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Polytron Hacked?

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Nothing that can be proven, and all the allegations that she did it for positive press turned out to be bullshit so...

You tell me.

The guy posted a preponderance of evidence about the cheating, including him logging into his facebook and showing chat logs. If all else is bullshit, that much is true, don't know why you're defending that part.
 

Petrae

Member
So regardless of which side you come down on with this insanity, be it on the side of minding you own business and not accepting disproved accusations, or on the side of behaving like a child over imagined misdeeds, I think it's fair to say the wider gaming community is poorer for all of this. It's not Zoe's fault, or anyone in the industry itself, but a section of the gaming community yet again has demonstrated how vile some of us can be.

We all end up looking pathetic.

Then we end up generalized, like this:

Devin Faraci
‏@devincf
The latest Zoe Quinn stuff and the Darren Wilson GoFundMe reveals gamers and racists are neck and neck for worst people alive title.

I guess it only takes a few jerks to make us all out to be total dillholes.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
You think he faked those ridiculously long print-screened Facebook chats?

Anything that can be actually linked to having an affair with a person.

Weren't the allegations just people connecting the dots and baselessly jumping to conclusions? I don't see how that being a dumb overreaction discredits the cheating part. I was under the impression that he provided proof

I haven't seen any, but even then, no. Look at all the press and harassment she's getting. You think it's ok to expose a person to this shitstorm just because she cheated? Just break off from them. It's healthier to everyone all around.

The guy posted a preponderance of evidence about the cheating, including him logging into his facebook and showing chat logs. If all else is bullshit, that much is true, don't know why you're defending that part.

PM me those logs. Not sure if I want to continue that whole thing in this thread.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
that specific comment was posted several days ago before this even happend

And he has been putting up with peoples' comments several days before this even happened. Not saying the comment is justified, but that's the reason for it.
 
Nothing that can be proven

You tell me.

She admitted it in facebook chatlogs (after being pressed and repeatedly lying) that were screenshotted. What more proof is there to be had?

That is the one thing that shouldn't be in doubt here. You can say it's no one's business but you can't deny that it even happened.
 

Karkador

Banned
So regardless of which side you come down on with this insanity, be it on the side of minding you own business and not accepting disproved accusations, or on the side of behaving like a child over imagined misdeeds, I think it's fair to say the wider gaming community is poorer for all of this. It's not Zoe's fault, or anyone in the industry itself, but a section of the gaming community yet again has demonstrated how vile some of us can be.

We all end up looking pathetic.

Pretty much this.
 
Anything that can be actually linked to having an affair with a person.



I haven't seen any, but even then, no. Look at all the press and harassment she's getting. You think it's ok to expose a person to this shitstorm just because she cheated? Just break off from them. It's healthier to everyone all around.


Honestly, yes. Exposing cheaters is not something I view as wrong and it'll be a cold day in hell when I feel bad for them. Cheating is just the worst.
 

Goddard

Member
Absolutely. Nobody is helped by this situation. It's supremely depressing how easily a few assholes can ruin it things for everybody.

Pretty much this. As soon as it was confirmed that the info leak is legitimate, any semblance of accomplishment, progress, or in general trying to make a point, was thrown right out the window.
 
It may sound wrong but I honestly have zero sympathy for cheaters

Well, the thought that something wrong can be excused by something else that was wrong, is pretty much what's wrong with social media and internet communities.

And people who rallies an internet mob for personal issues and relationship dramas suffers from a severe case of stupidity, and should be quarantined, because it's contagious.
 

Karkador

Banned
She admitted it in facebook chatlogs (after being pressed and repeatedly lying) that were screenshotted. What more proof is there to be had?

That is the one thing that shouldn't be in doubt here. You can say it's no one's business but you can't deny that it even happened.

More so than just "it's no one's business", the pressing questions are 'who gives a fuck' and "what does this have to do with videogames"

Honestly, yes. Exposing cheaters is not something I view as wrong and it'll be a cold day in hell when I feel bad for them. Cheating is just the worst.

Have you ever been cheated on?
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
She admitted it in facebook chatlogs (after being pressed and repeatedly lying) that were screenshotted. What more proof is there to be had?

That is the one thing that shouldn't be in doubt here. You can say it's no one's business but you can't deny that it even happened.

PM me those logs then. I'm willing to concede that there's a possibility she cheated with some evidence I've missed (because god knows that this saga is bloated as hell) but you know what, I still don't think it's ok to reveal anyone's personal information, or to expose them to the kind of shitstorm it produced. Also don't really wish to continue it in this thread.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
getting off twitter and ignoring it isnt an option? sounds like he has an addiction to it

That works both ways. We could all ignore his building comment too rather than tangentially bringing it up in discussion on a different site. But some of us discuss it anyways just like he reads and replies to tweets anyways. It is what it is.
 

Liamario

Banned
It's funny how certain members of this forum were taking the piss out of him for months. I wonder are these the same people who are now saying that people's treatment of him is disgusting.
 

Nephrahim

Member
I think people should avoid commenting on the Zoe thing in this thread. Even if you fall on one side or another of the issue, This is about Phil Fish's hacked account, and I feel like talking about Zoe is just going to things heated and then this thread will probably be locked or something.
 
PM me those logs then. I'm willing to concede that there's a possibility she cheated with some evidence I've missed (because god knows that this saga is bloated as hell) but you know what, I still don't think it's ok to reveal anyone's personal information, or to expose them to the kind of shitstorm it produced. Also don't really wish to continue it in this thread.

More importantly it has nothing todo with Phil Fish, sounds like he is in the firing line because he made 1 or 2 comments about the situation.

People have just wanted any reason to attack him.
 
More so than just "it's no one's business", the pressing questions are 'who gives a fuck' and "what does this have to do with videogames"



Have you ever been cheated on?

Unfortunately. Lucky for me it wasn't some long ongoing relationship but it sucks, to say the least. It's probably why I have such a harsh view of cheaters in general
 

Some Nobody

Junior Member
It's funny how certain members of this forum were taking the piss out of him for months. I wonder are these the same people who are now saying that people's treatment of him is disgusting.

If you'd read even part of the thread, you'd know the answer is no. Or, well, depends on the person. Case in point: Phil Fish is kind of a dick, but he doesn't deserve this. Nobody does. Someone else posted a wonderful analogy comparing what I'd like to happen to people--this being terrible and the thing I'd like being a car splashing water on them.
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
I need some clarification here - /v/'s the same group of people who sent those cool meme cards to the likes of Kojima, Kamiya, and Iwata, right? For their birthdays and a Get Well in Iwata's case?
 
It's funny how certain members of this forum were taking the piss out of him for months. I wonder are these the same people who are now saying that people's treatment of him is disgusting.

There's a pretty big delineation between "I find this guy to be an insufferable ass" to "He deserves to have his life and business ruined".
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
It's funny how certain members of this forum were taking the piss out of him for months. I wonder are these the same people who are now saying that people's treatment of him is disgusting.

Calling someone a dick =/= his life should be shattered in front of his eyes.
 

Some Nobody

Junior Member
So, y'know...I tried to put this behind me because I just didn't like any of it. And now it's kind of exploded in my face again. I'm not sure why, but it did. Do we think it's done now, or is there more idiocy to come?
 

ZServ

Member
I love you GAF. You guys have so much restraint. I was anticipating a lot more bans from this thread.

Or the mods are ninjas. Whichever.

This is all so mindboggling. I can't believe this has gotten so out of hand. Where is the body count for careers gonna end up after the dust settles? We're at what, 7+ at least right now?
 

x3sphere

Member
Terrible news, but Fish must have been incredibly lax on security. Someone said his SVN was public facing? Yikes. Getting hacked was inevitable for him unfortunately.

Should be a wake up call to anyone that doesn't have two-factor auth on things like email to start using it immediately.
 
Honestly, yes. Exposing cheaters is not something I view as wrong and it'll be a cold day in hell when I feel bad for them. Cheating is just the worst.
Some folks make mistakes that hurt peoples feelings. I see it more as a mistake, people can learn from those. I refuse to believe that if someone cheats once, they're just going to keep doing it.

Exposing cheaters is a weird thing to do. That's really none of our business.
 
How the hell are we still debating the Quinn thing in here?

Yeah, when Zoe got doxxed, the topic was off-limits. What's changed?

Anyway, I'm glad to see some rational heads in this topic not jumping to conclusions. This just makes /v/ look bad when they were trying to do something good (out of spite).
 

Nephrahim

Member
I love you GAF. You guys have so much restraint. I was anticipating a lot more bans from this thread.

Or the mods are ninjas. Whichever.

This is all so mindboggling. I can't believe this has gotten so out of hand. Where is the body count for careers gonna end up after the dust settles? We're at what, 7+ at least right now?

Are we? Maybe I haven't been paying attention enough, who else got screwed over?

I mean, Zoe and others have gotten dirt on them, but I think they'll be fine in the long run.
 

Qassim

Member
It's funny how certain members of this forum were taking the piss out of him for months. I wonder are these the same people who are now saying that people's treatment of him is disgusting.

Do you really struggle to distinguish the two? I think he acts like a total arse online, no better than the people he claims make him hate video games. But I don't think that means someone should have something like this happen to them - or anything really, they're just stupid tweets.
 

SigSig

Member
I still do not understand the joy of destroying a person.
What happened here wasn't your typical internet shitposting, but instead people (on gaf, too!) trying (and succeeding?) in destroying a person.

Are these people getting high of this? Kicking a person when he's already down?
Every single person involved is an absolutely disgusting fuck up and should be fucking ashamed.
 
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