Polygon COD: Ghosts Review update: (XBONE better version)

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Einbroch said:
Uh, since forever. Games, especially early in the generation, had different PS3/360 scores. It happened all thet ime.

Also, because the reviewer thinks that the framerate is more important than the resolution.

What is the huge issue here?
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So PC should have a 7.0 as well, no?
 
Rather amusing that a lot of the posts in this thread seem to allude to polygon flat out lying about the framerate. Also the accusations that they were paid off by Microsoft to lie about it no less. If the Xbox one has the best frame rate it's clearly the one to buy if you're given the option.
 
Nymphae said:
He called out a gaffer for claiming he said "secret sauce", told him he would paypal him $10 if he could find any example of him saying it in writing. The gaffer responded with a quote showing exactly that, and Gies took his ball and went home.

I'm still wondering about this, my question was buried quickly:



Is this documented anywhere?
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senador said:
I know who you are and I appreciate your recent coverage, but if you haven't seen them then you don't have much say in perceived differences between the 2. A Steam library is not qualification. TV, couch, and distance also comes into play here. I don't doubt that there isn't a difference, but that's not what he said. He said he can't see a difference. That isn't a crazy thing to say.

Even if you had, 1 guy is saying he can't see a difference. That isn't "fucking absurd" or whatever you said. This also isn't bias. Man you guys are so hard up on this shit.
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Oh lawd, let the memes begin lol.
 
Haha is this why GAF was down earlier on?
Sad though that people seem more interested in XBone vs PS4 comparison rather than knowing if the game is genuinely good or not.
 
coldfoot said:
Holy shit look at that review! "Can't tell 720p from 1080p unless there's a gun to my head?" How is Polygon even respected and not belong to the same shit tier as xx420xxgames.com?
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If he can't tell 720p from 1080p with a gun to his head, he should save himself some money and downgrade his TV. No need for an HDTV if he can't tell the difference.
 
Lord Error said:
Did anyone see this?

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/11/12/call-of-duty-ghosts-xbox-one-comparison-video/

Take a look at PNGs. There's almost no difference in resolution between XB1 and PS4 from what I can tell. They actually both kind of look like they're 900p.

I mean there's no way in hell this is 1080p: http://ghosts-comparison.s3.amazonaws.com/Drop-PS4.png
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I noticed that in watching comparison videos between versions, there seemed to be no resolution difference when switching between versions. Some weird stuff going on.
 
plagiarize said:
Some of your facts are off base here. BF4 is 720p on Xbox One, it is 900p on PS4. You don't lowball your native resolution just for giggles, then add more frosting on top of it. They went down to 720p because they had to.

Maybe they'd have been better going down to 900p on PS4 to maintain a framerate advantage (as PS4 had over Xbox One on BF4)... but we'll need to see just how often it drops compared to the Xbox One version to see how big an issue we're talking about.

I'd be very careful calling the PS4 versions framedrops a big problem until we know how bad it is. Certainly not if you were planning on defending Dead Rising 3 in that area.
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Oops, yea my mistake on the resolution. Either way, 1080p to 720p is a much bigger drop than 900p to 720p, that was my point.
 
Style Fox said:
Take a look at the twitter of the guy who runs the site and remember the 700k they got from Microsoft. If you like them you must love Fox News for their balanced and unbiased coverage.

BF4 had better framerate and a higher a resolution on PS4, where's the higher score?
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And THAT will be the thing that people will slowly come to realize as more critical eyes fall on Polygon.
 
not sure what the uproar is for. Games are about playing them. if one plays better than the other that should be the issue. The issue should not be if one's pixels look a little better than the other pixels look.
 
kyo27 said:
Xbox One vs PS4 is a big deal on this forum.
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I have been tainted beyond belief by all this console warz bullshit, takes me 200 fucking minutes to purchase a game because I have fallen victim to fucking graphics comparison and miniature detail picking. i used to be a virgin before I came here.
 
Holy shit the pro sony biast is strong today....there are multiple sites confirming the same issue but we get....
# the site got bribed by ms
# the site should be discredited
# we believe one site over 10 because they say the ps4 version is better
# who needs a stable framerate...its easier to kill people when its a slide show in 1080p
# the game is shit so it does not count

loving the responses so far
 
tbm24 said:
Rather amusing that a lot of the posts in this thread seem to allude to polygon flat out lying about the framerate. Also the accusations that they were paid off by Microsoft to lie about it no less. If the Xbox one has the best frame rate it's clearly the one to buy if you're given the option.
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I think you are missing the point.
I do not think anything gives a shit about the frame rate.
It is the fact that they can not tell the difference between the two versions that people are calling them on their bullshit
 
So, Ghosts didn't fare well as a game.... 7.0 is the lowest I've seen for a CoD game.

But, back to the thread - I guess it's going to be framerate or resolution. Those more concerned about framerate go the XB1 while those more concerned with resolution will go PS4. Looks like each has their pros and cons.

But, I would imagine an FPS game, especially in MP, framerate will be of much more concern.
 
TheKayle said:
you should advice naughty dog of this...
the order will be 800p
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captainraincoat said:
Holy shit you sony ponies are unbelievable. ...there are multiple sites confirming the same issue but we get....
# the site got bribed by ms
# the site should be discredited
# we believe one site over 10 because they say the ps4 version is better
# who needs a stable framerate...its easier to kill people when its a slide show in 1080p
# the game is shit so it does not count

loving the responses so far
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dark10x said:
Again, it's not upscaled. THAT is the point and has been all along. The image quality does not suffer as a result of running at 1920x800.

Surely you can understand that.
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sure i understand what u mean so

you telling me that games that arent natively 1080p on ps4 wil not be upscaled?
 
Well, PS4 is not 100 percent more powerful than an X1. So, for a game with performance issues, it's expected.

PS4 is rendering more than twice the number of pixels natively at the end of the day.
 
Cool so I hope Polygon is prepared to review all PS4 multiplatform games that perform better with a higher score in the future. Maybe he forgot to do that with Battlefield 4, but I trust Polygon to not forget with future titles.
 
captainraincoat said:
Holy shit you sony ponies are unbelievable. ...there are multiple sites confirming the same issue but we get....
# the site got bribed by ms
# the site should be discredited
# we believe one site over 10 because they say the ps4 version is better
# who needs a stable framerate...its easier to kill people when its a slide show in 1080p
# the game is shit so it does not count

loving the responses so far
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You might not want to have done that...
 
have other media reported on frame drops on the ps4 version? I seem to recall something from the review thread, but I'm not sure.
 
wsoxfan1214 said:
Do you want to acknowledge my post instead of pretending it doesn't exist because it's too difficult to dismiss?
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I didn't see your post sorry.

wsoxfan1214 said:
Microsoft gave Polygon 700k and they accepted it. That is against the code of ethics that almost every journalist has hammered in their head from college onwards and it is an absolute joke. You never accept money from companies. Especially not when you'll be reviewing their products.

Excuse me for questioning their objectivity and credibility is journalists on this subject. Especially when those outlets who haven't accepted money from Microsoft are all saying otherwise.
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Totally question them for sure, but I do think it is completely ridiculous to claim "oh, polygon" due to this. I haven't seen them showing any legitimate bias for Xbox. .5 for a multiplatform game is not this. I think it's worth looking at them with a critical eye knowing about the funding but to act like they don't matter or have no credit is incredibly absurd.

famousmortimer said:
It is absurd.

I'm interested to see if there is another site, anywhere, that says there's no difference in visuals side by side.
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You have discredited yourself for me.

tfur said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88400543&postcount=661

No thread was created. Shinobi was asleep. :D

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That's it? LOTS of assumptions are being made if that was all there was to the exchange. Gies deletes Tweets daily. Means little.

Edit: Shit this just posted due to the site being unavailable. This was meant to be posted pages back.
 
BroBuzz said:
Can someone enlighten me as to what the big deal is here? My current understanding is that, the Xbox One version has a steady frametrate, but is 720p. And the PS4 version is 1080p, but has framedrops. Polygon thinks that Framerate is more important than resolution, so they give the Xbox One version a 7/10 and the PS4 version a 6.5/10.

Is there something I'm missing here? Because this alone doesn't seem all that controversial to me
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yeah. I'm getting a ps4 and passing on the xbone for the foreseeable future but I feel the same. if what they're saying about the frame rate is legit, I'd take 720p and a stable 60fps over 1080 and unstable frame rate. I'm skipping COD this year though. sounds like an unoptimized mess.
 
If someone hasn't already, a gif of Polygon telling gamers to use their imagination to reconcile resolution differences should be made.
 
LittleJohnny said:
Have you guys considered the possibility that the Xbone version could have more AA applied? I mean it's possible with the extra legroom given from going all the way down to 720p. BF4 devs chose to go down to 900p for Xbone version to keep things equal, so going down to 720p would result in even more legroom, no?

I would wait for a DF head to head before calling anyone a shill based on this. We don't know what kind of AA or the amount used for either version.
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BF4 is 720p on Xbone and 900p on PS4...

But I agree about waiting on DF analysis before going off the rails.
 
Easy solution: Issue a patch.

Render to a 900p framebuffer if the user has the dash set at 1080p and render to a 720p framebuffer if the user has the dash set at 720p.

Problem solved and PS4 version will surely be found superior.
 
TheKayle said:
yes seem that it will be 800p
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To just say it is 800p is misleading, while technically correct. It is what would be called on a Blu-ray movie 1080p 2.40:1 aspect ratio. Yes, it has 800 horizontal lines, but what you're calling 800p has more pixels than the 900p of Ryse.

So yeah, it's incredibly misleading to call it 800p.
 
TheKayle said:
sure i understand what u mean so

you telling me that games that arent natively 1080p on ps4 wil not be upscaled?
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It is natively 1080p. They simply render black bars along the to and bottom. There is no upscaling occurring.

Battlefield 4, however, at 1600x900 IS upscaled as failing to do so would result in black borders around the entire image.
 
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