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I think the mods call it ban-ter

... nothing?
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Sucks it came to this, but less politics in general is probably a good move for everybody. There's nothing really healthy about spending that much time in those kinds of discussions (I say with a bit of hypocrisy since I did frequent the politics section).

EviLore EviLore I am curious though, how this will effect things like the Jordan Peterson Podcast thread, are we still allowed to discuss current events in a thread about a podcast that references said events? Or are we strictly never to have these sorts of discussions in any context going forward?
I don't want to speak for EviLore EviLore but I'm pretty sure the Jordan Peterson thread is safe so long as we can keep the discussions civil. He has plenty of non political view points to talk about.
 
Most of the names I see here saying good riddance I never saw in the forum.

There was some healthy and unhealthy convo's there. I don't like it being removed but I understand the few crazies made it a liability.
 
I understand why people would want to discuss politics. It is only natural. Especially when companies are inserting politics into everything.

But at that point, do we even need a politics section? Just talk about Sony's messaging in a thread about that.

Ultimately, I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to be sinking a ton of resources into babysitting a bunch of people flinging insults back and forth.
 
Ah, I can see why my blatantly sarcastic remark in the Jim Ryan thread was deleted with an ultra snarky admin message.

Fair enough, I suppose. I was worried admin were moving back to the 'bad old' days, but this reassures me somewhat.
 
A more equal compromise:

Since gaming is unfortunately highly politicized now (and that's not a good thing), if we're going to avoid political discussion here in order to be a purer gaming forum as it once was... there should also be a total ban on posting anything about games which carry political messages.

In other words, if the gamers must be voluntarily gagged from discussing politics, in order to restore the fun of the medium, then let's also gag from mention all games where the developers are pushing a political message. Those devs and games won't exist here.
 
Yep, I'm not an active contributor because English isn't my first language and I feel like I can't express myself as well as I should, but I liked lurking at a mostly US political forum that, on one hand, didn't ban conservative opinions right away and, on the other hand, recently did a good job of getting rid of the craziest righ-wing conspiracy theories. I guess it became either too difficult for the owners to be associated with the mostly right wing opinions expressed on it or the moderating (which was very good) became too much of a chore. A loss, really.
Yes it got a lot less crazy after the banning but I can see how it must have been hard to moderate still.
 
A more equal compromise:

Since gaming is unfortunately highly politicized now (and that's not a good thing), if we're going to avoid political discussion here in order to be a purer gaming forum as it once was... there should also be a total ban on posting anything about games which carry political messages.

In other words, if the gamers must be voluntarily gagged from discussing politics, in order to restore the fun of the medium, then let's also gag from mention all games where the developers are pushing a political message. Those devs and games won't exist here.
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It was a source of major friction and drama within the community. It was attracting the wrong type of people to GAF, and pushing away the right type of people. It was a nightmare to moderate. It was frequently an embarrassment to be associated with.

It's gone.
Hard decision I think a good decision
 
Thank God.

Good decision EviLore EviLore

Curious where you draw the line though on stuff like constant whining about SJW this or that though.

The gaming forum goes out of it's way to bring it into everything lol

I see people are already harping on that in here lol... Having diversity = A POLITICAL MESSAGE... having trans characters = A POLITICAL MESSAGE

It's not politics.. it's.. humanity.
 
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I'm bummed to see it go. It was actually one of the only places on the internet to engage with opposing viewpoints in a non toxic manner (for the most part.)

I also enjoyed seeing how much I had in common in other parts of the forum with people that I have diametrically opposed political views with.

Disagree with the nuke, but I guess in this age we just can't have nice things because some asshats want to ruin it for everything.
 
I enjoyed the politics forum. The moderation recently was very good with being unbiased but also removing blatantly fringe/extremist opinions. Though I'm sure it was a lot of work.

Oh well RIP. So to be clear no gaming-related political discussion in the main forum?
 
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I don't think anyone can disagree that Politics had veered away from the middle a while ago. This was probably for the best.
 
I can understand it being a headache to moderate, but if users were getting angry or upset or triggered by visiting the politics forum they certainly didn't need to keep going back to get angry or upset or triggered again and again. I see so many "good riddance" responses here, and I'm wondering why? If you didn't like the vibe there you didn't have to go. It's almost like the decision was made in part to protect the stupid kids and snowflakes from themselves.

Not gonna say the mods here are cowards because I certainly wouldn't volunteer for the headache of trying to keep the politics page civil, but I am disappointed. I think this might just disperse the shit-show to the other forums instead of keeping it relatively contained.


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You know what?

Good call.

It is the place I peaked at the most ngl, but these days, it feels like any kind of political discussion is, by nature, heated and hostile.
 
i've noticed myself getting angrier and angrier as more and more articles are posted.... it's a good thing to take a break from all the toxicity.. however, we are all adults and the point of a separate forum was to keep it out of the other forums.. people like their politics..

i enjoyed sparring with Nobody_Important Nobody_Important .. hopefully he's interested in things besides politics
without a dedicated forum, it will be tough to keep it out of other threads.

i'm sure it was tough to moderate but im not so sure this will make the mods life easier.. at least all the toxicity was kept in one place
 
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A more equal compromise:

Since gaming is unfortunately highly politicized now (and that's not a good thing), if we're going to avoid political discussion here in order to be a purer gaming forum as it once was... there should also be a total ban on posting anything about games which carry political messages.

In other words, if the gamers must be voluntarily gagged from discussing politics, in order to restore the fun of the medium, then let's also gag from mention all games where the developers are pushing a political message. Those devs and games won't exist here.
That is a bit REEEEEEE xD
 
I do wonder what the politics only members of this board will do now. We had a number of them on either side of the aisle. Are you guys going to stick around?
 
You know what?

Good call.

It is the place I peaked at the most ngl, but these days, it feels like any kind of political discussion is, by nature, heated and hostile.

That's probably because everyone is fairly entrenched in their positions and not exactly willing to let their minds be changed. So many arguments and discussions have been distilled throughout the years. Nuance is also difficult to relay, in any medium.
 
Probably for the best. Problem is though, politics bleed into just about everything in modern culture. I'm not sure deleting the forum eliminates the issue.
 
I don't need people yelling at each other everyday that the other side is going to destroy the country or whatever. It's just exhausting.

How would it exhaust you to simply ignore the politics forum? Hilarious to see people complain about not liking stuff they have to opt-in to in the first place.

As for the decision to remove the forum itself that's easily understood. Very little reward for potentially unlimited risk in America's current political climate.
 
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That is a bit REEEEEEE xD

I don't favor it, but the point is that there's little ability to avoid a situation now where games themselves are increasingly politicized, but somehow we'll have a "gaming forum" which has to pretend to ignore that and just consume, and go along for the ride uncritically. That isn't exactly sustainable.
 
literally checking out the ban page thread and clicking on post to see what those heathens said only for it to lead to politics forum which leads to an invalid link


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Great move by the mods. I respect it.

I guess it really is. We have a standing rule not to discuss politics in our house, especially when the in laws are around. It saves a lot of grief. And if they try to bring it up we shut them down immediately.
 
That section was getting radicalized on the right, rather than being a middle ground where thoughts and ideas could be evenly measured.
I'm sorry you find some ideas dangerous. I for one enjoyed seeing Neogaf begin to understand natural law and conservative values. and not tolerate bullies.
Sucks it came to this, but less politics in general is probably a good move for everybody. There's nothing really healthy about spending that much time in those kinds of discussions (I say with a bit of hypocrisy since I did frequent the politics section).
that could be said about the other sections of the forum....and the hobby of video games in general.
 
had era flashbacks where one day you would open the website and discoveer you got banned for..something

I admit i lurked there quite a lot recently even though my views didn't coincide with the more active part of its userbase.

anyway, the world goes on
 
I'm a bit confused. Can the mods not moderate the political content?

Also how is politics worse now (on GAF) than after Trump won the election in 2016?

How are you going to separate politics from literally anything these days?

What "type of people" were so bad the entire section had to be shut down?
 
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So people who say that X game is 'too woke to pander to the SJWs' are going to be banned for making the conversation political? Or is it not considered a political statement to notice that a game is leaning towards a particular political ideology?
Honestly people complaining about games being "woke" and "political" tend to bring up politics 10x as much as the games do. It's fine at a base level but some use it as an opportunity to rant about their own ideology, and how much they hate other ones.
 
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Yep. If you can politicise these threads then god help you. Don't you fucking dare though I won't stand for losing those threads
 
I've lurked at gaf for years and really enjoyed the change in direction of the forum after the exodus a few years ago. I learned a lot from that forum and used it as a news source more than anything. It was much milder there than just about anywhere else I've seen politics discussion online.

Im sad to see it go. Admittedly I posted there more than any other forum, but I have always lurked in gaming. Since politics convinced me to actively sign up and post I guess I'll post in the games section now more.
 
Here guys. You can thank me later.


I can only kill 10-30 minutes a day there depending how backed up I am
 
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