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Pope compares sexual abuse to "satanic Mass", says will meet victims
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sandalphon
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This Pope is Best Pope
wsoxfan1214
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Read the article more closely.
He's saying that a priest who abuses a child is like a priest who betrays God.
A religious pediphile turns to the church to fight his desires and then learns how trusted priests are (were) alone with children. Eventually succumbs to temptation. I don't think most of them don the collar just to molest kids.
Are we reading the same story here?
TimeEffect
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I didnt get that from what he said at all...sarcasm?
He said 'like a satanic mass' Like.
Similes, how do they work?
EDIT; beaten. And several times over it seems.
Pollux
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Do some reading before posting next time.
He's comparing the sexual abuse of an innocent child to a priest partaking in a Satanic mass how are they even comparable? Because one is an offence to their god, human laws and the worst this you can do to a child and one is a pretend mass that up until the 60's didn't even exist as is mostly done to mock their mass? Really? Fuck their excuses.
Ether_Snake
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Probably because children are more vulnerable, and because priesthood is pretty much guaranteed to make people detached from reality in various ways. It's a bit of a mentally torturous idea to tell someone he must lead people to the creator of the universe and never have sex. So it's not surprising that priests would turn out this way. Plus, some of them have probably been abused themselves when young.
The whole notion of priesthood is kind of silly, it doesn't turn people into exemplar figures. Maybe back in the days when people had nothing to do but toil the land and go to sleep the idea of not toiling the land but going to sleep and telling people to stay strong made you exemplar, but nowadays a person can actually try to contribute to his environment and to society rather than repeat theology.
I think you have it backwards. Its not that not being allowed to have sex made them into pedophiles, its that the men in question were already pedophiles and the priesthood gave them an automatic position of authority and trust over so many children.
Because they are both acts against God in his eyes? I don't know if you're reading too much into the remarks or aren't reading enough into them...
EdibleKnife
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It's not an excuse. It's a derision of the behavior. He acknowledges it as an abominable human act as much as it is an affront to the God they worship. It's simple. There's no excusing or belittling going on.
Just put the fedora down and walk away. This is not a fight you think it is.
shira
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Nice Frank taking names and kicking ass
I really think the main reason is that these kinds of predators gravitate to jobs that give them trusted positions with kids. There has been an ugly history of sexual abuse by scout troop leaders and hockey coaches in Canada for the same reason. The way the catholic church covered it up though...
Come on, the priesthood isn't turning people into pedophiles, pedophiles are choosing to become priests.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Pollux
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You're trying too hard.
Furthermore, he is also saying that he is going to clean house of such filth and if you're guilty of diddling kids, your position in the church will not save you. I'm not sure what more you could want. It took far, far too long to get to this point, true. But we are here now, so lets not go shitting over the first guy in goddess knows how many years to actually do something about it.
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How can you make such a statement as if it was fact? People don't just decide and manage to become priest after looking up where they could abuse kids.
A lot of priests were pretty much raised by priests or in environments run by priests. It is known that people who have been sexually abused when young often end up doing the same when older, etc.
I've known 20+ priests, none were raised by priests. Anecdotal but if we are throwing around uncitated facts then my anecdotes count too.
Good.
But it's about fucking time that the church roll back clerical celibacy, it was mostly done to limit individual power and prevent dynasties, but I think it's doing more harm than good these days.
Not that there's any chance of that happening, but hopefully the church can start examine its views on sex.
But it's about fucking time that the church roll back clerical celibacy, it was mostly done to limit individual power and prevent dynasties, but I think it's doing more harm than good these days.
Not that there's any chance of that happening, but hopefully the church can start examine its views on sex.
Im sure we can find you something else to be annoyed about, cos this isnt working, maybe talk about Mother Theresa for a while would help?
EdibleKnife
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Actually not really. The cycle of childhood sexual abuse is not as clear cut.
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse#Causal_factors
Would that make me a worse person than a pedophile priest?
block tower
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yeah i'm sure the pope cares..
Future Foundation
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He's saying both are grevious offenses in the eyes of God + the church. That's how they're comparable. Try harder.
On the plus side, I've gotten to use "grevious" in a sentence.
Reading is crucial.
Trick question. There is nothing worse than a pedophile priest.
Carnby
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How in the world did this article offend you?
Carnby
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Speaking of liars, that man's entire biography is fabricated.
This guy before getting ascended to hugable pope had a less than stellar track record dealing with sexual abuse in his native country of Argentina.
https://news.vice.com/article/pope-francis-accused-of-shielding-priests-who-sexually-abused-children
that's nice.
https://news.vice.com/article/pope-francis-accused-of-shielding-priests-who-sexually-abused-children
that's nice.
SolsticeZero
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Give it up lol, it's just sad now.
You're not going to convince anyone that a Pope actually taking a tough stance on sexual abuse within the Church is a bad thing.
The stupidity of this post is daunting.
I don't think anything good this pope does will be good enough for you.
CaptainSlow
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EchoChamber
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you are acting very euphoric dude that euphoria is gonna kill you.
umop_3pisdn
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I think there's a tendency to ally yourself with a higher power or sense of moral certitude to numb your own real sense of moral panic. It's a way of being 'good' by a kind of proxy or imitation without confronting the root of the problem, probably because it's something too big to confront that the only coping strategy left is to rely on a higher power. And of course that doesn't work.
CountAntonius
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This guy makes me want to believe in God.
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