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PoliGAF Election Day 2008 Thread of A New Dawn in America (OBAMA ELECT)
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ColdDeckEd
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DOO13ER said:
Has America turned into Sweden already?
Shockgamer
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Oprah's high on Hopium. Holy crap, OVERDOSE!
Shaheed79 said:
And they only get Texas for another ten to fifteen years. Demographic shifts are eating away the Bubba vote.
All of the major urban centers other than Fort Worth went for Obama.
Better yet, Texas is likely to have 37, instead of 34 electoral votes when 2012 comes around, and most of the increase in population is either Hispanic or out of state.
and my ex just deleted my response to her explaining that the market is down because service sector jobs are down and rumors are heavy that retail sales numbers at market close are going to be really bad.
Evidently she prefers to think that the economy is tanking because Obama won.
Evidently she prefers to think that the economy is tanking because Obama won.
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AstroLad said:
I am in the 10% and it sucks... I want to run freeeeeeeee.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1856584_1856586,00.html
Awesome reactions from world leaders. How ANY rational human being can say this is not a GOOD thing blow my mind.
Awesome reactions from world leaders. How ANY rational human being can say this is not a GOOD thing blow my mind.
electricpirate said:
Firstly, I'm breathless and thrilled to see Obama elected.
I'm slowy reading throud this massive thread so this reply is going to pop up several pages after the initial post. I couldn't agree more.
Trying to place American politics on the global liberal/conservative scale will not make sense.
On the social issues, America is easily right of centre, but demographically, the US is far more diverse than any single European state, which tend to be highly historieid, generally homogeneous culturally, ethnically and certainly politically and much smaller in size.
I don't claim any expertise but I think its fair to say that for Europeans in particular to comprehend the complexity of the United States is to imagine a Europe with Turkey in the Union, plus the conservative eastern bloc states, in a federal system where there is no Nicholas Sarkozy running France, or an Angela Merkle running Germany, but a Pan European candidate.
And imagine Turkey's population advantage trumping Western European more progressive lean.
Steve Youngblood
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Xeke said:
I don't think I can beat that, but here's mine:
"A is waiting for his redistribution check. sweet sweet money here I come."
"B is weeping for his personal liberties."
"C is shit..."
"D is done, that's it, I quit."
"E is yes we did... begin a socialist government. fucking disgusting."
"F is wondering whos moving to Canada with her? Sad that people shouldnt have to take a test in order to vote."
Firstly, I'm breathless and thrilled to see Obama elected. Congratulations to everyone who voted. Obama's election is a vindication that America is truly an exceptional place, even if American exceptionalism as an ideology has been misused and abused in the past decade.
On another point that generally adresses American politics a few pages back.
Trying to place American politics on the global liberal/conservative scale will not make sense.
On the social issues, America is easily right of centre, but demographically, the US is far more diverse than any single European state, which tend to be highly historieid, generally homogeneous culturally, ethnically and certainly politically (even if they have large minorities) and much smaller in size.
I don't claim any expertise but I think its fair to say that for Europeans in particular to comprehend the complexity of the United States is to imagine a Europe with Turkey in the Union, plus the conservative eastern bloc states, in a federal system where there is no Nicholas Sarkozy running France, or an Angela Merkel running Germany, but a Pan European candidate.
And imagine Turkey + Eastern bloc's population advantage trumping Western Europe's more progressive lean on these pan European federal votes and you can begin to grasp why calling American's dumb for electing W. or backwards for failing to pass legislation your country passed when they are much smaller and more alike, is often misguided.
Cheers, and let me say again. Congratulations America.
On another point that generally adresses American politics a few pages back.
Trying to place American politics on the global liberal/conservative scale will not make sense.
On the social issues, America is easily right of centre, but demographically, the US is far more diverse than any single European state, which tend to be highly historieid, generally homogeneous culturally, ethnically and certainly politically (even if they have large minorities) and much smaller in size.
I don't claim any expertise but I think its fair to say that for Europeans in particular to comprehend the complexity of the United States is to imagine a Europe with Turkey in the Union, plus the conservative eastern bloc states, in a federal system where there is no Nicholas Sarkozy running France, or an Angela Merkel running Germany, but a Pan European candidate.
And imagine Turkey + Eastern bloc's population advantage trumping Western Europe's more progressive lean on these pan European federal votes and you can begin to grasp why calling American's dumb for electing W. or backwards for failing to pass legislation your country passed when they are much smaller and more alike, is often misguided.
Cheers, and let me say again. Congratulations America.
electricpirate
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StoOgE said:
They should have a filibuster proof majority for this idea by now, assuming McCain has come back to his senses and will vote for it after saying he wouldn't.
CharlieDigital
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Diablos said:
When Obama and other pundits say "only in America," they really mean it. That a minority with a funny name can win the highest office, in a country that is still mostly white speaks volumes about how the landscape has changed.
Shaheed79 said:
But you have to remember, Texas was not a targeted state. Had they actually targeted Texas they probably could have gotten 3-4 points closer.
Let's put it this way: Texas may have been more in play for Obama than Pennsylvania was for McCain.
Give Texas 10 years of the sort of demographic change that Colorado, Nevada and Arizona have and it will be a slight R lean. That is a win in and of itself. Media buys in Texas are expensive as fuck. Just making the Republicans advertise in Texas while the Dems spend money elsewhere is full of win.
Tim-E said:
Some of mine:
"Kortney is moving to Australia!"
"Nayeli is sad for our country."
"Nayeli is strugglin 2 be proud 2 be an american right now."
"Percy is trying not to think of what might happen in the next very long 4 years..."
"Percy is just all over bummed at the ignorance of some Americans."
"Randa does not have anything nice to say right now so she better not say anything at all..."
"Bill is ugh!"
"Caitlin is moving to another country."
That is exactly my point. Someone else pointed that out on CNN a few days ago that the GOP will lose Texas in the near future unless they make big changes in their ideology and without Texas they will be in a near hopeless disadvantage every election. Minorities are growing not shrinking.besada said:
ColdDeckEd
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belvedere said:
It might be propaganda, if he wasn't 100% correct. On everything.
I feel really bad for Mccain. To pander towards those that wronged you 8 years prior and to toss aside nearly everything you've lived your life for in an attempt to make one last dash towards your long life dream... only to come short must be extremely disheartening. He's lost a lot of my respect through out this campaign but I can't help but feel sorry for him.
Steve Youngblood said:
That last one in particular is completely fucking stupid. She's right, we should have to take a test, and she just failed miserably. What about an Obama Presidency does she think she would escape in Canada? Socialism? Abortion? The gay? Fail, fail, fail.
bob_arctor
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Tamanon said:
:lol Well, maybe they'll grow up a little in the meantime.
mightynine
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Tamanon said:
Actually, it's "It's Independence Day".
Martina McBride song.
Don't ask how I know this.
To anyone who's wondering what the Chief of Staff does:
Just think about what you thought the vice president did when you were little, before you realized that the VP doesn't do anything... that's what the Chief of Staff does.
Although, while I think it'd be great for him to have a cabinet of superstars, and have a bipartisan cabinet, the most important thing is to have a cabinet that works together well. We can't take another disfunctional mess of a cabinet like we had under W.
But I would like Kerry to get a spot in the cabinet, although he may not the most qualified guy for Sec. of State (personally I think he'd be well suited for the job,) he's definitely qualified on a wide variety of issues and has a lot of experience from the Senate. i hope there's a place for him in the Obama administration. He's a smart, brave guy, he was just unlucky enough to be born with the charisma of a dead horse.
Just think about what you thought the vice president did when you were little, before you realized that the VP doesn't do anything... that's what the Chief of Staff does.
Oh no, I'm just kidding, I definitely don't want Obama to go down the Bush route.besada said:
Although, while I think it'd be great for him to have a cabinet of superstars, and have a bipartisan cabinet, the most important thing is to have a cabinet that works together well. We can't take another disfunctional mess of a cabinet like we had under W.
But I would like Kerry to get a spot in the cabinet, although he may not the most qualified guy for Sec. of State (personally I think he'd be well suited for the job,) he's definitely qualified on a wide variety of issues and has a lot of experience from the Senate. i hope there's a place for him in the Obama administration. He's a smart, brave guy, he was just unlucky enough to be born with the charisma of a dead horse.
Yeah, I'm exausted.Hitokage said:
Here is what turning Texas blue would look like to the electoral map.
I would consider this an extremely safe EV count + Texas. 30 votes shy of the magic number, and there are multiple blue states left off of that count. If Texas turns blue Dems are in the catbird seat to win every presidential election.
I would consider this an extremely safe EV count + Texas. 30 votes shy of the magic number, and there are multiple blue states left off of that count. If Texas turns blue Dems are in the catbird seat to win every presidential election.
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