GuileBootCamp
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He's mostly been struggle because everything good with him post-AoA has occurred outside of the mainline books, outside of being pretty interesting during Messiah Complex.
Polygon: Yes, a new Marvel vs. Capcom game is in development. (X-Men gone, MCU focus)
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He's mostly been struggle because everything good with him post-AoA has occurred outside of the mainline books, outside of being pretty interesting during Messiah Complex.
Stone Ocean
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Marvel 3 is basically TVC2 lol
TRUE ORDER
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If there's indeed no X-Men in the base roster, then Marvel did make a dick move when discussing the characters with Capcom. I'm still hoping for the best though (at least the inclusion of Wolverine or Magneto for example)
Well, we'll know in a few days
Doctrine Dark
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Yeah, that's a good point.
The idea itself is interesting. One of the things that made me salty back when MVC1 first came out was the inability to use Colossus and Jubilee. I kept hoping you'd be able to unlock them by beating the game, but notta. Looking at it in retrospect, the idea of non-playable assists was actually a pretty cool idea. I just wonder how it'd be accepted in todays Marvel.
BronsonLee
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I'll never forget seeing the first screenshot for TvC, it being Ryu's large beam fireball, and straight up saying 'motherfucker, they're making Marvel 3 aren't they?'
Yup, all we can do now is hope for the best.
SFV sold poorly due to it's lack of modes. It's gameplay is really good.
People will get over 2v2 if the gameplay is fun. Hopefully they launch with more modes or if not the price it accordingly.
Vermillion
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What's the issue with 2v2? I feel like if anything, it could make balancing easier.
Stone Ocean
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You mean those fans that incessantly bitched at the start of Vanilla 3 because it was supposedly braindead easy?
Already Torn
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Nah, 2v2 MvC games aren't more balanced
Jawmuncher
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The only reason I feel 2v2 might happen is because the launch roster is going to be smaller than even Vanilla MVC3
MvC1 says otherwise.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Well I haven't done a roster list yet so I'm gonna make one and I can copy and paste it when ever I need it. This will be my dream roster with the bold with the characters who I think have a solid chance of being in it.
Marvel
1) Spiderman
2) Venom
3) Green Goblin
3) Wolverine
4) Rogue
5) Magneto
6) Doctor Doom
7) Deadpool
8) Taskmaster
9) DareDevil
10) Iron Man
11) Captain America
12) Hulk
13) Squirrel Girl
14) Punisher
15) Hawkeye
16) Gambit
17) Sentinel
18) Cyclops
19) Phoenix
20) Apocolpse
21) Scarlet Witch
22) Nova
23) Mystique
24) Red Skull
25) Captain Marvel
Capcom
1) Ryu
2) Chun Li
3) M. Bison
4) Claire Redfeild (REmake2 ver) (Any RE main we haven't had yet with MvC2 Jill like moveset) (Hunk would also be cool with a MvC2 Jill moveset but Claire is my fav so)
5) Chris or Leon (Chris MvC3 moveset)
6) Wesker
7) Nemesis (or power type character like Tyrant)
8) Mega Man X (Classic Alt)
9) Sigma (As much as I love Wily, Sigma would be a better fit and the games need more villions)
10) Strider
11) Captain Commando
12) Morrigan
13) Regina ( Dino Crisis)
14) Samonuske
15) Gene (God hand)
16) Phoenix Wright (with real Edgeworth alt)
17) Viewtiful Joe
18) Arthur
19) Dante
20) Vergil
21) Haggar
22) Dante Masamune
23) Frank West
24) Rathalos (or Monster Hunter)
25) Amaterasu
Marvel
1) Spiderman
2) Venom
3) Green Goblin
3) Wolverine
4) Rogue
5) Magneto
6) Doctor Doom
7) Deadpool
8) Taskmaster
9) DareDevil
10) Iron Man
11) Captain America
12) Hulk
13) Squirrel Girl
14) Punisher
15) Hawkeye
16) Gambit
17) Sentinel
18) Cyclops
19) Phoenix
20) Apocolpse
21) Scarlet Witch
22) Nova
23) Mystique
24) Red Skull
25) Captain Marvel
Capcom
1) Ryu
2) Chun Li
3) M. Bison
4) Claire Redfeild (REmake2 ver) (Any RE main we haven't had yet with MvC2 Jill like moveset) (Hunk would also be cool with a MvC2 Jill moveset but Claire is my fav so)
5) Chris or Leon (Chris MvC3 moveset)
6) Wesker
7) Nemesis (or power type character like Tyrant)
8) Mega Man X (Classic Alt)
9) Sigma (As much as I love Wily, Sigma would be a better fit and the games need more villions)
10) Strider
11) Captain Commando
12) Morrigan
13) Regina ( Dino Crisis)
14) Samonuske
15) Gene (God hand)
16) Phoenix Wright (with real Edgeworth alt)
17) Viewtiful Joe
18) Arthur
19) Dante
20) Vergil
21) Haggar
22) Dante Masamune
23) Frank West
24) Rathalos (or Monster Hunter)
25) Amaterasu
Beat me to it.
And TvC was also a fine-ass game, so I wouldn't be so perturbed by the idea of 2v2 being a thing again,
shaowebb
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A lot of folks talking in here probably never even played much TVC. Game is fucking phenomenal. 2v2 is legit fun. Heard the same bitchin on MVC3 when anything different was announced for roster or systems and now after 7 years all they want is more of what they are currently more familiar with again which is now Marvel 3.
Sit back, see what they got to offer, and take the game for what it is when its announced and stop demanding it be some other title. Marvel 4 will be Marvel 4 just like how Marvel 3 was its own thing and TVC was its own and CvS was its own etc and so forth.
To be fair though, I'd want the Skullgirls Ratio system to accomodate fans of both 2v2 and 3v3 team building.
Sit back, see what they got to offer, and take the game for what it is when its announced and stop demanding it be some other title. Marvel 4 will be Marvel 4 just like how Marvel 3 was its own thing and TVC was its own and CvS was its own etc and so forth.
To be fair though, I'd want the Skullgirls Ratio system to accomodate fans of both 2v2 and 3v3 team building.
SneakersSO
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As long as they are using the slot as a dump for previously playable characters, I think its fine. There are a ton of characters that are kinda one-note & would make great assists spread across both the Marvel & Capcom pantheon. Not every character is going to make a fully playable character.
TRUE ORDER
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The thing that I can't understand is why they are being such a dick with all these iconics characters. I mean, X-Men are getting some books next year (Gold/Blue team, Weapon X, Generation X, Cable and so on) so they keep making stories and new things for them.
I don't understand their logic that much.
CrimsonSquall
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3v3 so comebacks feel better
AWizardDidIt
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I think it'd be neat if the game had either a 2v2 + assist or 3v3 mode and you could toggle between them. Let the community choose which mode gets picked up for competitive play and the other one becomes a fun side mode if nothing else. Call one mode "Modern" and the other "Legacy" or something like that.
But TvC is better than MvC3
Already Torn
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But this wastes potentially good movesets, ruins the possibility of good assists from playable characters, ruins the possibility of stuff like happy birthdays, and will make the fans of those characters complain even more than if the character was just excluded.
So why
I can't already see the "Capcom betrayed us" posts if there's a MvC that's 2v2 and has no Wolverine.
Some have argued that they don't mind catering to existing fans, but they don't want to make new fans. Also keep in mind that if the ban ends up impacting MvC4, it was likely because the license was regained while the ban was in full swing (hence why I'm hoping for a renegotiation to occur for DLC if the worst-case scenario happens for the base roster). If Capcom manages to dodge the bullet, then they must have better negotiators than I gave them credit for.
ShockingAlberto
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ShockingAlberto
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Look, I am not saying this isn't a good point, but
Essentially you're saying I get to watch the Marvel community eat itself alive like the Smash community does and that sounds amazing.
Stone Ocean
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Damn straight
BronsonLee
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TvC would've been a better game if it didn't have the unfortunate tumor of anime glued onto it
Well, also so people only have to learn a minimum of 2 characters instead of 3 to play.
You probably haven't even played it. TvC is legit
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ShockingAlberto
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Yeah but unfortunately capcom had to put their characters in or the title wouldn't make sense.
shaowebb
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AWizardDidIt
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The logic is it's better to invest resources in characters that returns across the most mediums than invest resources in characters that only return on a few. Marvel gets more returns from properties that they have full rights to (movies, comics, tv shows, merch, etc) than from those they only have partial rights to. It's not just them being dicks, it's them being a business (which goes hand in hand with being dickish).
We still don't know for sure that no Xmen are in btw. That was an initial rumor that was walked back. I think there will be fewer Xmen characters but likely at least a few will return. My bets would be on Magneto and then some incarnation of wolverine (either modern X-23 Wolvie or Old Man Logan).
Seven Force
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Yeah. Mega-Crash could've been balanced a bit better, though. Anyone that builds meter quickly (read: Zero) could abuse the hell out of it.
that is a fact.. MvC3 was a mess.. even high level play.. I remember watching the Pro's and I was like .. really? this it is..
Troubled Bat
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The return of Mega Crash
Professor Beef
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everything i've heard says the game is 2v2
trust me, i used to play marvel
trust me, i used to play marvel
ShockingAlberto
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Remember how bad the MvC3 lobby was? There wasn't even spectating at the beginning.
Hot Coldman
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Phoenix is more anime than the entire Tatsunoko roster
Dreams-Visions
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BronsonLee
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Yeah but you were terrible at it
Happened with DmC so it wouldn't be new to Capcom.
What did he mean by this?
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Marvel would get better fighting games if the dying carcasses of Capcom characters weren't hitched to it
Technically yes, but no one wants their request to be relegated to that role in-game.
Could you imagine if Mega-Man only made it as an assist?
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