CrimzonSamurai
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But if it splits out that part of the base from the GOP wouldn't that turn into a major electoral advantage for Dems?
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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But if it splits out that part of the base from the GOP wouldn't that turn into a major electoral advantage for Dems?
UberTag
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In the short-term, yes. But in the long-term it could drive the radical right-wing base into an even greater frenzy until they rally behind someone far more competent than Trump and sink the United States into a drastic upheaval. Especially if someone like Kamala Harris wins in 2020 and effectively becomes demonized as Obama-Hillary combined into a single person.
They probably consider the failed Trump experiment to be a trial run.
*shhhhhhh* Don't tell nobody
Officerrob
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Bannon does not give a shit about Trump or the GOP. Bannon is all about himself, what he believes in, and he's playing the long game
The radical right wing are much less dangerous if severed from the GOP, because that's their tap into governmental power and thus into the political narrative.
ShadowSwordmaster
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It might. This feels like it could be Tea Party 2.0 if we are not careful.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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When Dems get the country back they need to take the opportunity to drastically improve education.
Going against people inside the white house while he was in the white house helped him consolidate power. How will stories against the Trump white house play with his base? Like, who are they going to rally around if not their god? Isn't this the problem with the Blaze and all the other so-called anti-Trump conservative media? There's just no appetite for it.
I think Bannon is self-interested more than he is petty.
Officerrob
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Won't help when the problem is people.
The Trump base rallies around Donald Trump, not McMaster or Gary Cohn or Dina Powell.
And clearly going against people inside the White House while he was in the White House didn't help him consolidate any power, because it further marginalized him for months until his position became untenable, specifically because of the leaks and press campaigns he was waging against other WH aides. Bannon's interests and pettiness are not mutually exclusive.
nature boy
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Poodlestrike
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Long term, better education gives you better people.
Didn't Stephen Miller go to Harvard?
Well, Trump put them there. I just think he's content to continue spewing his racist bullshit and cash out. Perhaps groom other candidates. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Holy shit I just noticed Comey
Prof. Bathtub
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Yeah, I don't quite understand. If Mueller puts out a concluding statement of the obvious, does it suddenly become Shocking for GOP officials since it came from him and not Steele? It's possible but we'll have to see.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Man, I would not want Don Jr. being the thing standing between me and going to jail.
SatelliteOfLove
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I wonder if this means the GOP mellows out to pre-Obama levels, or if this just resets the clock back to 2012 or god forbid, 2014 levels of more-conservative-than-thou.
Seriously, one of my biggest fears from a post-Trump world is the GOP running away form Trumpism but remaining on that path, just put back several spaces and something similar but equally dangerous will emerge once Trump isn't recent memory.
Barring that, we'd still have the Kochs and other slimy-yet-not-insane billionaires coaxing a more circa-1995 economy model for the GOP to rally behind in an ever-less single-superpower world.
Frankly, anything short of lurching to Moderate Conservative-Centrist and a major soul-searching along what Flake was on about reguarding ethics and morals like what DIDN'T get followed thru when the Neocon empire imploded is courting a delayed disaster.
I mean, I'd like them to be more bipartisan with the Dems again, and the country needs that and fast, but that Deplorable crowd would work against that, never voting for a McMullin-type. The can cannot be kicked down the road here.
I dunno, it's not a fully crystalized thought yet, and I'm going on what I know, but yeah, still worried even when the Trumpster Fire is put out.
95% of "why would the alt-right..." is "Projection".
Served me well over this last year or so.
I love it!
Poodlestrike
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There's always a few assholes on the wrong end of the bellcurve.
(And really the big gains to be made are in K-12, by the time they get to college they're usually irredeemably shitty)
Bannon's still working for Trump. Just not from the White House. No "dirt" will come from him. Trump is still king shit of fuck mountain, everyone. Yet another thing we get all excited about from which nothing will come from.
I think it was more than two months ago, after some big "oppo drop", that I said "nothing will come from this" and I got yelled at, and here we are, I don't even remember what that was, but obviously nothing happened. And nothing will. Until 2020.
I think it was more than two months ago, after some big "oppo drop", that I said "nothing will come from this" and I got yelled at, and here we are, I don't even remember what that was, but obviously nothing happened. And nothing will. Until 2020.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I guess we have to wait and see what happens next while fighting Neo-Nazis and other bigots and racist.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
This doesn't really fit with what's already happened, both the Breitbart take on it and Bannon's comments about the Trump presidency being over.
Dubbedinenglish
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Lmao
ShadowSwordmaster
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That checks out.
Look at this moderate darling
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/my-...whines-over-outing-by-anti-fascist-group/amp/
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/my-...whines-over-outing-by-anti-fascist-group/amp/
Futurevoid
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The entire West Wing has been given an enema in the last four weeks but "nothing has happened". That's including the Chief of Staff, the Communications Director, Press Secretary and now the Chief Strategist and one of the most controversial figures in the White House.
Charlottesville happened. Three economic councils have been disbanded due to blowback from CEO's who have stood by Trump in the past and have quit in protest.
A pastor has just recently resigned from his evangelical advisory board. Possibly starting another exodus.
A presidency that is already hobbled in terms of its legislative agenda just took two more baseball bats to the knees thanks to Trumps comments. With Republican strategists actively telling members of congress to go at it alone on tax reform and act like Trump isn't even there.
We haven't even gotten to the shit show that the debt ceiling and budget fight will bring in September.
If your only bar for "happening" is a Trump impeachment, then yeah I suppose "nothing has happened" but there are those who know that that process will take time and aren't realistically looking for this to be the Nixon speedrun as much as it's joked about. In the interim, plenty has happened that will continue to prevent this president from being successful and that's currently pretty damned important and not worth being thrown into the "nothing will come of this" pile.
Officerrob
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Going to war against Trump's opponents means McConnell, Ryan, McMaster, Kushner, Kelly, etc.
Fenderputty
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Going to war against Kushner and McMaster can be construed to mean exactly why he said
RastaMentality
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If Obama's 2nd term made people go beserk and give us Trump, imagine what happens with a black woman.
Officerrob
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Trump Jr
Futurevoid
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ShadowSwordmaster
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Would people even want another Trump after this? I mean one that has close ties to whatever is going on with Russia?
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
I don't want to keep posting the same point but: you cannot go after Trump's chief of staff, his top advisers, whatever McMaster is I can't remember, and even the "Trump presidency" itself, and say you're not going after Trump. Just because you aren't literally naming Trump doesn't change the fact that you're CLEARLY going after him and his administration. And if you factor in going after the GOP establishment, you're making it harder for Trump to get stuff done, so that's also hurting him.
I really can't see any upside for Trump in anything Bannon does at this point.
I really can't see any upside for Trump in anything Bannon does at this point.
Futurevoid
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National push for changing the national anthem to "Bah Wit Da Bah" at the top of the legislative agenda for the GOP in 2024.
SomePerson
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So, is just me or is Youtube too far gone at this point? I've been listening to several left leaning Youtubers take on what happened in Charlottesville and, minus a few smaller ones that the horde hasn't descended upon, they are all downvoted like crazy and filled with comments trying to 'both sides' the attack or claim that Antifa were the real terrorists who brought violence to the rally. It's absolutely insane.
Oh my god. It'll be like a dumbass singularity crashing down on us.
Officerrob
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Can we never say never anymore?
BoboBrazil
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US isn't ready for a woman president. If dems run a woman again get prepared for another loss.
What is this footage originally from?
Officerrob
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Bannon doesn't care. He feels his chance to push his agenda through is over, go he will attack those who stood in his way. We know he has major issues with McMaster, Kushner, Ryan, etc. and I guarantee you he holds them accountable for the "globalism" on it's way
Autodidact
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A woman plagued by scandals and a virulent smear campaign won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Sure.
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