Support NeoGAF

[Wilsongt]

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!
6:29 PM · Aug 14, 2017

The media are BAD HOMBRES

 

[Blader]

Chris Cillizza @CillizzaCNN
·
5h
Just a reminder: Trump defines "fake news" as "news that isn't 'nice' to me."

Which has nothing to do with it being fake or real.

Cillizza with that 2015 hot take.

 

[neurosisxeno]

WikiLeaks
WikiLeaks @wikileaks
Replying to @CillizzaCNN
Quite possibly, however @CNN (and FOX) have indeed produced a vast array of false news reports including those which led to the Iraq war.
4:12 PM · Aug 14, 2017

K.

This is so disingenuous it's funny. Ignoring the fact that the Bush Administration cooked Intel to justify the Iraq War has to stop. When the Iraq War was started it had majority support in Congress and with the American people. A huge reason for that was bullshit speculative information that Bush and co. got from the CIA and basically warped and misused to fit their narrative. CNN isn't an intelligence agency, they reported on what the Administration at the time was telling everyone. And everyone else was reporting on it, because we thought it was the truth.

 

[JP_]

Posted? A&M canceled their reservation for white lives matter bullshit: http://today.tamu.edu/2017/08/14/texas-am-cancels-911-event-reservation/

 

[Hopfrog]

Cillizza with that 2015 hot take.

To paraphrase Basil Fawlty: "Next contestant, Chris Cillizza from CNN. Specialist subject, the bleeding obvious."

 

[sphagnum]

WHO PARIS

Paris Dennard, a dumb Trump surrogate.

 

[Kusagari]

I don't know why you guys even watch if Paris' is on.

The second I see him I turn it off.

 

[Random Human]

I don't know why you guys even watch if Paris' is on.

The second I see him I turn it off.

This feels like a good rule for any Trump surrogate.

 

[Wilsongt]

Hannity should be goooooooood tonight

The honorable Sherrif Tom

ke, Jr. @SheriffClarke
Watch as I join @seanhannity on @FoxNews tonight to talk Charlottesville ugly hate group clash between neo-nazi, antifa, and BLM. All losers

 

[Hubbl3]

Hannity should be goooooooood tonight

The honorable Sherrif Tom

ke, Jr. @SheriffClarke
Watch as I join @seanhannity on @FoxNews tonight to talk Charlottesville ugly hate group clash between neo-nazi, antifa, and BLM. All losers

I wonder if he pulls a gun on himself every time he looks in the mirror. The self hate is real.

 

[neurosisxeno]

Hannity should be goooooooood tonight

The honorable Sherrif Tom

ke, Jr. @SheriffClarke
Watch as I join @seanhannity on @FoxNews tonight to talk Charlottesville ugly hate group clash between neo-nazi, antifa, and BLM. All losers

They are trying really hard to make BLM similar to Nazi's huh. Guarantee they refuse to acknowledge connections between the GOP and Alt-Right to this rise in brazen displays of Nazism.

 

[bananas]

https://twitter.com/CarrieNBCNews/status/897153043338276865

 

[teiresias]

Sorry if old, but this popped up on my Facebook feed.

From an actual resident of Charlottesville:

"There seems to be a perception from people outside of Charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right" banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not.

A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked kkk.

A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on their way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the alt-right folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested.

So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging eachother on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents (which treated both sides... turns out the alt right erst didn’t bring any medics. Guess they planned on doing all the injuring), water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending."

 

[sphagnum]

Edit: Do you have a link to the person who originally posted that? ^^^

Not a fan of West( he was fully on the bandwagon that Hillary was gonna be the same or WORSE than Trump and is self aggrandizing) but putting him against Paris is just about the same as pitting a kitten against a tiger.

West demolished him.

Speaking of West, he was saying on Democracy Now that he felt that Antifa saved his life.

AMY GOODMAN: ...The Guardian reported that people that night, who were responding to the torch march, were actually attacked with swung torches, pepper spray and lighter fluid.

CORNEL WEST: Absolutely. You had a number of the courageous students, of all colors, at the University of Virginia who were protesting against the neofascists themselves. The neofascists had their own ammunition. And this is very important to keep in mind, because the police, for the most part, pulled back. The next day, for example, those 20 of us who were standing, many of them clergy, we would have been crushed like cockroaches if it were not for the anarchists and the antifascists who approached, over 300, 350 antifascists. We just had 20. And we’re singing "This Little Light of Mine," you know what I mean? So that the —

AMY GOODMAN: "Antifa" meaning antifascist.

CORNEL WEST: The antifascists, and then, crucial, the anarchists, because they saved our lives, actually. We would have been completely crushed, and I’ll never forget that. Meaning what? Meaning that you had the police holding back, on the one hand, so we couldn’t even get arrested. We were there to get arrested. We couldn’t get arrested, because the police had pulled back, and just allowing fellow citizens to go at each other, you see, and with all of the consequences that would follow therefrom.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/14/cornel_west_rev_toni_blackmon_clergy

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

WHO PARIS

Just think of this Gif when you hear someone talk about a Trump surrogate by the name of Paris

 

[RustyNails]

https://twitter.com/CarrieNBCNews/status/897153043338276865

White people horrible as usual.

 

[neurosisxeno]

White people horrible as usual.

I jokingly say "fucking white people" all the time. But there is no humor here. Fucking. White People.

 

[Wilsongt]

Is Seth Ahbramson in with the likes of Mensch?

 

[whyamihere]

Is Seth Ahbramson in with the likes of Mensch?

I consider him to be the cut from the same cloth.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Sorry if old, but this popped up on my Facebook feed.

Speaking of West, he was saying on Democracy Now that he felt that Antifa saved his life.
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/14/cornel_west_rev_toni_blackmon_clergy

Best examples of community organizing I have read in a while.

 

[Wilsongt]

I consider him to be the cut from the same cloth.

So grains of salt. Sounds good.

 

[teiresias]

Edit: Do you have a link to the person who originally posted that? ^^^

The link to the post is:

https://www.facebook.com/hayeskelly/posts/1637545369612833

but there's no original poster as it's a second-hand statement because the person wants to remain anonymous supposedly. Obviously, not greatly sourced, but I hadn't heard of many of the other incidents in that post.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

.

 

[Pixieking]

Ummm... This is pretty bad, right?

Justice demands 1.3M IP addresses related to Trump resistance site

The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.

DreamHost Announcements - We Fight for the Users

The request from the DOJ demands that DreamHost hand over 1.3 million visitor IP addresses — in addition to contact information, email content, and photos of thousands of people — in an effort to determine who simply visited the website. (Our customer has also been notified of the pending warrant on the account.)

That information could be used to identify any individuals who used this site to exercise and express political speech protected under the Constitution’s First Amendment. That should be enough to set alarm bells off in anyone’s mind.

 

[sphagnum]

The link to the post is:

https://www.facebook.com/hayeskelly/posts/1637545369612833

but there's no original poster as it's a second-hand statement because the person wants to remain anonymous supposedly. Obviously, not greatly sourced, but I hadn't heard of many of the other incidents in that post.

Thanks.

As for the above, hi DoJ!

 

[cooljeanius]

Is Seth Ahbramson in with the likes of Mensch?

They each consider the other one to be fake news.

 

[B-Dubs]

They each consider the other one to be fake news.

Yet in a shocking twist, they both are!

 

[Diablos]

So was it for any visitor to the website, period? Who the fuck cares?

 

[whyamihere]

They each consider the other one to be fake news.

lol amazing

 

[smokeandmirrors]

White people horrible as usual.

we really are the worst

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

The idea that Trump would have been better off keeping Mooch on and listening to him is wild to me.

 

[Sianos]

White people horrible as usual.

white people hitting peak "both sides are the same" moderate darlings status

the remaining 8 percent have ascended even further beyond to become one with the eternal nothingness

demolish them, emotionally and physically

smash the statues and build memorials to the horrors of the confederate's war to preserve slavery at their sites

tell the neoconfederates not to worry, because we're not erasing their history - we want no one to ever forget their crimes

 

[kess]

White people horrible as usual.

Even that 46% is probably concentrated in the South and Appalachia.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Every time I'm reminded of the very real possibility that the government could shut down or default, I just think of how fucking nuts it would be to imagine an Obama presidency where he couldn't even get Pelosi and Reid to do the bare minimum to keep the government running.

 

[Pixieking]

So was it for any visitor to the website, period?

That's how I read it, yes.

Who the fuck cares?

Not sure if serious.

Consistently, in dictatorial regimes, political dissidents are amongst the first to be outed, ostracised, and rounded-up. Germany in the '30s and the Cold War, Russia, China, South America, Middle East. As the blog states

While we have no insight into the affidavit for the search warrant (those records are sealed), the DOJ has recently asked DreamHost to provide all information available to us about this website, its owner, and, more importantly, its visitors.

Now it's a big leap from asking for info to what I mentioned above, but three things to consider.

1) There's been no implication of any crimes committed. Yes, affidavit is sealed, so maybe there is a crime there, but it seems awfully like a fishing expedition on the face of it. If there were evidence of a crime by indiviual or individuals, surely the warrant would be smaller in scope?
2) Imagine the administration doing this with "Small Government", "States Rights" or "White Nationalist" websites. They wouldn't, and even if they did, the owners, operators and visitors would (understandably) complain of federal over-reach.
3) I visted the site in question, and have it bookmarked. I am not a US citizen, but since the request was for everything, my data would be swept up alongside everyone else's.

 

[Diablos]

I meant who the fuck cares about who visited the website. It's beyond the pale that they are taking it so seriously.

 

[Pixieking]

I meant who the fuck cares about who visited the website. It's beyond the pale that they are taking it so seriously.

Oh, yeah, I get what you mean now. Yeah, I agree.

 

[B-Dubs]

I meant who the fuck cares about who visited the website. It's beyond the pale that they are taking it so seriously.

Voter purging. Get the information they want and they can purge a ton of voters from the rolls with it.

 

[BlastProcessing]

 

[Random Human]

I'm fascinated that this is the final straw for all these CEOs jumping ship. Like, I get why this is bad, but you'd think these guys would've gone ages ago, or not gotten on the ship in the first place.

 

[BlastProcessing]

I'm fascinated that this is the final straw for all these CEOs jumping ship. Like, I get why this is bad, but you'd think these guys would've gone ages ago, or not gotten on the ship in the first place.

The timing gives them political cover.

 

[Pixieking]

I'm fascinated that this is the final straw for all these CEOs jumping ship. Like, I get why this is bad, but you'd think these guys would've gone ages ago, or not gotten on the ship in the first place.

It may be they've now seen how ineffectual he is... GOP Presidency and Congress, and they've not passed anything worth a damn. He still whines about fake news, wibbles about Hillary, and hasn't learned a single thing. If you're a business, why are you going to continue to taint yourself with Trump's image when you're not even going to get anything worthwhile out of it? Jumping ship now saves your image in the long-run, and makes you look good for condemning Nazis, which even the President took two days to do.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Voter purging. Get the information they want and they can purge a ton of voters from the rolls with it.

That seems like more work than just dumping "urban" voters

 

[B-Dubs]

That seems like more work than just dumping "urban" voters

This is easier to justify to the American public. You brand the site as a terrorist network and then make your moves from there.

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

source?

 

[BlastProcessing]

source?

AP: Bowing to pressure, Trump denounces hate groups by name

 

[Emerson]

I've honestly never understood the desire to display a confederate flag or other similar displays. If I hailed from a long line of ancestors who were treasonous dipshit losers who got dumpstered in a war, I'd keep it to myself.

 

[Vestal]

I've honestly never understood the desire to display a confederate flag or other similar displays. If I hailed from a long line of ancestors who were treasonous dipshit losers who got dumpstered in a war, I'd keep it to myself.

I blame the Dukes of Hazard...

 

[Got the Shakes]

Intel CEO quitting the manufacturing council too.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/intel-ceo-quit-trumps-manufacturing-council.html

 

[Ernest]

Holy shit! Is this a straight up violation of the First Amendment, or am I bedwetting?

Justice demands 1.3M IP addresses related to Trump resistance site

The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.

“In essence, the Search Warrant not only aims to identify the political dissidents of the current administration, but attempts to identify and understand what content each of these dissidents viewed on the website,” the company’s general counsel, Chris Ghazarian, said in a legal argument opposing the request.