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[RumbleHumble]

He keeps going back to loyalty. Nothing about rule of law, ethics, what is or is not proper. These things literally do not enter his mind. He's completely oblivious to how it plays out for the rest of us who do care about and know these things.

The craziest thing is that Sessions is among the most loyal of his acolytes. Trump's just an old dog with a bone at this point.

 

[Officerrob]

Looks like the full repeal bill is up on the floor right now. The amendment is being read right now.

Rand Paul gets his moment

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Seems likely that McConnell can wrangle some POS bill built out of amendments with the promise of fixing it in committee at this point.

Which is ridiculous

They're going to run out of "well, this next group will fix it, just vote!" eventually lol

 

[BoogieWoogie]

Looks like the full repeal bill is up on the floor right now. The amendment is being read right now.

They're just going to start voting immediately?

 

[BobTheFork]

I was worried McCain was going to make a hypocritical speech before he voted for this cryptic nonsense...

Fuck's sake John.

 

[Futurevoid]

They're just going to start voting immediately?

In so far as the main repeal bill from 2015 and the BCRA? Yep. They expect both to fail.

 

[Officerrob]

They're just going to start voting immediately?

On bills they know will fail, yes. They are getting them out of the way

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They're just going to start voting immediately?

That was the plan. Let the two "big" bills fail in a vote, then move to amendments to craft a new bill.

 

[Plinko]

New interview with Trump shitting on Sessions, says that Sessions was only there because he was a fair weather fan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-wont-say-if-he-will-fire-attorney-general-sessions-1501010025

All signs point to firing. My original prediction was beginning of September, but I'm now thinking that may be too late.

 

[Hopfrog]

There will but it won't matter.

Agreed. All that matters now are the votes. And personally speaking, I am in the "fuck McCain" camp. Actions matter, and his legacy (if a bill passes) is forever tainted by what may be his final acts as a politician. Screw the lifetime of "maverick" posing.

 

[Loxley]

I know it was expected, but I'm still proud that not a single Democrat voted for the MTP (or any of this garbage). If nothing else, it does show that Dems have some modicum of unity.

 

[jtb]

That's not what bedwetting means.

Terrible, awful hot take incoming:

How can you be outraged about applauding McCain while simultaneously saying that Dem activists shouldn't be spending all their time and effort stopping the repeal effort? Shouldn't we focus on what little we can control?

Like, one of these things seeems worth fighting for, and it's not booing a relatively popular politician with a national figure (as sick as I am of the McCain fetishizing as anyone)

(I warned you it was a Bad Take!)

 

[whyamihere]

I know it was expected, but I'm still proud that not a single Democrat voted for the MTP (or any of this garbage). If nothing else, it does show that Dems have some modicum of unity.

Yup.

 

[Shao Kahn on the Lawn]

You know what's even more satisfying than booing McCain? Winning.

There aren't any elections today so I'd settle for seeing a goddamned hypocrite shunned on national television.

Booing and/or giving the cold shoulder to a man recovering from life saving brain surgery?! The fuck is wrong with some of you?

There are people going through the same ordeal right now that he's working to strip coverage from. What the fuck is wrong with us? Nah, what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Siegcram]

Booing and/or giving the cold shoulder to a man recovering from life saving brain surgery?! The fuck is wrong with some of you?

Does this suddenly absolve him from being a decent human being?

Having cancer isn't carte blanche to fuck with peoples lives.

 

[PBY]

Agreed. All that matters now are the votes. And personally speaking, I am in the "fuck McCain" camp. Actions matter, and his legacy (if a bill passes) is forever tainted by what may be his final acts as a politician. Screw the lifetime of "maverick" posing.

Agreed, but his entire life as a politician has also been supremely shitty.

 

[Holmes]

Omg @ Collins calling that Republican who would challenge her to a duel fat and ugly. What a slay

 

[tedrotheredro]

New interview with Trump shitting on Sessions, says that Sessions was only there because he was a fair weather fan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-wont-say-if-he-will-fire-attorney-general-sessions-1501010025

I've got to think firing the southern darling around the same time as installing a New Yorker as communications director isn't going to play in certain Trump areas. Dare I say it might eat away a bit from the evangelical approval.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

That was the plan. Let the two "big" bills fail in a vote, then move to amendments to craft a new bill.

So essentially them moving forward could still result in nothing actually happening? How long does this "moving forward" period last, until next year?

 

[Loudninja]

All signs point to firing. My original prediction was beginning of September, but I'm now thinking that may be too late.

He is getting more and more desperate.

 

[whyamihere]

Terrible, awful hot take incoming:

How can you be outraged about applauding McCain while simultaneously saying that Dem activists shouldn't be spending all their time and effort stopping the repeal effort? Shouldn't we focus on what little we can control?

Like, one of these things seeems worth fighting for, and it's not booing a relatively popular politician with a national figure (as sick as I am of the McCain fetishizing as anyone)

(I warned you it was a Bad Take!)

That's... not what I was saying.

That is a horrible take.

I said people were tired about how often Topher was saying that EVERYTHING IS BAD and confused/tired people to the point where they became less effective for activists. These are different things and might have ended up hurting their cause.

 

[PBY]

I've got to think firing the southern darling around the same time as installing a New Yorker as communications director isn't going to play in certain Trump areas. Dare I say it might eat away a bit from the evangelical approval.

It won't.

 

[Officerrob]

I've got to think firing the southern darling around the same time as installing a New Yorker as communications director isn't going to play in certain Trump areas. Dare I say it might eat away a bit from the evangelical approval.

They won't even notice

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So essentially them moving forward could still result in nothing actually happening? How long does this "moving forward" period last, until next year?

Who even knows. McConnell could keep it open until they get bored and want to do something else, "pass" an empty nothing bill, and let it become Paul Ryan's problem in the bi-chamber committee.

 

[Widdle Puppy]

Fuck. Knew this would go through.

Mccain is a fucking idiot and Rand Paul finally sold out on his so called purist ideology.

 

[DrForester]

If every senator held a grudge against everyone who ever disagreed with them once, no senator would ever talk to another.

Some of you guys should listen to McCain's speech.

Fuck McCain's speech. It's his actions that matter, and hes voting to proceed to strip health care from millions. The man deserves no respect, and absolutely no sympathy. Millions are going to be fucked over today because of him and 50 other GOP senators.

Fuck him.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Fuck McCain's speech. It's his actions that matter, and hes voting to proceed to strip health care from millions. The man deserves no respect, and absolutely no sympathy. Millions are going to be fucked over today because of him and 50 other GOP senators.

Fuck him.

Do as he says, not as he does.

 

[PBY]

Robert Costa‏
Verified account
@costareports
Sen. McCain's speech was a lion's roar.
3:27 PM - 25 Jul 2017


I fucking hate this country so much some times. McCain just cucked a good portion of our national media.

 

[Kusagari]

I've got to think firing the southern darling around the same time as installing a New Yorker as communications director isn't going to play in certain Trump areas. Dare I say it might eat away a bit from the evangelical approval.

lmfao.

Trump could fuck their wives in front of them and these Evangelicals wouldn't stop supporting him.

 

[Futurevoid]

Fuck. Knew this would go through.

Mccain is a fucking idiot and Rand Paul finally sold out on his so called purist ideology.

He's done no such thing. He plans to vote yes on the current repeal only amendment which is exactly what he wants. To completely repeal the ACA. He is what he is but at least he's consistent.

 

[whyamihere]

If every senator held a grudge against everyone who ever disagreed with them once, no senator would ever talk to another.

Some of you guys should listen to McCain's speech.

John McCain wants the chamber to return to regular order AFTER he votes to proceed on bills NO ONE HAS SEEN.

He is a spineless, horrible person.

 

[Autodidact]

Omg @ Collins calling that Republican who would challenge her to a duel fat and ugly. What a slay

I just saw the article about the hot mic.

SLAAAAY Moderate Queen. Moderate Chase Smith would be proud today. Declaration of Conscience, indeed.

Spoiler

I've always minded her the least of all of them.

 

[Aaron Strife]

He's done no such thing. He plans to vote yes on the current repeal only amendment which is exactly what he wants. To completely repeal the ACA. He is what he is but at least he's consistent.

It'd be really nice if Collins, Murkowski and Paul would stand their ground against the final bill, but I'm very concerned (to use a word I've come to hate).

 

[studyguy]

That's... not what I was saying.

That is a horrible take.

I said people were tired about how often Topher was saying that EVERYTHING IS BAD and confused/tired people to the point where they became less effective for activists. These are different things and might have ended up hurting their cause.

No one is disagreeing with that, most people are just saying senators who work together being happy people they see on the regular didn't up and die from cancer isn't worth freaking out about.

Also an aside.

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/889924362996002816
CSPAN (@cspan)
CLIP: @Statedeptspox says Secretary of State Tillerson is "taking a little time off." https://t.co/C2fGFvyWrb

 

[Oriel]

Sometimes people with brain cancer are bad people.

Fucks sake man!

 

[Ogodei]

Robert Costa‏
Verified account
@costareports
Sen. McCain's speech was a lion's roar.
3:27 PM - 25 Jul 2017


I fucking hate this country so much some times. McCain just cucked a good portion of our national media.

The media still loves their moderate darlings. I'll give credit that the Washington media's been better about fighting Trump than i feared, but they're still vapid courtiers at the end of the day, wanting more to be in a walk-on role in an Aaron Sorkin production than to care about the real people's lives the politicians toy with.

 

[Widdle Puppy]

He's done no such thing. He plans to vote yes on the current repeal only amendment which is exactly what he wants. To completely repeal the ACA. He is what he is but at least he's consistent.

I thought there were some riders in this that didn't make this a repeal Bill?

Honestly I have no fucking clue what's in this version just like the senators voting on it.

 

[jtb]

That's... not what I was saying.

That is a horrible take.

I said people were tired about how often Topher was saying that EVERYTHING IS BAD and confused/tired people to the point where they became less effective for activists. These are different things and might have ended up hurting their cause.

Well, the truth everyone knows but can't acknowledge is that the activists completely failed in the 2016 election. The phone calls are just therapy for the millions of people to absolve themselves from doing more last November.

(Is this the worst take of all???)

 

[~Kinggi~]

Robert Costa‏
Verified account
@costareports
Sen. McCain's speech was a lion's roar.
3:27 PM - 25 Jul 2017


I fucking hate this country so much some times. McCain just cucked a good portion of our national media.

I told everyone yesterday think tanks were at work to squeeze as much patriotism and good will out of McCains situation as possible for these votes.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Trump in Rose Garden: “I am disappointed in the attorney general. He should not have recused himself.”

https://twitter.com/AlexPappas/status/889932325521371140

So he is gonna make his life horrible till he quits.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

It'd be really nice if Collins, Murkowski and Paul would stand their ground against the final bill, but I'm very concerned (to use a word I've come to hate).

I wouldn't worry about Collins at all. Murkowski seems really hard to sway as well. Paul is very stubborn on passing just a straight repeal only.

By Paul's own admission, they plan on the votes failing going into the amendment process, so it's not like one of the older bills will surprisingly pass.

 

[kess]

Fucks sake man!

Do good people vote for bad bills?

 

[Veritigo_X]

Fucks sake man!

Are we supposed to pretend otherwise?

Like, you know what just happened right? We aren't shitting on McCain for no reason.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Fucks sake man!

maybe McCain should try not murdering thousands of people of he wants to be respected

 

[whyamihere]

Well, the truth everyone knows but can't acknowledge is that the activists completely failed in the 2016 election. The phone calls are just therapy for the millions of people to absolve themselves from doing more last November.

Probably.

 

[pigeon]

Thank God we had Bam Bam here to provide some calm reasoned perspective

 

[Widdle Puppy]

Bleh

 

[PBY]

The media still loves their moderate darlings. I'll give credit that the Washington media's been better about fighting Trump than i feared, but they're still vapid courtiers at the end of the day, wanting more to be in a walk-on role in an Aaron Sorkin production than to care about the real people's lives the politicians toy with.

I told everyone yesterday think tanks were at work to squeeze as much patriotism and good will out of McCains situation as possible for these votes.

There's... there's just so much of it right now...

Steve Clemons‏Verified account
@SCClemons

Right now @SenJohnMcCain is our greatest American, speaking in selfless, patriotic, inspired tones from Senate floor. I hope Trump hears

 

[Aaron Strife]

I wouldn't worry about Collins at all. Murkowski seems really hard to sway as well. Paul is very stubborn on passing just a straight repeal only.

By Paul's own admission, they plan on the votes failing going into the amendment process, so it's not like one of the older bills will surprisingly pass.

I guess I'm just curious what happens if the amendments all fail, including McConnell's dumbass skinny repeal. Do they just vote on AHCA as-is? Table the bill?

 

[Oriel]

There are people going through the same ordeal right now that he's working to strip coverage from. What the fuck is wrong with us? Nah, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Does this suddenly absolve him from being a decent human being?

Having cancer isn't carte blanche to fuck with peoples lives.

You do know that it's perfectly possible to criticise the man's politics and also show you're not a complete fucking arsehole by having some sympathy for the man on a human level.

Fuck out of here with that insane bullshit!