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PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts
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Been noticing a lot more Obama bumper stickers on the road during my commutes, lately... I live in an area that went slightly Democratic in both 2000 and 2004, where the Republicans around tend to be members from the upper middle class who thinks the Dems want to tax the hell out of them rather than the socially conservative religious right.
BenjaminBirdie
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Fatalah said:
I REEE-HEE-HEE-EAAALY wish I didn't have to wait that long for the bounce to subside.
I think it's pretty much gone in the trackers. Shouldn't be long before
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Frank the Great
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Fatalah said:
I REEE-HEE-HEE-EAAALY wish I didn't have to wait that long for the bounce to subside.
The bounce is gone already - most polls show it being dead even. The bounce lasted even shorted than Nate predicted.
And that's a GOOD thing!
Stoney Mason
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avatar299 said:
Russian spying secrets.
polyh3dron
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BACKLASH GETFatalah said:
I REEE-HEE-HEE-EAAALY wish I didn't have to wait that long for the bounce to subside.
New ARG polls are out:
AL 58% 36% 1% 5%
AK 55% 39% 2% 3%
AZ 56% 39% 1% 3%
CO 46% 44% 3% 7%
DE 40% 51% 1% 8%
DC 13% 82% - 4%
HI 32% 63% 2% 4%
ID 68% 25% - 6%
IL 45% 51% 1% 4%
KS 63% 31% - 6%
KY 57% 37% 1% 5%
LA 50% 43% 1% 6%
ME 41% 51% - 8%
MS 55% 39% 1% 5%
MO 50% 45% - 5%
MT 49% 47% 1% 4%
NV 49% 46% - 5%
NM 44% 51% - 5%
NY 38% 55% 2% 5%
NC 52% 41% 1% 6%
OH 50% 44% - 6%
RI 33% 59% - 8%
TX 57% 36% 1% 6%
UT 65% 29% - 6%
WV 49% 45% - 7%
WY 66% 28% - 5%
in terms of swing states McCain ahead in OH, NV, and CO, Obama ahead in NM.
AL 58% 36% 1% 5%
AK 55% 39% 2% 3%
AZ 56% 39% 1% 3%
CO 46% 44% 3% 7%
DE 40% 51% 1% 8%
DC 13% 82% - 4%
HI 32% 63% 2% 4%
ID 68% 25% - 6%
IL 45% 51% 1% 4%
KS 63% 31% - 6%
KY 57% 37% 1% 5%
LA 50% 43% 1% 6%
ME 41% 51% - 8%
MS 55% 39% 1% 5%
MO 50% 45% - 5%
MT 49% 47% 1% 4%
NV 49% 46% - 5%
NM 44% 51% - 5%
NY 38% 55% 2% 5%
NC 52% 41% 1% 6%
OH 50% 44% - 6%
RI 33% 59% - 8%
TX 57% 36% 1% 6%
UT 65% 29% - 6%
WV 49% 45% - 7%
WY 66% 28% - 5%
in terms of swing states McCain ahead in OH, NV, and CO, Obama ahead in NM.
Crayon Shinchan
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Fatalah said:Yeah, but what if McCain's numbers are still being pushed by the bounce?
Hahaha... yes. Would be awesome.
Frank the Great
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Cheebs said:
West Virginia, Montana, and Missouri are all surprisingly close.
Sucks that Obama's behind in the normal toss-ups though (NM isn't a toss-up.)
TheKingsCrown
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Keep it close, and you keep the profits close.somedevil said:
It's amazing how some of you still take every single poll seriously
You can get Diageo results early by changing the date of their daily image
http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/media/charts/20080917-1.gif
45-42 today
e: and they just happened to update
You can get Diageo results early by changing the date of their daily image
http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/media/charts/20080917-1.gif
45-42 today
e: and they just happened to update
Xisiqomelir
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syllogism said:
Let's call up TDG and Incognito and form a club. We can call ourselves the Skepsephologists.
Heh, the xkcd guy reads fivethirtyeight.com:
http://www.xkcd.com/477/
http://www.xkcd.com/477/
The Lamonster
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god when is this stupid fucking election going to end, I'm so sick of this rollercoaster bullshit. People are so easily swayed.Cheebs said:Their economy numbers had a very odd shift today:
The Lamonster said:
wow he looks alot like a baldwin brother in this picture
ryutaro's mama
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Bu-bu-bu-but it wasn't pandering...McCain selected Palin based SOLELY on her qualifications....
James Power
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The Lamonster said:
Fuck, DeNiro is dead to me, dead! What fucking change is he yearning for? Better movie roles?
Has this been posted?
David Plouffe's new strategy video
Obviously some states are now out of play, like Alaska.
David Plouffe's new strategy video
Obviously some states are now out of play, like Alaska.
Xisiqomelir
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ryutaro's mama said:
We will also note that the McSame campaign quietly ignores the 2 main NOW points about reproductive choice and equal pay. Fortunately for JSA & Co, Johnny Average is happy to accept what he's told with no questions or verification.
The Lamonster
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That is the equivalent of crying during a fist fight. I just love that they're "extremely disappointed." Suck it, jerks!ryutaro's mama said:
I wonder if they use one day sample for their issue performance tracking, they seem to fluctuate wildly except for the national security one.Cheebs said:
e: seems unlikely but it is curious
e2: actually yes, their sample size seems to be smaller
N=443 / MARGIN OF ERROR=+/- 4.7%]
The Lamonster
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For some reason I doubt you even fucking watched the video.James Power said:
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polyh3dron
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oh wow Anon delivered.ronito said:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed146.html
From Out of a Rotting Log
by Fred Reed
Just dragged my scrawny carcass in from Washington, the heart of darkness, with the usual sense usual now of having visited an asylum. I figure Salvador Dali designed the government. Or maybe Ionesco or Someone deeply twisted with a sick sense of humor.
In the airports, the same obedience training take off your shoes, belt, watch, fillings, prostate, so we can to learn to respect the authority of low-IQ federalized renta-cops with the psyches of school-yard bullies. God save us from the congenitally unimportant. From PA systems came the same pointless security-babble having nothing to do with security, in the same over elocuted I-wanna-lick-the-microphone female voices. Well, its not quite pointless. We must condition the rubes, give them an inspiriting sense of danger so they will do as they are told. Its awful. Im going to apply for a change of phylum.
It got worse. I discovered that America is about to have an election. Why? Every time they do that, no good comes of it. Youd think theyd learn.
Ass usual, the election is a popularity contest run for dimwits. And to elect a dimwit, which is worse. Weve got this woman Palin, an angry Betty Crocker, absolutely unqualified for the presidency in case McCain goes tits up. Shes ignorant of foreign affairs, at best moderately bright, a whackjob Christian, and a pit bull. This is said admiringly.
Oh good. An aggressive ignorant dull-witted-pit bull. How is that better than a passive ignorant torpid pit bull?
Oh god, McCain. A senescent replica of Bush who says he wants to stay in Iraq a hundred years. Actually, the idea has its appeal. Why doesnt he go there and get a start? A perfect match for Palin, another pugnacious dunce, bottom of his class in boat school the Naval Academy, I mean. He says he plans to confront Russia. Now theres a plan. It seems that American policy is to make enemies of everyone who has oil or nuclear weapons. Or doesnt.
Meanwhile the Pentagon prepares for war with China. Is it something in the water?
Next we have Obama, whose only qualification is that hes maybe a tad less bellicose than the rest of these Oprah Neanderthals. His veep, Biden, is a grey nonentity, a cipher with no characteristics. Well, thats better than the other three. I mean, hes as close to no candidate as we can come.
What are we doing? The country has gone nuts. If a giant squirrel began collecting us and storing us for winter, Id understand. Three hundred million people, and these factory rejects the best we can do?
Actually, I do understand it, barely. The undergirding of American politics is the seldom-stated but always audible cry of You aint no goodern me! We have government by inferiority complex. The last thing the great burger-chomping, reality-show-watching mental vacuum out there wants is anyone who might make reglar folks feel inferior. The cloth of the country is woven of resentment. The public wants a regular guy, comfortingly stupid, who watches NASCAR and in broken English as if recently concussed. Few would select a cardiac surgeon from a bus station, but its how we do presidents.
You probably can get elected holding a chain saw and a severed head, but not if you know words of three syllables.
Its getting scary. The more angry and miserable things get at home, the more people want to smack hell out of someone. It doesnt matter who. The American attitude toward the world is, Not only can I lick anybody in this bar, but I can lick all of you at once. Before I said that, Id want to be real sure who was in the bar.
At least two of these gong-show dregs, Palin and Bush, blame their personality disorders on God. Yes. They think God wants them to blow hell out of more or less everybody. Were talking wars of religion, boys and girls. Christian loons in the US, Jewish loons in Israel, and Moslem loons widely distributed, all wanting to blow people up because God told them. I want a signed affidavit from God. Or a drink. Whatever happened to grownups?
I babble, but its hard to think straight when contemplating nuclear-armed kindergarteners. In Washington, I saw about ten friends, many of them biochemists, lawyers, programmers, freelance screwballs, what have you. Sitting at the Zoo Bar one night (so called because its across Connecticut Avenue from the zoo, not because of its clientele) a dismal epiphany struck me, kersplat, like a sock full of hog kidneys:
I dont know anybody who isnt better qualified to be president than anyone who is or is about to be.
Of the ten friends I mentioned, the baseline IQ is close to 140 and goes up, often lots up. All of them are well read and many have spent a lot of time overseas. All speak and write good English and, some of them, foreign languages. They arent geniuses, just upper-middle-brow. But they are way better than the rabble running for the White House.
I dont get it. For president, I want somebody lots brighter than I am, who knows history, who speaks a few languages, maybe spent time in the military without being an officer and therefore a warped buzz-cut Boy Scout. They exist. I have friends who knew where South Ossetia was twenty years ago, and why, who know the military and military history and what works and what doesnt and why. Im not like that. Not smart enough. But they are. Yet we get candidates who could probably run a small-town hardware store. Reglar folks, though.
Democracy is a bad idea, I tell you. Granted, weve never really tried it. From Jefferson to our current bumbling mutant, the trick has been to let people think they have power without really trusting them with it. For a long time we had rule by a high-WASP elite that actually had some sense of noblesse oblige, tempered by sufficient corruption to keep them in gravy. The Roosevelts for example. You can disagree with their policies, but they werent penny-ante pickpocket proles with learning disabilities.
Today we get grasping zeros who would embarrass a trailer park in Arkansas. Ah, but they are of the people, and dont make anyone feel inadequate. In everything that counts, which means involving money, we have rule by corporations, through legalized corruption far more lucrative than Latin America could dream of.
I have a theory that countries deserve what they get, at least when its internally generated. Belgium didnt deserve to be overrun by Germany, but Belgium didnt elect Hitler. Its going to be a funny eight years.
September 17, 2008
Fred Reed is author of Nekkid in Austin: Drop Your Inner Child Down a Well and the just-published A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Be. Visit his blog.
Copyright © 2008 Fred Reed
From Out of a Rotting Log
by Fred Reed
Just dragged my scrawny carcass in from Washington, the heart of darkness, with the usual sense usual now of having visited an asylum. I figure Salvador Dali designed the government. Or maybe Ionesco or Someone deeply twisted with a sick sense of humor.
In the airports, the same obedience training take off your shoes, belt, watch, fillings, prostate, so we can to learn to respect the authority of low-IQ federalized renta-cops with the psyches of school-yard bullies. God save us from the congenitally unimportant. From PA systems came the same pointless security-babble having nothing to do with security, in the same over elocuted I-wanna-lick-the-microphone female voices. Well, its not quite pointless. We must condition the rubes, give them an inspiriting sense of danger so they will do as they are told. Its awful. Im going to apply for a change of phylum.
It got worse. I discovered that America is about to have an election. Why? Every time they do that, no good comes of it. Youd think theyd learn.
Ass usual, the election is a popularity contest run for dimwits. And to elect a dimwit, which is worse. Weve got this woman Palin, an angry Betty Crocker, absolutely unqualified for the presidency in case McCain goes tits up. Shes ignorant of foreign affairs, at best moderately bright, a whackjob Christian, and a pit bull. This is said admiringly.
Oh good. An aggressive ignorant dull-witted-pit bull. How is that better than a passive ignorant torpid pit bull?
Oh god, McCain. A senescent replica of Bush who says he wants to stay in Iraq a hundred years. Actually, the idea has its appeal. Why doesnt he go there and get a start? A perfect match for Palin, another pugnacious dunce, bottom of his class in boat school the Naval Academy, I mean. He says he plans to confront Russia. Now theres a plan. It seems that American policy is to make enemies of everyone who has oil or nuclear weapons. Or doesnt.
Meanwhile the Pentagon prepares for war with China. Is it something in the water?
Next we have Obama, whose only qualification is that hes maybe a tad less bellicose than the rest of these Oprah Neanderthals. His veep, Biden, is a grey nonentity, a cipher with no characteristics. Well, thats better than the other three. I mean, hes as close to no candidate as we can come.
What are we doing? The country has gone nuts. If a giant squirrel began collecting us and storing us for winter, Id understand. Three hundred million people, and these factory rejects the best we can do?
Actually, I do understand it, barely. The undergirding of American politics is the seldom-stated but always audible cry of You aint no goodern me! We have government by inferiority complex. The last thing the great burger-chomping, reality-show-watching mental vacuum out there wants is anyone who might make reglar folks feel inferior. The cloth of the country is woven of resentment. The public wants a regular guy, comfortingly stupid, who watches NASCAR and in broken English as if recently concussed. Few would select a cardiac surgeon from a bus station, but its how we do presidents.
You probably can get elected holding a chain saw and a severed head, but not if you know words of three syllables.
Its getting scary. The more angry and miserable things get at home, the more people want to smack hell out of someone. It doesnt matter who. The American attitude toward the world is, Not only can I lick anybody in this bar, but I can lick all of you at once. Before I said that, Id want to be real sure who was in the bar.
At least two of these gong-show dregs, Palin and Bush, blame their personality disorders on God. Yes. They think God wants them to blow hell out of more or less everybody. Were talking wars of religion, boys and girls. Christian loons in the US, Jewish loons in Israel, and Moslem loons widely distributed, all wanting to blow people up because God told them. I want a signed affidavit from God. Or a drink. Whatever happened to grownups?
I babble, but its hard to think straight when contemplating nuclear-armed kindergarteners. In Washington, I saw about ten friends, many of them biochemists, lawyers, programmers, freelance screwballs, what have you. Sitting at the Zoo Bar one night (so called because its across Connecticut Avenue from the zoo, not because of its clientele) a dismal epiphany struck me, kersplat, like a sock full of hog kidneys:
I dont know anybody who isnt better qualified to be president than anyone who is or is about to be.
Of the ten friends I mentioned, the baseline IQ is close to 140 and goes up, often lots up. All of them are well read and many have spent a lot of time overseas. All speak and write good English and, some of them, foreign languages. They arent geniuses, just upper-middle-brow. But they are way better than the rabble running for the White House.
I dont get it. For president, I want somebody lots brighter than I am, who knows history, who speaks a few languages, maybe spent time in the military without being an officer and therefore a warped buzz-cut Boy Scout. They exist. I have friends who knew where South Ossetia was twenty years ago, and why, who know the military and military history and what works and what doesnt and why. Im not like that. Not smart enough. But they are. Yet we get candidates who could probably run a small-town hardware store. Reglar folks, though.
Democracy is a bad idea, I tell you. Granted, weve never really tried it. From Jefferson to our current bumbling mutant, the trick has been to let people think they have power without really trusting them with it. For a long time we had rule by a high-WASP elite that actually had some sense of noblesse oblige, tempered by sufficient corruption to keep them in gravy. The Roosevelts for example. You can disagree with their policies, but they werent penny-ante pickpocket proles with learning disabilities.
Today we get grasping zeros who would embarrass a trailer park in Arkansas. Ah, but they are of the people, and dont make anyone feel inadequate. In everything that counts, which means involving money, we have rule by corporations, through legalized corruption far more lucrative than Latin America could dream of.
I have a theory that countries deserve what they get, at least when its internally generated. Belgium didnt deserve to be overrun by Germany, but Belgium didnt elect Hitler. Its going to be a funny eight years.
September 17, 2008
Fred Reed is author of Nekkid in Austin: Drop Your Inner Child Down a Well and the just-published A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Be. Visit his blog.
Copyright © 2008 Fred Reed
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