Charlotte Metro Area - 1,675,495 (2008 est.)speculawyer said:Really? NC has been pretty much written off as a loss. The research triangle is definitely a cool area but I don't think it can outweigh the rest of the state.
Biden needs to find a way to get people/media to pay attention to him then worry about getting the message out. At this point unless he makes another racial comment I think hes gonna sit on the sidelines the rest of the election. The last article I read from the MSM on Biden was about Bishops in the Catholic Church saying he needs to shut up about church beliefs basically as he has no clueOdrion said:Biden needs to highlight the initial thoughts that giving Palin any real power would be disastrous.
Odrion said:Biden needs to highlight the initial thoughts that giving Palin any real power would be disastrous.
Bishman said:What happen with this story?
It is a precarious position, but it's still a fight that can be won. The goal is to make her look like a flash in the pan pick of political expedience who doesn't understand the issues. That's the proper inexperience to focus on. Yeah, you can't just get out there and go "lolz, she's only been a governor for two years!" But you can make her look not up to snuff and unvetted potentially.deadbeef said:Why because she's inexperienced? It will just allow the Republicans to bring up Obama's experience, and we're back to comparing VP to Obama.
Second verse, same as the first!
notjackbauer said:Hopefully we'll get some ammo once she actually, y'know, says something.
Which probably means waiting for the debates.notjackbauer said:Hopefully we'll get some ammo once she actually, y'know, says something.
Fo real, fucking Matt Damon put it best.Odrion said:Biden needs to highlight the initial thoughts that giving Palin any real power would be disastrous.
Byakuya769 said:Or just beat the drum of "I don't know who Sarah Palin is, the media hasn't gotten the opportunity to know her either". I mean the fact that she hasn't done a real interview should be a pretty big deal. Not to mention she has been repeating the same speech since the rnc. Some ppl want to make Barack out to be an empty suit, but she's the one that fits that bill.
PantherLotus said:Has anybody commented on the idea that the Obama camp knew exactly what it was doing when they had him drop the lipstick bomb? I think they were goading the Right into attacking so they could spring the GOTCHA trap.
Amazingly, it worked.
http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergatePalin family was ordered not to disparage trooper
ANCHORAGE, Alaska Sarah Palin's family was ordered by a judge three years ago not to disparage her sister's ex-husband, the Alaska state trooper at the center of an investigation into whether the governor abused her power trying to get him fired.
A custody investigator appointed concluded that Molly McCann, Palin's sister, had disparaged Mike Wooten in front of their children, Judge John Suddock said during an October 2005 hearing. The judge warned her and her relatives not to disparage Wooten in front of the kids.
"Disparaging is not to be tolerated it's a form of child abuse," Suddock said, according to notes on the hearing included in the divorce file.
The Alaska Legislature is investigating whether Palin, the Republican candidate for vice president, fired former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan because he would not dismiss Wooten, a probe known as "Troopergate." Monegan has said he believes Wooten's continued employment was the reason for his dismissal, but Palin has denied that was the reason.
Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press on Wednesday.
SpeedingUptoStop said:Fo real, fucking Matt Damon put it best.
"I really need to know, does she believe Dinosaurs were around 4,000 years ago? Because she's gonna have access to the launch codes.":lol
Seriously, just run a campaign ad from now till november - 5 seconds, easy money.
*A shot of Palin grinning liek an idiot*
*fade in* ".....she's gonna have access to the launch codes." - Will Hunting, just about the smartest fictional character of our time.
I;m Barack Obama and I approve this message.
Well, she kind of is right now. However, the acceptance of the GOP's definition of her alone is not going to be enough to carry her popularity through the the election.Sirpopopop said:No one cares.
Sarah Palin is fucking teflon.
This is what happens when you shit on your base.speculawyer said:Damn . . . where did the AP find these balls?
http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate
speculawyer said:Damn . . . where did the AP find these balls?
http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate
SpeedingUptoStop said:Fo real, fucking Matt Damon put it best.
"I really need to know, does she believe Dinosaurs were around 4,000 years ago? Because she's gonna have access to the launch codes.":lol
Seriously, just run a campaign ad from now till november - 5 seconds, easy money.
*A shot of Palin grinning liek an idiot*
*fade in* ".....she's gonna have access to the launch codes." - Will Hunting, just about the smartest fictional character of our time.
I;m Barack Obama and I approve this message.
And by 'your base', do you mean McCain's base: The Media?GhaleonEB said:This is what happens when you shit on your base.
140.85 said:
Yup.speculawyer said:And by 'your base', do you mean McCain's base: The Media?
There's a LOT more to it than that. They are just lifting from a Newsweek article from yesterday. (Mentioned it here.)deadbeef said:So the judge told her sister not to talk down to her ex-husband in front of the kids? And that relates to Palin how, besides the on-going trooper investigation, of which there is no new information in there.
They're digging deep on this aren't they?
140.85 said:
No. they donate as they put it "part" of the fundsFull Recovery said:that $20 goes to Obamas campaign correct?
Oh . . . you appear to be ignorant on what happened. Let me enlighten you:deadbeef said:So the judge told her sister not to talk down to her ex-husband in front of the kids? And that relates to Palin how, besides the on-going trooper investigation, of which there is no new information in there.
They're digging deep on this aren't they?
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/vetting_wooten_and_troopergateIn 2005, Palin and her sister Molly went to the Palmer Courthouse while Mike Wooten was in Portland with his stepson. They convinced a judge to grant Molly a domestic violence restraining order against Wooten. This was done so Molly could retain full custody of the children.
When Wooten returned from Portland, he realized that there was a order prohibiting him from seeing his kids. Three weeks later, Wooten was granted an appearance in front of the couple's divorce judge.
In front of Judge Suddock, Molly testified that Wooten never hit her or never physically abused her or ever touched the children. She told the judge she was feeling pressure from her family to file the order.
Suddock immediately dissolved the order because there was no proof of any domestic violence and called the order an abuse of the legal system. He then scolded Palin's sister for keeping Wooten's kids away from him.
BobTheFork said:To me, the phrase of the day has been: DRILL DRILL DRILL
Its such an defective mentality that I honestly don't know how to react. Seriously, I can't decide if its extreme stupidity or monumental selfishness. If they honestly think we can just drill drill drill and everything will be ok, then its stupidity. Now, I know people are dumb but I refuse to believe there exists that level of obliviousness to the simple fact of a NON-renewable resource. So, IMO the majority know but just don't give a shit and want as much comfort now without regard to the future of humanity.
I go to bed now wondering which is worse and which pisses me off the most.
Lipstick gate is disappointing, this was just sad.
I don't think that people are dumb so much as there just is not enough debate on the merits. The fact of the matter is that, this summer, gas prices shocked people out of complacency. They're scared that someday in the near future, they might not be able to easily afford to drive to work. And while alternatives sound great for some undisclosed time in the future, we want something, anything, that will alleviate our fears about gas prices today.BobTheFork said:Now, I know people are dumb but I refuse to believe there exists that level of obliviousness to the simple fact of a NON-renewable resource.
Steve Youngblood said:Well, she kind of is right now. However, the acceptance of the GOP's definition alone is not going to be enough to carry her popularity through the the election.
That's not to say that she's definitely going to flounder, or that she will get grilled extensively. I'm just saying that at some point, the narrative alone is going to serve as her basis for having proven herself.
Sirpopopop said:Once again, GAF needs to deal with McCain-Palin. The Americans here need to accept mediocrity, and get their passports in order so they can move elsewhere.
GhaleonEB said:Yup.
There's a LOT more to it than that. They are just lifting from a Newsweek article from yesterday. (Mentioned it here.)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140
speculawyer said:Oh . . . you appear to be ignorant on what happened. Let me enlighten you:
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/vetting_wooten_and_troopergate
The October suprise was determined by McCain when he selected Palin.
It HAS stuck. However, again, that alone will not be sufficient to carry her through two months of general election campaigning.Sirpopopop said:The GOP definition has stuck. Deal with it.
DrEvil said:Obama just finished a very lengthy interview on Letterman, it was really great - he made a crack about the lipstick again, called palin the lipstick, and mccain's policy the pig...
in the context of the 'flawed logic' it was funny, but it COULD come back at him,,,
He's simultaneously attacking policy and taking jabs at their feigned outrage. It might prove effective.Guts Of Thor said:He really needs to stop mentioning it. For the past two days there has been no discussion of policy and any day where policy is not the focus is a good day for McCain.
APF said:Joe for god's sake, you don't have to do all this--you're not Hillary but that's ok, you don't have to pretend you are we'll still vote for Senator Rainbows and Candy
smh
Exactly. All this talk of Obama walking the Republicans into a trap is nonesense.Guts Of Thor said:He really needs to stop mentioning it. For the past two days there has been no discussion of policy and any day where policy is not the focus is a good day for McCain.
DrEvil said:Obama just finished a very lengthy interview on Letterman, it was really great - he made a crack about the lipstick again, called palin the lipstick, and mccain's policy the pig...
in the context of the 'flawed logic' it was funny, but it COULD come back at him,,,