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[RumbleHumble]

If it needed 60 they wouldn't be voting tonight.

They're voting at midnight tonight because there's no more time for the Senate. This is their shot before everybody goes on vacation. Plus their tax plans are entirely dependent on passing SOMETHING here.

 

[HanShotFirst]

So what are the estimates for a "skinny" repeal(i.e: only removing individual mandate)?
How many without insurance by when?
and how high are premiums going up?

Also it seems like a skinny repeal is the most reversible of GOP plans. Obviously in the situation this is passed Dems won't simply just add the mandate again and will most likely include at least a public option if not moving towards single payer.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

If it needed 60 they wouldn't be voting tonight.

How can they know?

 

[Zolo]

So what are the estimates for a "skinny" repeal(i.e: only removing individual mandate)?
How many without insurance by when?
and how high are premiums going up?

Also it seems like a skinny repeal is the most reversible of GOP plans. Obviously in the situation this is passed Dems won't simply just add the mandate again and will most likely include at least a public option if not moving towards single payer.

The repeal being skinny was a lie to make it easier to advertise and easier to vote on.

 

[Aaron Strife]

IT'S GOING TO PASS AND THESE PEOPLE ARE MONSTERS AND THEY MUST PAY.

What kills me is they know how badly this is going to suck. All they're doing is playing hot potato with a live grenade.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So what are the estimates for a "skinny" repeal(i.e: only removing individual mandate)?
How many without insurance by when?
and how high are premiums going up?

Also it seems like a skinny repeal is the most reversible of GOP plans. Obviously in the situation this is passed Dems won't simply just add the mandate again and will most likely include at least a public option if not moving towards single payer.

16+ million uninsured and 20% increases in premiums within a year was the original estimate for just repealing the mandate. With the other changes, it's likely much higher now.

 

[Holmes]

Ahh I've been looking for this gif. Thank you

 

[RumbleHumble]

So what are the estimates for a "skinny" repeal(i.e: only removing individual mandate)?
How many without insurance by when?
and how high are premiums going up?

Also it seems like a skinny repeal is the most reversible of GOP plans. Obviously in the situation this is passed Dems won't simply just add the mandate again and will most likely include at least a public option if not moving towards single payer.

We don't know yet because the skinny morphed into bizarro BCRA. CBO score won't be coming until maybe midnight tonight.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

It NEEDS 60 unless they nuke the filibuster.

We literally won't know until it's being voted on.

This is making me nervous.

 

[shem935]

This is making me nervous.

It should.

 

[Dierce]

Fucking republicans know that they won't face any repercussions. Their fanatics will die for their ideals, even if it's because of it.

At this point the only political disadvantage republicans face is undoing the ACA which leads to the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands or rural people over time. And that will only be because they won't be around to vote republican.

 

[Zyae]

Its going to pass. Murkowski and Capito likely flipped. What a joke(unless its ruled they need 60)

 

[Hopfrog]

AMA just released a pretty scathing statement on "skinny" repeal.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Fucking republicans know that they won't face any repercussions. Their fanatics will die for their ideals, even if it's because of it.

If this passes, no office in this country is off the table for a Democrat win

Its going to pass. Murkowski and Capito likely flipped. What a joke(unless its ruled they need 60)

Wait what, where did you hear Murkowski flipped?

 

[benicillin]

Dems working to Byrd Bath it right now. The more unpalatable they make it to the HFC the better the chance this actually goes to conference.

 

[whyamihere]

I cannot wait to pass single payer on a 50+1 vote and Republican will cry and guess what I don't give a single flying fuck you murderous assholes.

 

[AnotherNils]

Hoping to god Bernie is already making a case with the parliamentarian that this needs 60.

 

[Zyae]

If this passes, no office in this country is off the table for a Democrat win

Wait what, where did you hear Murkowski flipped?

her and capito released a joint statement saying they made their decision and "we would have to wait to find out"


Not sounding great.

 

[Aaron Strife]

I cannot wait to pass single payer on a 50+1 vote and Republican will cry and guess what I don't give a single flying fuck you murderous assholes.

Yuuuuuup.

And I hope McCain and McConnell live long enough to see it.

Scratch that I hope they die and are replaced by Democrats.

her and capito released a joint statement saying they made their decision and "we would have to wait to find out"


Not sounding great.

Unless they're Thelma and Louising this, then fuck them.

 

[Barzul]

This bill as is will pass the house. Murkowski, Collins, Graham, McCain must know it and they're complicit.

 

[benicillin]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

 

[Kusagari]

I don't see what Murkowski would have to gain from voting for this at all.

 

[whyamihere]

BOB CASEY IS A NATIONAL FUCKING TREASURE

@SenBobCasey
I found the page where this scheme provides "insurance for everybody" and ensures "no one will be worse off financially."

 

[Owzers]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

Rose garden celebration.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

something something Hillary

 

[Barzul]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

They can't, it's theirs. The changes with this will be immediate there's no ease in period at all really.

 

[Emerson]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

'we told them not to though!!'

 

[Aaron Strife]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

"Paul Ryan lied to us! We never would have thought this bill we voted for would become law!"

 

[TumblingHippo]

So if the senate passes this and the House just votes on it with no conference, how do they expect to explain that away?

"Hey base we won! The evil Obama is defeated!"

I mean, eventually they have to run out of things to blame Obama on, right? ...right?

 

[Zyae]

PERRY BACON JR. 10:37 PM
The silence in the last 30 minutes from Heller, Moran and McCain — folks who have been more critical of the Obamacare repeal push — is telling. I just don’t see members who have not signaled opposition in the last few hours suddenly voting against this. I assume the leadership has some sense that they have 50 votes. They are acting confident.

Not looking good.

 

[shem935]

Rose garden celebration.

Lots of beer at the white house tbh

 

[Zolo]

Not looking good.

Unless it's somehow revealed it needs 60 votes, it's done.

 

[PBY]

This is passing.

 

[Aaron Strife]

This is such a microcosm of what's wrong with American democracy, specifically what happened last year.

Hey man, I voted for Trump/Stein/Johnson/didn't vote, but you can't blame me for when shit goes wrong! It's all Hillary's fault, damn it! She didn't give me enough reasons not to drive us off the cliff!

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So anyway, to get out of the pity party, how's the Byrd rule arguments going?

 

[whyamihere]

This will hurt in 2018, 2020, and 2022. They will pay.

 

[Drkirby]

I don't really recall Congress ever being this Chaotic.

 

[AnotherNils]

her and capito released a joint statement saying they made their decision and "we would have to wait to find out"


Not sounding great.

Which is bullshit anyway. Why hide your intentions unless you know they're unpopular/wrong?

 

[Aaron Strife]

This will hurt in 2018, 2020, and 2022. They will pay.

Pessimist in me is going to say "but we'll pass single-payer and voters will go GOP in 2022" but fuck that, not again. I will drive every lazy dumbshit college student to the polls myself if I have to. Assuming President Pigeon doesn't ban cars by then.

 

[thepotatoman]

I wonder when the last time, if ever, there was a bill that the congress and senate openly admits was a bad idea to pass as they vote yes on passing it, on hopes it'll be fixed down the line.

 

[RumbleHumble]

CNN is still reporting McCain as a no. Where are the reports that they flipped Murkowski?

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

Imagine if this passes and the student loan bubble busts.

Oh man.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

CNN is still reporting McCain as a no. Where are the reports that they flipped Murkowski?

After everything that happened, I do not trust McCain.

 

[whyamihere]

THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A FUCKING RECESSION

 

[UberTag]

This will hurt in 2018, 2020, and 2022. They will pay.

It's up to the American people to hold them accountable for taking their health care away.
Talk is cheap unless you show up to the polls.

 

[Suikoguy]

If McCain is the one who somehow prevents this from passing, I'll be eating so much crow.

 

[Pixieking]

Amy Fried‏ @ASFried 47m47 minutes ago

Prohibited unless said as snark: "World's greatest deliberative body."

.

 

[kirblar]

THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A FUCKING RECESSION

Yes.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Imagine if this passes and the student loan bubble busts.

Oh man.

Add in a housing market built on more debt at the same level as pre-great recession and we're in for a real great time if something isn't done soon.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Imagine if this passes and the student loan bubble busts.

Oh man.

Toss in a shake of retail collapse