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[Imm0rt4l]

Prolly posted here before, but I just had a real good laugh:

McCain: Dazed and Confused

that bottle of hot water to dehydrated babies always gets me :lol

 

[JayDubya]

And people defending Palin's "God's task" comment aren't understanding the underlying problem.

People attacking such a non-issue don't understand anything.

 

[Funky Papa]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

 

[sevenchaos]

Well, she agrees with you there. She never did imply such a thing. But I've already quoted her so I'm obviously wasting my time here. It's as if you guys want ignore what she actually said.

"pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country. That our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to be praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan. Bless them with your prayers."

How can you not understand something like that? Fine you don't want the hand to point to Iraq then lets look at the fact that she's talking about the military. So Jesus/G-d likes war? He likes humans killing humans?

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

:lol :lol Mistakes have been made.

 

[VanMardigan]

Is the interview over? My local ABC is showing the news.

 

[The Blue Jihad]

Well, she agrees with you there. She never did imply such a thing. But I've already quoted her so I'm obviously wasting my time here. It's as if you guys want ignore what she actually said.

Here's the thing, man. Answer me this. If she doesn't presume to know God's plan, then why would she even entertain the notion that the Iraq War is part of God's plan? If she believes it impossible to know God's plan, she never would have even mentioned God's plan in any capacity whatsoever. And yet she made a specific point about God's plan in what you quoted.

Then here in Gibson's interview, when he pressed her on it, she floundered and scrambled to come up with a hackjob reply, trying to sound politically correct.

You tell me there's nothing bizarre going on.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Palin being President should scare the shit out of any sane person....regardless of party affiliation.

 

[giga]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

:lol

 

[Frank the Great]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

Ok. Maybe this WILL get some attention.

That is just utterly embarrassing. The look on her face :lol

 

[Zeliard]

People attacking such a non-issue don't understand anything.

Yes, it was a non-issue that Bush felt he was on a mission from God. That didn't guide any of his policies at all.

 

[JayDubya]

"pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country. That our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to be praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan. Bless them with your prayers."

How can you not understand something like that? Fine you don't want the hand to point to Iraq then lets look at the fact that she's talking about the military. So Jesus/G-d likes war? He likes humans killing humans?

How can you not understand?

To Christians, like Palin, God is good, and God has a plan, and by following God's plan and doing his will, people do good.

So pray that our troops do good. Pray that our leaders have a plan and it's to do good.


Obama prays every morning that he will be an instrument of God's will.

 

[Tamanon]

I don't care about the God stuff, I care about the fact that she actually doesn't have a plan or idea about anything outside of the borders. Look, seeing Russia from Alaska is a great joke, we'll all have a laugh, but that's actually being presented as credible proof that she can control our brave men and women in the armed forces. People's husbands, wives, children, parents, in the hands of someone who thinks we should give enough of a damn about Georgia of all places, to declare war on a Superpower.

 

[devilhawk]

I don't see how Georgia being in NATO is a good idea.

I think keeping them out of the NATO house leaves options in regards to how to respond if they happened to be attacked again. There would be no binding obligations of formal association, but we would still have the options that include whatever our expected response would be if they were a part of NATO.

Then you have no idea of what the point of NATO is. The whole point of NATO is a pact to prevent attacks. If the NATO states want Georgia or whoever to join then they should join. It is no different thinking than if any other NATO country was attacked. There is no point to NATO if it does not collectively respond according to its charter.

If Georgia is in NATO and is attacked. NATO must respond.

What is the difference between one NATO country and another? There are several NATO countries that share borders with Russia. Don't give me this buffer shit.

 

[VanMardigan]

Palin being President should scare the shit out of any sane person....regardless of party affiliation.

It doesn't scare me. She's not the most qualified, yeah, but she'll have enough people around her and she'll do what she has to do.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

Holy fuck. That was PAINFUL. :lol

"In what respect, Charlie?"

She might as well have asked, "What the hell is that, Charlie?"

 

[Funky Papa]

Ok. Maybe this WILL get some attention.

That is just utterly embarrassing. The look on her face :lol

You can clearly see the "!" sign over her head as the question hits her only functioning brain cell. It is bewildering.

 

[Zeliard]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

Indefensible. Gibson actually had to explain to her what the Bush Doctrine is.

GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

PALIN: His world view.

GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.

PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that's the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

It's embarrassing even in print. On camera, with her visible confusion, it's even worse.

 

[Frank the Great]

How can you not understand?

To Christians like Palin, God is good, and God has a plan, and by following God's plan and doing his will, people do good.

So pray that our troops do good. Pray that our leaders have a plan and it's to do good.


Obama prays every morning that he will be an instrument of God's will.

But what the hell is God's plan, and who decides it?

That is the scary part.

Holy fuck. That was PAINFUL. :lol

"In what respect, Charlie?"

She might as well have asked, "What the hell is that, Charlie?"

"STOP IT CHAWLIE! STOP IT CHAWLIE IT HUUUURTS"

 

[Trurl]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

:lol
It's a shame that Gibson gave her the context of the time that the Bush Doctrine comes from. I get the impression that if he hadn't she could have just as easily talked about free trade as terrorism, haha.

"His world view." *blinks*

 

[The Blue Jihad]

How can you not understand?

To Christians like Palin, God is good, and God has a plan, and by following God's plan and doing his will, people do good.

So pray that our troops do good. Pray that our leaders have a plan and it's to do good.

Obama prays every morning that he will be an instrument of God's will.

One group in your reply uses "God's will" as a springboard for absolutes in government.

The other uses "God's will" as a springboard to genuinely help those in need.

 

[JayDubya]

But what the hell is God's plan, and who decides it?

That is the scary part.

I guess that's why they're praying that they're following it, then, huh?

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

How can you not understand?

To Christians like Palin, God is good, and God has a plan, and by following God's plan and doing his will, people do good.

So pray that our troops do good. Pray that our leaders have a plan and it's to do good.


Obama prays every morning that he will be an instrument of God's will.

There is so much other stuff to call her on, I don't understand why the god issue is the one they insist on. But, I've seen enough religi-gaf threads to know that this is horribly important to this message board. Then again, if the dems cared about the election, they would leave religion alone and try to persuade voters, rather than ridiculing them.

People wonder why dems can't win... Maybe it has something to do with sticking their noses up at 2/3 of the country?

 

[sevenchaos]

How can you not understand?

To Christians, like Palin, God is good, and God has a plan, and by following God's plan and doing his will, people do good.

So pray that our troops do good. Pray that our leaders have a plan and it's to do good.


Obama prays every morning that he will be an instrument of God's will.

Right there in her quote talking about our national leaders sending them out on a "task from G-d". And again I ask does G-d like killing? Does he want us fighting wars?

 

[Door2Dawn]

Meh,shes doing fine.

 

[Tamanon]

Indefensible. Gibson actually had to explain to her what the Bush Doctrine is.

GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

PALIN: His world view.

GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.

PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that's the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

It's embarrassing even in print. On camera, with her visible confusion, it's even worse.

The funniest part is that it also seemed to catch Gibson completely off guard that she had no clue.:lol

 

[NomarTyme]

It going to be fun watching Daily show/Colbert report on Monday.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

this whole country is fucked, we're fucked. i didn't watch my buddies die face down in the mud so this -

 

[The Blue Jihad]

:lol
It's a shame that Gibson gave her the context of the time that the Bush Doctrine comes from. I get the impression that if he hadn't she could have just as easily talked about free trade as terrorism, haha.

"His world view." *blinks*

Sorry, but there's no blinking allowed here. By the word of Sarah Palin, blinking means you aren't ready to dish out the change.

 

[Barrett2]

The Bush Doctrine blunder would make an awesome commercial for Obama! Please make it happen! :lol

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

His show is comprised on tacking on these talking points to the new news of the day, and to every interview/caller etc. The more talking points he can string together in one sentence, the more excited he gets.

So its a republican version of Tony Hawk. I can dig that.

 

[soul creator]

to be fair, the "god's plan" stuff kinda applies to any Christian. And yes, it is quite contradictory no matter what context it's used in. Even if you think "god's plan" is to help innocent old ladies, that's still presuming to know what god wants. God could in fact, just be an asshole who hates old ladies. Of course, it's much nicer when people think that wars aren't part of god's plan.

It's still slightly unsettling when politicians use it in non-church related areas, but meh. That said, she still crazy as hell for plenty of other reasons, lol.

 

[Zeliard]

There is so much other stuff to call her on, I don't understand why the god issue is the one they insist on. But, I've seen enough religi-gaf threads to know that this is horribly important to this message board. Then again, if the dems cared about the election, they would leave religion alone and try to persuade voters, rather than ridiculing them.

People wonder why dems can't win... Maybe it has something to do with sticking their noses up at 2/3 of the country?

It has nothing to do with sticking your nose up at anyone. It's called motherfucking separation of church and state, a concept that Bush failed entirely to understand, and not a mistake we want to see repeated again. How is this so difficult to grasp? We don't want any more faith-based agendas.

 

[Funky Papa]

Jesus Christ, people, this woman could be the next President of the United States. I mean, she makes Bush look like a scholar.

 

[woxel1]

this whole country is fucked, we're fucked. i didn't watch my buddies die face down in the mud so this -

- fucking strumpet, this fucking whore...

 

[Trurl]

Jesus Christ, people, this woman could be the next President of the United States. I mean, she makes Bush look like a scholar.

Quick, somebody ask Bush what the Bush Doctrine is!

 

[harSon]

Meh,shes doing fine.

For someone who is completely clueless? Sure.

 

[VanMardigan]

The funniest part is that it also seemed to catch Gibson completely off guard that she had no clue.:lol

That was totally embarrassing. Totally. She is CLEARLY not as prepped as she needs to be for the debates. This was NOT the softball interview I was anticipating. :lol

McCain, Biden, and Obama would've had no issues fielding that question.

 

[Door2Dawn]

What the hell is up with all this hyperbole?

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

It has nothing to do with sticking your nose up at anyone. It's called motherfucking separation of church and state, a concept that Bush failed entirely to understand, and not a mistake we want to see repeated again. How is this so difficult to grasp?

It's called choosing your battles? Why not rattle off the legitimate complaints that you have about her that EVERYONE will agree with, rather than focusing on something that is just going to endear her to the entire red area of the country?

I understand that you're just venting--but it seems like dems are insistent on "protecting the poor middle americans from themselves" instead of really convincing them that we are all americans and deserve better leadership. It's just so divisive.

Edit: Also, don't claim that you understand the separation of church and state so wisely when the footage you're talking about is her in a CHURCH and not her making a policy decision...

 

[GhaleonEB]

Jesus Christ, people, this woman could be the next President of the United States. I mean, she makes Bush look like a scholar.

I've been quasi-serious before, but that is literally [/Biden] scary.

 

[Stinkles]

I guess that's why they're praying that they're following it, then, huh?

She is "State" right, and thus supposed to be operating separately from "Church?"
Right?

Or are you OK with the State taxing you to pay for what she believes to be an ostensibly religious enterprise?

I know your answer will be way more tortured than my question. But I had to ask.

 

[Pakkidis]

It doesn't scare me. She's not the most qualified, yeah, but she'll have enough people around her and she'll do what she has to do.

But with that logic then technically couldn't anybody be President and VP regardless of credentials?

 

[JayDubya]

Right there in her quote talking about our national leaders sending them out on a "task from G-d". And again I ask does G-d like killing? Does he want us fighting wars?

It's not a statement of fact.

It's a request to other members of a congregation to pray that the actions of American troops and leadership are guided by a higher wisdom that she so happens to believe in and that their presumed good intentions also result in good actions being done.


As someone who wants all American troops out of pretty much every other country out there, I certainly don't disagree with pulling out of Iraq ASAP. As someone who is an atheist, I don't pretend to understand the Christian perspective very well. But this Palin quote is horribly misrepresented.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Indefensible. Gibson actually had to explain to her what the Bush Doctrine is.

It's embarrassing even in print. On camera, with her visible confusion, it's even worse.

Well spill it. What did she say?

 

[The Blue Jihad]

It has nothing to do with sticking your nose up at anyone. It's called motherfucking separation of church and state, a concept that Bush failed entirely to understand, and not a mistake we want to see repeated again. How is this so difficult to grasp?

Exactly. I knew there was a reason why I liked Zeliard. And strangely, it had to do with more than just his stylish Fear and Loathing avatar. lol

What Zel just said here is precisely the big problem with any politicians coming out and talking about "God's plan." Because religion is based around absolutes, especially when it comes to morality and rules. Government principles guided by absolutes don't turn out well. We've seen this time and time again throughout history. And if anyone isn't too sharp on their global history, they can just look at the past 8 years to see what happens when absolutes guide government principles.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I've been quasi-serious before, but that is literally [/Biden] scary.

The scary thing isn't necessarily her lack of expertise on...anything, the scary thing is WHO would be teaching and molding her as she learned on the job.

 

[johnsmith]

Holy crap, she truly has NO FUCKING IDEA. Scroll down for the video.

Obama talked about energy independence on David Lettermen last night when Letterman asked him what he'd have done differently after 9/11. So that's not really a fair thing to attack her on.

 

[SnakeXs]

Well spill it. What did she say?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/sarah-palins-charlie-gibs_n_125772.html

Scroll down.

The first 7 seconds are fucking poetry in motion.

A wonderful fidget.

A stifled pause.

And she mutters the words.

"In what respect, Charlie?"

So good.

 

[teruterubozu]

What the hell is up with all this hyperbole?

Yeah, to us it's awful and LoLtastic, but I still see Republicans jumping up and cheering when she says shit like:

"I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation."

They love that shit.

 

[Shig]

Man, I really despise people who constantly repeat the name of the person they're talking to during a conversation. Especially in such a cutting, derogatory tone.