i'm mad that the most interesting pop star in the world has been mia since 2009
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i'm mad that the most interesting pop star in the world has been mia since 2009
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People clinging to the past need to let go, Gags ain't got time to appease people stuck on LoveGame and Bad Romance, she needs to move along and evolve. If you haven't been feeling it since 2009 then that probably means she's not for you, but you can still enjoy those 5-6 songs she made back in the day
The New Classic came out in 2014 though?
You mean the only 5-6 songs that will pass the test of time? Then sure.
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Natalia Kills is terrible
evolve? rofl, her output past TFM has basically been trash. the sooner the munsters admit this to themselves the sooner the healing process can begin.
Garrett Hawke
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And what does she has to do with the fact Gaga best output was from the first era? Queen always on your mind I see.
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The sooner you realize that people enjoy music that isn't in line with your own definition of quality (and given your Rebel Heart review, you should have already done realized it) the sooner you can heal yourself and accept the change <3
Also you loved the most quintessentially "new Gaga" tracks on Born This Way so don't you front, miss highway unicorn
Invites, non-stop
Bleached out (fuck it), blue yachts
You join, my club
Luke loves (love it), your stuff
Oh dear God, do you get me now, do you get me now, oh, you do?
Wow you're awesome
Oh dear God, I'm a killer now, I'm a killer now (killer now, killer now, killer now)
You said you wanna bang
Well
Fuck you! Sucker!
You said you wanna bang
Well
Fuck you! Sucker!
Shit on Dr. Luke some more Charli
Bleached out (fuck it), blue yachts
You join, my club
Luke loves (love it), your stuff
Oh dear God, do you get me now, do you get me now, oh, you do?
Wow you're awesome
Oh dear God, I'm a killer now, I'm a killer now (killer now, killer now, killer now)
You said you wanna bang
Well
Fuck you! Sucker!
You said you wanna bang
Well
Fuck you! Sucker!
Shit on Dr. Luke some more Charli
LOL you all need to move on tbfh because Lady Gaga will NEVER top how flawless she was during The Fame (and The Fame Monster) era
And she can't go back to the crazy antics after she ruined that gimmick with how over the top she was during the Artpop era. I am totally here for the new and restrained Lady Gaga...
... except Jazzga, she can burn in a fire if I had to endure her and Tony again.
And she can't go back to the crazy antics after she ruined that gimmick with how over the top she was during the Artpop era. I am totally here for the new and restrained Lady Gaga...
... except Jazzga, she can burn in a fire if I had to endure her and Tony again.
LOL you all need to move on tbfh because Lady Gaga will NEVER top how flawless she was during The Fame (and The Fame Monster) era
And she can't go back to the crazy antics after she ruined that gimmick with how over the top she was during the Artpop era. I am totally here for the new and restrained Lady Gaga...
... except Jazzga, she can burn in a fire if I had to endure her and Tony again.
The only era I liked from Gaga was The Fame and Fame Monster. The Fame Monster showed a bit of the monster she would become for the BTW era and the mess for Artpop but still tolerable and fashion on point. I'd be here for a down to earth (visuals) Gaga if she doesnt get as pretentious or pandering as the later albums.
Best Gaga song is still Again Again. And it has been since 2008, BEFORE TFM. There I said it.
gurl you can't blame those people when she is back to working with R E D O N E. GaGa is stuck in the past just as much as her fans.
Garrett Hawke
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not even going to wade into this one tbh
I'm too tired for y'all not recognising art + beauty
I'm too tired for y'all not recognising art + beauty
YAAAAAAAS! That's the thing, until The Fame Monster everything was on point even if it was starting to get messy. BTW was like the floodgates of "real Gaga" opened and we all were covered in that slime...
I mean, basically this is true. Gaga could release a true artistic slay (aka what BTW wishes it was) and she would still piss off a lot of people clamouring for her to return to ha basic pop roots. Or she could work with re-re-re-redon-e-e-e and get laughed at for trying the same old tricks. Regardless I think people would be the happiest if she stuck with her original aesthetic, even if it's the opposite of what I want from her.
The Fame / The Fame Monster = Perfection
Born This Way = The level of pandering threw me off.
Artpop = Main issue was talking about the album as something revolutionary when it was an average EDM/Dance Pop album. Also the entire promo/fashion before the album release was a mess.
Garrett Hawke
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I like that you didn't just say "they're shit" tbh. Slé
I personally believe that TFM is excellent & BTW is decent. I'm indifferent about TF, but ARTPOP was where I disapproved. At this point, as long as her music doesn't sound as half-assed as it was on her previous album, i'm fine with any "gimmick" that'll work for her, if that means having to go back to Red-one. It doesn't have to be an exact replicate of TF/TFM, but her next work needs to be sure of not having shitty hooks & less filler.
They are not shit but the later albums simply forgot the carelessness and playfulness while still feeling smart to a degree The Fame/TFM had. She comes up a try hard on the later albums from the music to the way she was portraying herself when starting her career she was simply an normal girl with a weird fashion style. The different times I saw Gaga use more natural looks I've said she should try that for one of the eras and just do a relaxed chill album.
I like the aesthetic used during the Erotica era, I don't think they could be replicated in this day and age without looking over the top but it was an incredible era for Madonna tbh
Well, since Gaga is working with RedOne I think that even she thinks that TFM era was the last time she made good music, kii
I can't care less for BTW and Artpop, except the 3 songs of that album that I still use
EDIT: I just want good music paired with interesting aesthetics and visuals from her
Exactly. It's not copy pasting the same music but the same quality and consistency.
Jessica Lange being a queen as per.
Garrett Hawke
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"bussykween .tumblr .com"
ah, someone who watches AHS
ah, someone who watches AHS
that's all anyone wants from her. whether the munsters care to admit it or not there's been a decline in quality from gaga. you only need to look at the metascores and lack of public interest to see that.
what i want is 'TFM part II' in terms of the QUALITY of the music and the QUALITY of the artistry. get out of here with the 'you don't want her to evolve!!!' nonsense. some of my favourite artists have evolved massively over their careers. i don't want anybody stuck in a time vortex circa their best album.
but what gaga has done is not evolve, it was to release an album of so-so music and pair it with been-there-done-that trimmings, and then she followed it up with the worst, most artless kind of jazz standards album you could care to imagine. that's not evolution.
I think we have a Doppelgänger in our midst
*waits for clueless people to clap*
The fact that Natalia Kills was considered a dark skinned Lady Gaga not so long ago, kii
Garrett Hawke
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Metacritic is a JOKE. Seriously. They let a review in for BTW that was literally a 0 - the reviewer said that the album was "self aware" or something and couldn't be constrained to a mortal scale. MESS.
Regardless of that, as a platform, it is a useless, arbitrary number that is losing relevance. Thankfully, gaming companies are less and less relying on it as a metric for bonuses/success.
I mean, look at House of Cards S3 - it has a good metacritic score despite the overwhelming feeling towards it from fans being "meh" as fuck.
IDG what she was trying to imply with this? I haven't actually watched the interview yet.
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Metacritic is a JOKE. Seriously. They let a review in for BTW that was literally a 0 - the reviewer said that the album was "self aware" or something and couldn't be constrained to a mortal scale. MESS.
Regardless of that, as a platform, it is a useless, arbitrary number that is losing relevance. Thankfully, gaming companies are less and less relying on it as a metric for bonuses/success.
I mean, look at House of Cards S3 - it has a good metacritic score despite the overwhelming feeling towards it from fans being "meh" as fuck.
darling there is more change that Putin appears on the next series of drag race than godel dropping ha fixation with metacritic
I mean the superior melodies in BTW and the complexity and uniqueness of production was definitely an evolution for her, but we can continue to pretend that the few rancid tracks, and sloppy music videos / performances, defined the entire album. ARTPOP on the other hand was like 3 steps back.
Garrett Hawke
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well those are two things I would be here for tbh
I'd be surprised if the people who post metacritic scores really do take it seriously tbh, it just seems like an easy tool to annoy people who do.
Damn, what did Beyonce personally do to you? lol
he doesn't like black ppl or something
I think BTW definitely had its issues but I can definitely buy into it being an evolution, or at least, it is not such an obvious step backwards in quality
also kiiii @ the fuming over metacritic. it's funny how only the people whose faves struggle on the site hate it ��
Well there was that time when he was stanning the runaway slave master. It all makes sense now.
Much of the hate towards BTW stems from the things that don't have to do with the music. Lbr a lot of gays jumped on Gaga simply because she was poised to be the next Madonna - she pretty much marketed herself as such. As soon as she became messy and not the concise, calculated manufactured slay that she was, it was over for many people. The album was just a bit too early in her career really.
Garrett Hawke
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Lmao, Gaga's overall score is only 5 lower than Beyoncé. But Gaga is shit, Beyoncé slays etc cus metacritic said so?
Gaga's highest score comes from TFM, at 78 with a scant 14 reviews. Really, people shouldn't use the scores if they have less than 20 reviews, it means nothing really. Bey managed to hold onto 85 with almost 35 reviews. No other major popstar has done that.
Garrett Hawke
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Beyonce also has 20 grammies, making her more acclaimed than any other current pop star. Because the Grammy awards said so~
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