 

[Futurevoid]

McCain just showed up it seems.

 

[BronsonLee]

This vote always looked to me as more of a 'we need to keep this going' kinda thing

 

[Doc Holliday]

Wow, McCain you giant piece of shite. Can't believe I felt bad for your dumbass a days ago.

Sigh, it's a go.

Next time vote in the mid terms nimrods.

 

[thefro]

McCain walks in...

 

[bgbball31]

And there is it. Now we wait for Pence and it's moving on.

 

[whyamihere]

True, but at the end of the day, with a GOP controlled government, the panic level must always be at eleven.

No one can survive with the panic level always at 11.

 

[Officerrob]

As expected, they get 50

 

[Zolo]

McCain just showed up it seems.

Were they waiting on him to let him have the final vote as a celebration type thing?

 

[JettDash]

That's not a roadblock.

Of course it is. They have to figure out a bill that will pass both chambers. If that were easy McConnell would have done it already instead of trying this desperate crap.

 

[Blader]

State spox Nauert says of Tillerson: He's taking a little time off.

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/889919425591349248

Tillerson is on vacation.

A vacation? He hasn't done anything!

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Yay, unity!

 

[Owzers]

As expected, they get 50

On the plus side, this is what I assumed would happen for the actual bill, we get to relive this again in a few days.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So was Johnson just messing around to stall so McCain could arrive?

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Hey look, MTP passes.

 

[Zolo]

So was Johnson just messing around to stall so McCain could arrive?

Yeah. Just waiting for the celebration.

 

[Barzul]

Fuck John McCain seriously. Fuck him.

 

[jtb]

No one can survive with the panic level always at 11.

Well, we don't really have a choice at this point. These are desperate times, unfortunately.

 

[Pyrokai]

Today I lost years off my life.

Edit: Even if the MTP didn't pass, lol.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Hey look, MTP passes.

Grats!

 

[Loudninja]

No one honesty thought McCain would change.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Do they now have to keep Senate in session while ammendments are voted on?

 

[Officerrob]

McCain was not coming back for the sole purpose of voting for the MTP to have it fail, the writing was on the wall

 

[whyamihere]

Well, we don't really have a choice at this point. These are desperate times, unfortunately.

And again, no one can survive with the panic level always at 11.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Well, we don't really have a choice at this point. These are desperate times, unfortunately.

People do have a choice. Too much stress and they just tune out.

McCain was not coming back for the sole purpose of voting for the MTP to have it fail, the writing was on the wall

Without McCain the MTP vote had 0 chance at all and they couldn't move on. It was either bring McCain back or the bill is dead. McCain being back has little to do with "writing on the wall" and more "they literally had to do this or it was dead"

 

[PBY]

And again, no one can survive with the panic level always at 11.

Okay, then thousands lose healthcare?

Its just the reality of having an R controlled congress.

 

[jtb]

Of course it is. They have to figure out a bill that will pass both chambers. If that were easy McConnell would have done it already instead of trying this desperate crap.

At this point, the House have already voted for the Obamacare repeal.

They'll face the electoral consequences regardless of whether it goes through conference. Might as well get kick 20 million people off health insurance while you can.

And again, no one can survive with the panic level always at 11.

People do have a choice. Too much stress and they just tune out.

(I'm agreeing with you! This is why the GOP wins.)

 

[Blader]

Unbelievable that McCain could vote yes here after saying just literally days ago that it was time to go back to a normal bipartisan process on healthcare.

I mean, I believe it. But sometimes the hypocrisy smacks you in the face so quick and hard that it's still a little surprising.

 

[JP_]

So, is the skinny repeal expected to pass?

 

[TumblingHippo]

Dems applauding McCain is bad

 

[whyamihere]

Okay, then thousands lose healthcare?

Its just the reality of having an R controlled congress.

I dunno dude!

 

[Plinko]

Amazing. If they pass a bill, blue wave incoming in 2018.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So, is the skinny repeal expected to pass?

It's really hard to tell what people like Collins and Murkowski, or even people on the other end of the spectrum will do.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Dems applauding McCain is bad

What. Why. Someone succesfully recovered from brain cancer surgery.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Fuck you CNN for talking about political deefats and victories vs how this shit will actually affect people.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Look at John McCain going all mavericky.