Poll: Clinton's lead over Sanders grows (CNN)
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what is this, my father in 1998?
Butts-a-plenty
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Yeah she probably gets donations from M$ too.
Big Green Anus
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Obama is likely going to endorse Hillary, which would solidify her leads with minorities. I don't see any chances of Bernie winning, which is unfortunate.
Socialist, Hillary is the shill.
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Polls are fairy dust.
Butts-a-plenty
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Sitting Presidents don't usually endorse any particular candidate during the primary.
I'm having election day flashbacks.
Butts-a-plenty
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He won't need to. Bernie won't win a single state.
The Abominable Snowman
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I'm honestly not surprised. I never bought into the hype that Sanders is gaining on HillDawg. I like the things Sanders says, but something about him is unnerving. He definitely needs to work on being personable. I'm definitely more apt to agree with him than Hillary, and I don't like political dynasties, but I don't see Clinton losing to him.
oh, well in that case poor execution
you changed the subject, and I can't read you're mind
Horseshoe theory in action.
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I will grant you that. Was mostly fishing for the reply you made.
Pocky4Th3Win
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Wasn't Clinton destroying Obama early on? I think we should wait for after the debate.
I just hope that if Biden doesn't run he backs Sanders, His backing will give any candidate a huge boost.
I just hope that if Biden doesn't run he backs Sanders, His backing will give any candidate a huge boost.
Butts-a-plenty
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I see discussing reality is now classified as shitting on Bernie.
Aaron Strife
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Also Bill.
The GOP nominee has no one. Two Bushes, one a decent president with that one-term stank and one an abject failure.
Guess they'll just be hobnobbing Reagan the whole time like usual.
This myth shows up every time.Pocky4Th3Win said:
No, Clinton was never "destroying" Obama. Obama was always viewed as a legitimate candidate by the Democratic establishment and there was never an insurmountable distance between he and Clinton.
I'm supporting Sanders but I don't think he'll win and I do not think this is the same as Obama's campaign in 2008.
legacyzero
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oooh Bernnnn
Electorally? Vermont isn't a swing state and liberals are still going to vote for whomever the Democratic candidate is. She's much more likely to pick one of the Virginia senators, or someone from Colorado. Or Julian Castro.
It's not so much shitting on Bernie... It's just that the enthusiasm exhibited by youth and the internet doesn't translate in the polls... They just don't get out and vote like they should.
A lot of people like what Bernie has to say and all, but just realistically looking at things, he has no chance in the general election against Bush or Rubio due to the skewed aged of the voting population, even if more youth voters actually get out during a general election than a midterm.
If he wants to win, he is going to have to use every tactic Obama used and them some to rally the latino, black, youth, and women vote in his favor or else risk losing to the GOP.
Obama had a lot of people urging him into the race.
This time, ranks have closed around Clinton.
Ignatz Mouse
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I'm missing the shitting part. The worst thing I read is criticizing somebody who will vote Green instead.
I don't understand this logic. Hillary will still have to campaign against a Republican eventually. Why would they want to settle for a candidate in whose speaking ability and general likeability they have little faith in? Why wouldn't they want to encourage a wider field of contenders to try to find the best possible candidate?
vas_a_morir
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Without talking specifically about any one candidate or political party, I do not place much faith in young voters. I was one not so long ago. Young voters vote how they vote because they think they have nothing to lose should things be drastically changed and they rarely consider the lives of the unseen private individuals affected... but perhaps the most naive thing young voters believe is that their candidate of choice will actually change things as they promise, when they never do. All candidates owe a tremendous debt, and they must pay what they owe.
mightynine
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Used by someone in the Trump rally where the guy said Obama is a Muslim. Thanks Rush listeners who think they thought of it on their own!
I only ask that her oligarchical risk isn't too bad.
Her win seems inevitable, and even so, I feel greatly uneased about her. We have a big problem with big money, and I don't even see her sincerely trying to address that. At least Sanders says "lolno" even if it bites him and drowns him, for the risk of assimilating to the way the game is rigged only seems to propose the rigging stays. And of course, one person cannot do a thing alone.
At least she's better than the entirety of the other party in our binary game of checkers..right?
Her win seems inevitable, and even so, I feel greatly uneased about her. We have a big problem with big money, and I don't even see her sincerely trying to address that. At least Sanders says "lolno" even if it bites him and drowns him, for the risk of assimilating to the way the game is rigged only seems to propose the rigging stays. And of course, one person cannot do a thing alone.
At least she's better than the entirety of the other party in our binary game of checkers..right?
Pocky4Th3Win
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In January 07, She held a 17 point lead. In June it closed to 10 points with October it widening to 26 points. Not until the following year (election year) did he start closing in really close to her to overcome her numbers.
So yeah, She was the sure the nominee for a while like now... Lets wait till the debate, I think it will be a fun show to watch.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html
exmachina64
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You are completely tin-foil-hatting this.
Mushroomer25
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Because they know a slam dunk when they see one. Any other Democratic candidate realized Clinton was an unbeatable force ages ago. Leaving only independent politicians like Bernie to campaign for the Democratic nomination against her.
Dice
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She will help destroy the world partially to our gain.
Republicans will destroy the world and ourselves.
Also consider how independants are kind of disqualified from major runs such as this. It's more than Bernie jumping on that ticket to be a threat, but a larger issue that our system is just too binary, too either/or. It's one of the greatest failings of our political system.
We're kind of guarenteed to destroy this world, at this point. Not even Sanders could change that.
You need a global revolution to the status quo. You're lucky to get a national one.
Bernie's not a democrat. Every other democrat in the race has 1% or less in the polls. The number of debates isn't the problem, it's the timing of themthe first debate is probably too late, given how early the Republican debates have been and how successful they've been at sucking up all the media oxygen.
Byakuya769
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"Teach me how to Dougie." - Bernie Sanders.
Aaron Strife
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The problem is you're treating 08 as a two-person race. That RCP chart is leaving out Edwards who split Obama's base. You might say the same for Biden but the bulk of his support goes to Hillary.
shaowebb
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Bernie is the better candidate, but I get the feeling Hillary would stand a better chance of winning the Presidency if it really turns out that Trump ends up on the Republican card as their candidate. Trump would shoot himself apart vs Hillary with his comments on looks and other shit and be his own worst enemy. No way would he not make an ass of himself vs her.
Ignatz Mouse
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Bernie is accomplishing what he intended to. I'm sure he has always thought he might win, but I am also sure his goal was to influence the discussion just as much.
He's not a power-hungry guy. The fact that he's pushed Hilary to support a lot of the same issues more publicly is already a win.
He's not a power-hungry guy. The fact that he's pushed Hilary to support a lot of the same issues more publicly is already a win.
brianmcdoogle
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Yup. I think people retroactively think Edwards was barely a candidate because of the fallout afterwards regarding his personal life, but 08 was not a two person race, it was a three person race, and he took away votes from Obama.
Honestly, for some voters who are on this forum and probably are really for Bernie, maybe they are just young and were in grade/middle school during the '08 campaign and didn't pay attention to what was going on at the time.
Dice
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Aye. A global peaceful, self-sacrificing revolution at that. But we'll reap the harvest of the seeds we've been sowing all this time.
brianmcdoogle
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Look at that chart showing the Clinton v Obama numbers, look when it flipped to Obama's support, and then read this:
People forget, maybe because they were young or not paying attention to it at the time, but the Democratic race in 08 was a three person race, not 2, and Edwards took votes from Obama.
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