Aaron Strife
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I wish Northam was more progressive, but he's been surprisingly fiery in his public remarks since running for governor. I think he knows what he needs to do to win in the age of Trump.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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Brawly Likes to Brawl
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"YOU PEOPLE ARE BEING SO UNFAIR, THIS IS THE WORST VACATION EVER"
Dominican Power
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Trump never ceases to amaze me.
Makes them look like they're not starving?
Dubbedinenglish
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Hand me down uniforms
I don't care about their sincerity when they're busting up local businesses in the name of their ideology. They're causing harm to people for no reason.
I don't care about sincerity when it comes to shitty, discredited ideologies that are actively destructive and even worse options than the ones they're fighting against. It doesn't matter if you're a evangelical white nationalist or an atheist communist, they're all bad.
Difference between the two being that there are way more of the former than the latter.
RumbleHumble
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Thanks for the responses, gang. Whenever CNN or other sources I've used to figure out how Antifa is defined, I usually get something about as concrete as a description of the working structure of Anonymous at best. I guess the better question on my end would've been: who does the right wing think is Antifa, at which point the answer would be: everyone who publicly protests Donald Trump I suppose...
whyamihere
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me.
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Pretty much. And they're all bought off by George Soros because who could actually be against the great Trump if not being paid for it.
I don't care to ever look into his browsing history.
smokeandmirrors
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oh hello "both sides" havent seen you brought up in a discussion in like 5 minutes.
It's not "both sides".
One is an active threat to the country that's the dominate philosophy of the GOP. The other is a minor annoyance in comparison.
Just because one may be opposed to the other, doesn't mean they're inherently good.
edit: If you're going to fuck shit up- this is how you do it: https://twitter.com/VirginiaBridges/status/897234979633147904
smokeandmirrors
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i wish i could be as moderate as you! it surely takes a lot of effort to both sides everything.
fredrancour
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An opportunity to equate dissent with violence?
"Both sides" is when you have false equivocation. I am not equivocating the two.
smokeandmirrors
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Clearly, you don't understand context:
If we were in an post-racial world and there were violent leftists supported by a President Maduro, AntiFa would be an actual problem. But we're not. They're an annoying gnat in comparison to the danger posed by white supremacists.
....duh?
The Technomancer
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I mean I think we should agree "violence against Nazis" = complicated, but probably good and "violence against local property" = bad, right? Unless the property is owned by the Nazis?
But also like is there credible evidence that Antifa is even responsible for local property damage? I haven't seen it
But also like is there credible evidence that Antifa is even responsible for local property damage? I haven't seen it
Shocking if true
Not shocking at all and I'm sure most people with a functioning brain have already arrived at that conclusion given who's involved with this administration
smokeandmirrors
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nice of people on cnn to join is in this month of August in the year of our lord 2017
Republicans in congress have basically never called out Bannon or Miller directly, so I think it's pretty significant.
nature boy
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SAD! No GREAT REVIEWS for Cheeto!
Dickhead.
Dickhead.
Oh I didn't recognize the name, thought it was a CNN anchor. (cause I don't watch them cause if you want to talk about actual "both-sides"-ism, there you go.)
My opinion on this became somewhat more ambivalent when I learned that, in addition to their normal insurance claims, property owners can typically file claims against the city or state to seek redress for damages incurred during a riot.
Yeah, sorry. I forget everyone probably doesn't know random Florida congressman (though Curbelo's significant because his district went majorly for Hillary).
I don't think it's morally wrong because of, well, my avatar. But I think it's a tactic that often causes more blowback than it's worth and it tends to just confuse people more than make the statement anarchists want it to make. So I don't encourage it and I think it's not a good fit for a regular protest.
But it has it's place.
Lord_Byron28
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I looked on YouTube and there appears to be a little discourse and protesters. However, there is next to nothing on the organization. All I can find is an Antifa NYC Twitter page. YouTube and that one Twitter page is the best way to understand Antifa. Or at least what it is and why conservatives keep squawking about it. Personally, some of their rhetoric on Twitter and on their posters are a bit extreme and off putting. However, in general the videos I've seen seem to show organized protesting for the most part. They tend to wear all black and bandanas.
skullmuffins
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because some people might be lazy, this is a video of protesters toppling a confederate statue in Durham NC and it's awesome
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Bannon can get banished without too much initial fuss but Miller is Jared's little buddy and far more entrenched.
Not only that but Bannon can continue to influence the WH through Miller as a conduit even if he's sent packing as a symbolic expulsion.
Again, they are radicals. If fascism was eradicated entirely they'd set their sights on capitalism.
Lord_Byron28
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Yep they are still radicals. It's just hard to really get any verified sourcing our any real info about them.
aspiegamer
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Say there was some kind of semi-organized group of private citizens with an explicitly stated goal of pulling down all confederate monuments around the country, who would go town to town at night. Not outright destroying-- just pulling them down so that whole bullshit museum plan for it all could still happen. Could you find a jury that would actually convict them? Hell, even a prosecutor to charge them? Politicians and law enforcement might even silently welcome it since it would avoid the controversy of their having to order their removal eventually.
Spoiled Milk
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They're true anarchists. There is no organization. To be an anarchist is to rebel against oppression and structure, class and wealth, cult worship and rules. It is organic and voluntary. Emergent order.
Aaron Strife
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The new Sonic the Hedgehog game is getting better reviews than Trump.
I'd prefer if they don't destroy public property, and have the local government remove it officially. I'm wary with people taking "justice" into their own hands, because things can escalate.
Mania is the real deal based on what I've been reading. Two decades later there's finally a good Sonic game.
Aaron Strife
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Meh, I'm done with this approach.
This is a wack take.
Yeah, I mean, next thing you know we'll have armed militias and terrorist attacks.
Thunder Monkey
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*cough*
Doing it this way puts the question directly to them: "You really want to pay to replace/repair this shit? You really want that vote on your record?"
smokeandmirrors
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i could walk down the street and give someone a two day old hot dog that would get better reviews than trump
I mean in terms of the message not getting "mixed up" in the process then I suppose, but these bastions of the past need to get gone at this point.
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