PopGaf OT-X | Confirmed: Mariah Carey is the Queen of PopGAF

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AyaisMUsikWhore said:
I think you have irrational hate tbh. I get if you may not like her, obviously.
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I appreciate the write-up Aya, I read the whole thing :) I will admit it may border on irrational, but she just rubs me the wrong way and has always seemed very fake to me. I'm not gonna go looking for links of all the stories I've read about her, and the stuff about her vile criminal husband (if she really is leaving him, that will actually improve her for me), I'm just gonna drop the Bey thing for now, don't wanna poke the Hornet's nest any further lol. I'm under no delusions, I've already made peace with the fact that Bey is gonna win this POPGAF contest that's going on right now lol ;)

Touchdown said:
Apparently Grimes is a Mariah Carey stan. Let me give ha music another listen.

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I just discovered Grimes a few days ago! I was searching for iamamiwhoami's videos on YouTube, and Grimes popped up in the "similar suggestions" or whatever on the side, I guess they have a similar style of music (though Grimes is more dance-y) I decided to click cuz I know some POPGAFFER's have mentioned her before, and well she actually kinda slays! :)

I don't know all her work of course and have no clue how many albums she has, but the two songs I've checked out so far both rock:

Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY

Oblivion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH68PJIQLE

If the rest of her stuff is just as good, I may need to stan a bit

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I will say that I admire enigmatic for having the balls to go after Beyonce and her establishment, it reminds me of the movie 300 or that fight scene in Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers. :)

That said, Beyonce still is in a different class than every other pop star, and that includes Madonna. It's a similar reason to why Beyonce has been around almost a third the time Madonna has, and yet has garnered more unanimous love and support across the masses than Madonna, who with each era managed to find a new demographic to alienate permanently. Chock it up to good PR or playing it "safe", but all that will matter years down the line when Beyonce will be considered the most iconic female pop star of all time and Madonna will no longer be.
 
godelsmetric said:
i take it back it's not just the beyonce haters that are delusional
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You can deny it if it brings you solace, sis. But I'm looking at the trends and what I'm seeing is that Beyonce is constantly peaking. To be doing that this late in her career still is pretty telling, and it shows that she has the capacity to keep that up. She's never had a career nosedive, and the extent of any kind of career "stall" was the release of 4, but even then she was doing things like, you know, singing at one of the most iconic presidential inaugurations in history. No one's had a career consistency like Beyonce, and I'd be hard-pressed to imagine that after all this time she would find a way to plateau in popularity. I do think she'll be the biggest name in music when we look back at this in 20 years' time.
 
look i'm not saying that her place among the pop music pantheon isn't all-but-assured, but really the difference between her and madonna wrt their impact on pop music is enormous.
 
by this time in madonna's career she had released the immaculate collection

so really

really

she had also released her fifth studio album, erotica, and a book to go along with it. the book was called sex. it was kind of a big deal back then.
 
it's like the beach boys and the beatles

you could really like the beach boys, and perhaps even (wrongly) think that pet sounds is better than [insert better beatles album here]

but at the end of the day, one of them is still only the beach boys
 
BTW, reminder: Nominations round of the tournament closes tonight. We might need to go into a tie-breaker situation so make sure to come by the thread around 8pm EST/5pm PT in case we need your emergency votes. :P

So far 6 nominees are tied for slots 17 and 18, so assuming it stays this way the rest of the day I will present all six to the thread, and you just PM me your two prefererred entrants. It'll be a lightning round so it might just last for 30-60 minutes depending on voter turnout. lol

ALSO, starting now I can no longer accept vote adjustments, so hopefully everyone's content with who they chose!
 
This American time voter bias. I have sleep and a social life to attent to, aint nobody got time to be sitting around waiting for this thread
 
I'd say the only thing Madonna has over anyone else is her penchant for reinvention. No other artist can really change personas at the drop of a hat.
Her entire discography is still utter shit, almost entirely due to her lack of any sort of singing skill. How anyone could bear to listen to the audible form of white rice is beyond me.
 
YoungBlade said:
Did anyone vote for Charli XCX
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I voted for ha.

TMZ says that Iggy has a sextape:
Iggy Azalea allegedly recorded a sex tape that could make her millions upon millions -- according to a Hollywood porn boss, but Iggy tells TMZ she can't cash in on the vid ... because it's NOT her!

Vivid honcho Steven Hirsch tells us he has seen some footage which he says appears to be Iggy with an ex-boyfriend -- and from the little he's seen ... he's sure it could easily top Kim Kardashian's legendary sex tape in sales.

Hirsch says he's already reached out to the 24-year-old "Booty" rapper to open negotiations on what could be a multi-million dollar deal -- but the problem is Iggy's camp says Hirsch's eyes are playing tricks on him. They tell us the I-G-G-Y is not the chick on vid doing the dirty ... and they're ready to sue over the alleged footage.

Of course, without Iggy signing off on it ... the vid can't be legally released. It also means she won't collect years and years of mailbox money ... like Ray J still does.
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rude said:
I'd say the only thing Madonna has over anyone else is her penchant for reinvention. No other artist can really change personas at the drop of a hat.
Her entire discography is still utter shit, almost entirely due to her lack of any sort of singing skill. How anyone could bear to listen to the audible form of white rice is beyond me.
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But what about Janet?
 
Madonna's vocals on Ray of Light aren't offensive at all. They're after she had vocal lessons but before she started overenunciating, nice and loose like her stans.
 
Am I allowed to post my list of #PopDivaGOATS here as well?

Luckily we aren't including males. Cause my avvy is GAF Hop and Pop Gaf champ.
 
overcast said:
Am I allowed to post my list of #PopDivaGOATS here as well?

Luckily we aren't including males. Cause my avvy is GAF Hop and Pop Gaf champ.
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only after you listen to FIRO's I Will Never Let You Down and come to terms that the rhat
has no place in your life or list

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I hope Rita Ora's US debut is successful. I saw her interview at The Breakfast Club and she seems pretty cool and down to earth.

Her self titled was hot trash though
 
Courage said:
I hope Rita Ora's US debut is successful. I saw her interview at The Breakfast Club and she seems pretty cool and down to earth.

Her self titled was hot trash though
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Huh? That hot trash came out here too.
Party (How We Do) tried iT on the radio for a month or two

edit: eaux the alber didn't land but her singles did. Could have sworn I saw it on spotify tho
 
cory64 said:
Huh? That hot trash came out here too.
Party (How We Do) tried iT on the radio for a month or two
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Lord have mercy that song drove me to the brink
The improvement from that and RIP to IWNLYD is really quite remarkable
 
Okay, list. Couple indie flops. Only one "mega star", cause I feel I don't listen to the rest as far as full albums despite thinking some of their singles are good tracks.

1) St. Vincent
2) Jessie Ware
3) Joanna Newsom
4) Bjork
5) Fionna Apple
5) La Roux
6) Charli XCX
7) Beyonce

In general I've warmed up to pop acts a lot in the past few years, especially compared to HS years. Top 2 are specifically favorite artists, made threads for both of them. Would have included Purity Ring but that's a duet.

Also, I will admit to lurking here for fun fairly frequently.
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overcast said:
Okay, list. Couple indie flops. Only one "mega star", cause I feel I don't listen to the rest as far as full albums despite thinking some of their singles are good tracks.

1) St. Vincent
2) Jessie Ware
3) Joanna Newsom
4) Bjork
5) Fionna Apple
5) La Roux
6) Charli XCX
7) Beyonce

In general I've warmed up to pop acts a lot in the past few years, especially compared to HS years. Top 2 are specifically favorite artists, made threads for both of them. Would have included Purity Ring but that's a duet.

Also, I will admit to lurking here for fun fairly frequently.
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wait at this list, slé a bit

also i agree that yeezy is the kween k of pop
 
Great list.

I didn't include Fionna on my list, sadly. But I know Arte would be proud of the Fionna love right now!

EDIT: Touchdown's Mariah post on GAF-Hop has me screaming oaiqhjousdgvhcikjdshase
 
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